Epoc Digest Sunday, May 26 2002 Volume 01 : Number 6

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In today's Epoc Digest 20 messages :

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- HSCSD

- Tom Tom Citymaps & Mac

- Unable to search addressbook;PC card HDD

- Big Psion/PDA meet

- Re: Email woes

- RE: Unable to search addressbook

- Re: GPRS email problems

- Re: Backing up problem

- Re: Flashback / JBStopGo

- Psion Series 5, New phone, Unable to search,

- Other PDA's, BCC field,

- Re: Major problem, Flashy phones

- EPOC DIGEST

- Hebread programs and hide alarms

- classic vs 5mx and revo

- RepEvMail works with the new EPOC DIGEST

- siemens s45 and gprs on revo

- Disk not present

- Epoc Digest, Lotus Notes synching problems

- Re: Unable to search addressbook

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002

From: Kevin Collins

Subject: HSCSD

Hi folks,

To Gary Y. Reyes:

Gary, I use HSCSD successfully with both 5mx and Revo, and though this is with a 6210, the settings may be worth trying with your 8310?

MODEM

Name: Nokia (HSCSD)

Speed: 115200

Connect Via: Infrared

Fax Class: Auto

INITIALISATION

Init (reset) string: AT+CHSN=4,0,0,0 (or alternatively 6,0,0,0 is faster but less stable)

Data init string: AT+CBST=0,0,1

ADVANCED

Flow control: Xon/xoff

Terminal detect: not ticked

Carrier detect: not ticked

Modem: mobile

Best of luck!

. .

Regards,

Kevin [Cork, Ireland]

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002

From: "Bruce A.Knox"

Subject: Tom Tom Citymaps & Mac

Thanks for your contact, Itamar, and for your effort.

If it is any use, I have a message which would interest, or be a warning to, Mac users. It is that TomTom CityMaps cannot be installed on the Psion (5mx or 7) from a Macintosh computer. The use of Windows and PsiWin is absolutely necessary. I was dismayed to find this - confirmed in no uncertain terms by TomTom - and have been obliged to resort to a friend's computer. A great pity, as CityMaps is a great program. Route Planner is great also, and is, by contrast, simple to download to a Mac and install on the Psion.

Best wishes ---------- Bruce Knox

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002

From: Darryl Kempster

Subject: Unable to search addressbook;PC card HDD

"Paul Harrison" wrote :-

I have my addressbook on my 5mx as a Data file. The Data file is kept on C: and is currently 400 entries long.

Major problem: I cannot search for anything. Any "Find" term I enter comes up with "Not Found", even though I may have several instances of that search term.

Paul

Obvious things first - have you set "Tools" "Find By label" to include the categories you wish to search?

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Currently Toshiba 2GB PCMCIA HDD are really cheap (£80). I tested one in my series 7 but couldn't get it to register as drive E at all. Anyone have any explanation as it's not meant to require drivers. Does it require too much power from the motherboard? I am hoping to upgrade shortly to a Netbook - would this be able to handle this memory device? Or is the microdrive the only large scale memory option Psion has?

Darryl

Back from a round the world trip and very grateful to Itamar for keeping the Digest going.

It's been a long lonely 4 months without my Psion fix.

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002

From: slitchfield

(Steve Litchfield)

Subject: Big Psion/PDA meet

Over £1500 of free Psion and Palm prizes being given away at the big PDA User Group meeting in London, on Friday, May 31st!

Add in unlimited free drinks for the first hour or so and the chance to network with other PDA users and developers and you might want to make this event a date in your Date Book/Agenda...

Sponsors of the event (so far) are RMR Software, Zenobyte, iambic, Finger Technology and PMN, but we'd like still more companies to get involved/publicised - can /your/ company help?

There are a huge number of Palm, Psion and PDA prizes, all of which must be given away, so make sure you bring your business card!

See the meeting page at http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/meetings.htm

for venue information (near Paddington Station) and for

full door prize details - their total value exceeds £1500!

Incidentally, if /you/ have any unwanted units, accessories

or software, feel free to bring them along and donate them

to the prize table so that at least someone else can benefit

from it...

