Epoc Digest Tuesday, May 28 2002 Volume 01 : Number 7
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In today's Epoc Digest 21 messages:
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- Production of 5mx has started again!
- GPRS mobiles
- REvo & Nokia 8310 on HSCSD
- Revo Backup Problem
- Visible BCC, netBook ROM
- Fwd: Backing up problem, JB5StopGo, Hebread,
- DigHandler
- Re: Opera & security / GPRS problem
- Internet connection
- Tom Tom maps
- It' not your fault that the BCC field is showing!
- BCC field and sending to large no. of recipients
- Toshiba 2GB PCMCIA HDD
- BCC / Value of Differing Psion models
- disk not present /Pibeam
- Re: EPOC DIGEST
- Backup trouble (Nishy); removing CF cards
- Turn off alarms
- Re: BCC field,
- Siemens ME45
- Re: EPOC DIGEST v. 006
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Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 21:36:14 +0000
From: "Thomas F. VAN DER ZIJDEN"
Subject: Production of 5mx has started again!
Hello Digest,
The Dutch web site www.symbian.info (of the Benelux Symbian User Society) has reported that it has received a rumour from 'reliable sources' that the 5mx is back into production.
The 5mx is outsourced to an eastern company, but that has already been the case before the first production stop. The reason for the relaunch is that the demand for the 5mx is still stable, while the stock is being exhausted quicker than expected. It is not quite clear which part of Psion will retake responsibility for the device, but as I see it it would be logical that Psion Teklogix takes over the 5mx, as it is vastly popular for business use.
It is also not clear how vendors can obtain new stock and -as a result- how and if consumers can buy the device.
The rumour has not been officially confirmed yet, but I myself already find this great news. Finally, Psion has seen that the 5mx nowadays still is a great device for people who want