Like previous gatherings in the London venue, the event is free

and open to people of all PDA-persuasions, although the

majority are expected to own Palm OS or Psion/Symbian handhelds/communicators. There will be a central prize-giving, surrounded by good chat, expert advice and an opportunity

to meet dealers and developers. And, of course, to make some

new friends and contacts.

A short (10 mins max) keynote speech will be given by someone prominent in the industry, details on the web site nearer the time.

Again, for full details on the event, please see

http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/meetings.htm

Steve Litchfield

for 3-Lib, the UKPUG and Palmtop/PalmUser magazines

http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002

From: "Sergio"

Subject: Re: Email woes

Hi Psion Family!

Glad to see You again, even if I was a little late in subscribing, so my answer only comes right now...

On Thu, 16 May 2002 Christopher Marwood wrote:

A while back I posted about my Email woes. An increasing number of messages are coming into 5mx Email showing no sender, no subject, somtimes even no date. The effect of these varies - sometimes it renders the mailbox inaccessible until the offending message is removed by other means, sometimes the message just can't be downloaded - highlighting and trying to move it gives a message "No message highlighted". Todd Andrews from the Digest list kindly volunteered to help but we have not reached any conclusions yet. Has anyone else seen anything similar? Sending a message to myself from the Popcorn mail reader always seems to produce this effect - can anyone else confirm that (Are you there, Sergio?)?

I've just tried to send a mail from my "home" account to my "office" account, sending it via PC & Popcorn and receiving it on my MC218 & Ericsson T39, and all seems fine, sender, subject, date etc. are correctly displayed...

Hope this can help...

Ciao for now

Sergio Alisi

Milano

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002

From: "Chris Cooper"

Subject: RE: Unable to search addressbook

Paul,

look at the 'Find By Label' dialogue on the Tools menu (or press Ctrl+F). All the labels in which you wish to search need to be ticked (by tapping on them).

Date: Wed, 22 May 2002

From: "Paul Harrison"

Subject: Unable to search addressbook

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I have my addressbook on my 5mx as a Data file.

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Major problem: I cannot search for anything. Any "Find" term I enter comes up with "Not Found", even though I may have several instances of that search term.

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002

From: "Sergio"

Subject: Re: GPRS email problems

Hi again Psion Family!

On Wed, 22 May 2002 Crawford Patterson wrote:

I recently managed to get GPRS working on my MC218/T39 having used setup procedures described on the digest. However, for some bizarre reason I can retrieve email but not send it. The computer just returns the message 'Unknown error'. I have tried different email accounts and get the same message. Has anyone experienced this?

The same happened to me when I upgraded the firmware of my T39, but I couldn't succeed in connecting at all...

Try to install the Mobile Connectivity Update 2.0 on the MC218 or 5mx (175 Kb):

www.psion-it.com/downloads/ER5/serie5mx/mobileconnectivityupdate20.zip

It seems that with the old versions of the T39 firmware this update wasn't necessary, but with the new ones you need it to work with GPRS.

Ciao for now

Sergio

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002

From: Gunter Aigmueller

Subject: Re: Backing up problem

On Thu, 23 May 2002, Nishy wrote:

<< I am trying to back up my Revo Plus using PsiWin 2.3 and I keep getting this error irrespective of which PC I try to back up on :

"PsiWin Problem Report

There was an application problem because the file has been opened on the Psion. Do you wish to try again?"

All files are reported as closed on my Psion. I had Chadis (battery checker) removed in case it was unwittingly holding up things and I can't find anything open anywhere.

Can anyone shed any light? >>

Hi Nishy,

I experienced the same problem last Autumn using PsiWin and my Ericsson MC218. After clicking on "OK" I could start the backup process again, and everything went fine. I posted my problem to the German Psion list (Psion-DE at YahooGroups) but nobody seemed to experience the same error message.

The downside of the problem followed this April when the screen cable of the MC218 broke and I had to send it in for repair. I did a complete backup (getting the error message again), and when I got the MC218 back and started the complete restore, PsiWin reported a duration time of 2,5 hours and about 26 MB of data to be restored to the internal disk!

I finally found out that due to the PsiWin error the archive process had failed, and a lot of old (and already deleted) files were still in the backup folder on my PC. This wasn't so much of a problem with word or sheet files, but the message suite was pretty unusable (18 MB of data which wouldn't fit on the internal disk). The conclusion was: start the message suite from scratch (losing some unread mails) and manually sort out all the word and sheet files.

I finally removed PsiWin and installed EPOCConnect (which came on the CD with my MC218). At the moment everything is working fine - and the programm even recognizes my girlfriend's Revo.

Hope this helps a bit. I'm sorry that I have no solution to the source of the problem.

Regards,

Gunter Aigmueller

[Linz, Austria - 24-May-2002, 10:32 am CEST]

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002

From: Julie Wills

Subject: Re: Flashback / JBStopGo

>From: Itamar Engelsman >Subject: Flashback, Connection problem with PC, >

>Answer to: Julie Wills

>Re. Flashback - The disadvantage of this program as opposed to JB5Stopgo >is that Flashback will always open a preset number of programs, while >JB5Stopgo will close the files open at the moment of activating the >program and open the same programs it closed. Accordingly, each time you >use JB5Stopgo it will close and open different programs. I use it for >backing up. Or am I mistaken and do they both do the same ?

Flashback can be set to close and reopen programs, but I did get some problems using it this way. (In particular it had problems closing / reopening Mentor. I tried emailing both authors to resolve this, but with no success.) But, as I said, I stopped using the automatic timed options, as I got fed up with being prompted when it wasn't convenient to back

up. I now use Startup to stop and start programs before / after using Flashback, and just have Flashback to close (but not reopen) programs, just to be SURE everything's closed. (Besides, I don't want to reopen programs straight away, because I want to copy files from the CF to the PC first.

I didn't know that JBStopGo has a backup function though.

Julie

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Psion Series 5, New phone, Unable to search,

Answer to: David Richardson

Re. Psion Series 5 - A difficult question, as you will surely know that Psion has stopped making and developing PDA's. If you are convinced you want to continue to use an EPOC machine for the foreseeable future, I would advise you to buy a 5MX while they are still available. If you don't need the pocket size, a S7 or Netbook might be even better (but more expensive), the Netbook not (yet) discontinued. The Revo is more pocketable, but has no expansion possibilities and many people complain about battery problems with the internal rechargeable battery pack. If EPOC is not that important to you, look at other makes as well.

Answer to: Gary Y. Reyes

Re. New phone - Thanks. I think I'll wait for the new Nokia 8910. It looks like a good phone, I like it to be bigger, it has a cover of the keys, and is bluetooth. This means you can have it in your briefcase in the car and still use it with the car unit. I saw someone with the Motorola V70, it is too small for me and too unclear to read.

Answer to: Paul Harrison

Re. Unable to search addressbook - Under Tools and Find by label did you specify which labels to search in ?

Answer to: Philip S. Adkins Potter

Re. Future of digest - Ok, some figures for your information:

- adding a subscriber : 5 seconds (a macro)

- unsubscribe someone : 20 seconds {by hand)

- adding message to the digest : 25 seconds (macro) **

- preparing digest for sending : less than 5 minutes

- sending of digest : abt. 1-1/2 minutes

** = can be improved to 10 to 15 seconds by improving the macro.

The main time has gone to preparing a list of some 1,000 names to send an email. I have now sent abt. 2/3 of that list in two messages, last one hopefully over the week-end. I've sent a message to Palmtop Magazine and hope they will publish it. In the heading of the digest I added the total number of subscribers, currently just over 200.

As to the future, as said before let's wait a month or so. My personal feeling is that James gave us the ups5digest for years for free and merrits our loyalty while sorting matters out. If by the end of June the ups5digest has not returned we will discuss the future. Trust you will all agree with this.

Answer to: D.N.Wijewardane

Re. Backing up problem - Did you try a soft reset and try again ?

Bye,

Itamar

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Other PDA's, BCC field,

Answer to: Francois Boller

Re. Other PDA's - I will not censor any messages and you are free to write. However, in general this is - like the ups5 digest - a digest about EPOC machines and personally I would not like it to change into a general PDA digest, losing it's caracter of Psion orientated contents to the vast majority of other PDA's. I am pretty sure other digests already exist for that subject ?

To All

Re. BCC field - a subscriber informed me that he received the last digest with all the email addresses showing in the BCC field. Several tests between him, a third person and myself has not shown how this is possible. Did anyone else receive the digest with all addresses showing ? If so, please inform me with the software used to download the email.

Bye,

Itamar

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002

From: Jason Garbutt

Subject: Re: Major problem, Flashy phones

On Wed, 22 May 2002 "Paul Harrison" wrote:

"This is really puzzling me....Major problem: I cannot search for anything. Any "Find" term I enter comes up with "Not Found", even though I may have several instances of that search term.

Any ideas???"

Paul,

You've probably checked this already but just in case . . .

in the Tools menu, Find by label - you need to tick all the fields you want to search in. It may be that none of them are ticked.

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To Itamar,

Re: Flashy phones

The problem with flash new phones is that they often have glitches and you generally have to work out the issues for yourself with regards to Psion connectivity . . . but I've never let that put me off ;-)

In general Motorola phones seem to work well but aren't the most user friendly. I had a Timeport for quite a while (it was the first Triband phone with a modem) which didn't let me down, it was just a bit fiddly to use, but worked quite well the Psion.

Currently I have an Ericsson T39 which, is similar to the flashier T68 colour screen phone, but has a flip. It is easy to use and works extremely well with my S5. I like flip phones as the keypad is kept covered avoiding accidental phone calls (yes, I know you can lock most keypads but I always forget and nobody makes a phone that does it automatically).

Nokia phones are probably the easiest to use, but I've never used one with a Psion, so can't comment. (However, the Nokia I use for work has a really annoying feature that dials 999 when you lock the keypad!)

Hope the above helps !

Regards,

Jason

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002

From: "Tony Cabot"

Subject: EPOC DIGEST

I too subscribe to a list on Yahoo groups and while it has been generally OK I do subscribe to the digest form which reduces the chance of viruses. Also, a few weeks ago we were informed, not by Yahoo, that our prferences as to receiving email and phone offers had been changed to "Yes" even if we had not originally checked that option off in our preferences. So I make it a habit every month or so to make sure my spam factor is the way I wish it.

By the way, I find it amazing that Itamar can run this list on his 5mx! Thanks Itamar.

Tony Cabot

*****Original Message*****

>Date: Tue, 21 May 2002

>From: Jason Garbutt >Subject: Re:EPOC DIGEST

>Hi Itamar and all digestives,

>I've had a couple of thoughts about the digests future, and I guess it is looking less likely that it will resurface in its previous form.

>There must be options out there to provide a similar service. Yahoo groups is the only one I've personally experienced and I do get a few viruses (not sure if they are connected, but timing suggests they may be).

>Any thoughts ?

>Regards,

>Jason

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002

From: Moshe Nahir

Subject: Hebread programs and hide alarms

To Itamar,

First again thanks for your effors, without which we would not have the Digest. We are all in your debt!!!

I downloaded the Hebread program, but now where can one get texts to use with it? Any ideas?

Another question perhaps someone can help with. I seem to recall that the 5mx allows you to disable all alarms. The other day the alarm on my spare 5mx went off. This could have drained the batteries, but my memory fails me as to how to disable all alarms (I need an upgrade...). Will be grateful for a reminder.

Moshe Nahir

Winnipeg, Canada

Currently in beautiful Barcelona

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:19:51 +0000

From: tobybutler

Subject: classic vs 5mx and revo

Dave

Welcome back to the clan. If you use your psion for anything taxing (like street or routeplanner, opening lots of programs at the same time etc) then you should definately upgrade to the MC218 or 5mx. They are noticeably faster and the extra memory really helps. I was really happy when I upgraded mine. If you don't, you are probably fine with what you have got and maybe a compact flash card (which are amazingly cheap now) if you want to store a lot of files or programs. You can pick up 5mx's cheap, too - someone here will tell you the best price new but you should be able to find one second hand for £100-£120 or so and £200 from Johnlewis.com.

The revo/mako sounds like a real dog to me - terrible battery problems. But if you want something small, go for it. I wouldn't mind one as a companion for the big brother 5mx for occassional use, but I wouldn't rely on it.

Toby

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:41:53 +0000

From: R. Vonau

Subject: RepEvMail works with the new EPOC DIGEST

Hi there,

nice to meet you again after the online break. Thank you, Itamar.

I know, that some people use the RepEvMail application for replying to digest messages.

Now you can use it with this digest, too ! Itamar was so kind and change the format of digest so that REM works properly.

In addition I have a good news for NetBook and S7 users:

RepEvMail is now coloured. Thanks to Egon Widfor his painting job.

The new release 3.19 of RepEvMail will be ready for downloading from my homepage in a few days.

Best Regards

Rolf

Munich

http://home.arcor.de/rhvonau/index.htm

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 17:44:35 +0000

From: ettgua

Subject: siemens s45 and gprs on revo

Hi all digestives

tks Itaman to keeep alive the digest

any oof you can help me to set up the gprs connection for s45 and revo plus? regards Ettore

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Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 09:10:47 +0000

From: "Jon Welford"

Subject: Disk not present

Hi,

Good to be back amongst you all. My CF went funny last night flashing the screen and not allowing anything to work on either S7 or 218. The card reader on the pc took it so I reluctantly formatted it and now the psions won't recognise it (it's OK in the pc). I looked at Martin Guthrie's page and I think what I did should have been Ok . Can anyone help?

Jon Welford

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Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:10:22 +0000

From: "Paul Johnston"

Subject: Epoc Digest, Lotus Notes synching problems

Dear Psioneers (Itamar in particular)

One potential problem with using a system such as Yahoo! groups is the fear that our email addresses gets out and that spam becomes a problem. Any web based system can potentially have this problem, therefore I think we stick to a mail based system, even if we have to pay for it. May I suggest the following options:

A) We find a reliable online service, and split the bill between a few of the major contributors. I know I, as a University student, would not mind contributing R100 to R200 a year towards this digest - that's nothing compared to what I spend on magazines, and this is much more useful. That amounts to about 2% of my yearly pocket money and part time incomes - surely a few others would not mind contributing there 2% or even 1% ? (I'm sure most earn what I do in a year in a month!) I do not know the exact cost, but I'm sure it is not outrageous, and we could possibly get it cheaper by using a service based in a country that has been hit hard by the combo of the strong dollar/pound - eg South Africa.

B) In my opinion an even better option is the following - a php based 'digest system' that we could host on a server, potentially in combination with a remailer system. I could potentially host such a system on my personal server (good bandwidth and php capable) till Jan next year for free, and then either it could be tacked onto another server (perhaps a business or personal web server of a digestee, or some Psion related company that could use the exposure?). This way the system is totally portable from server to server (assuming it is PHP based). The only thing people would have to do if we ever moved would be to send to a different address - which would not be a problem, as most would notice if the digest started arriving from a different address. And if we used a remailer - then any future move would be totally transparent to the user (unless the remailer company goes under).

Just my ten C's worth. Don't know if such software exists written in PHP, I know it is possible.

Secondly - my friend has a prob. Synching his revo with Lotus Notes, he gets double entries from notes to the revo, and entries on the revo do not get created on notes - what could be the problem? I think he's using a combination of PsiWin and InSync pro.

Thanks in advance

Paul J

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Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 08:00:14 +0000

From: Jim Watson-Gove

Subject: Re: Unable to search addressbook

Paul Harrison

<<Major problem: I cannot search for anything. Any "Find" term I enter comes up with "Not Found", even though I may have several instances of that search term.>>

Have you tried:

Menu/Tools/Find by Label/ then tick off all fields you wish recognized in the search. The fewer ticked off the faster the search.

I have all fields ticked off and find the search function extremely fast despite all being selected.

I use Data for all my databases and use Contacts only for email addresses. This allows me to have many separate data files and allows for easy backward compatibility from my 5mx and Makos to my classic 5.

jim - oakland

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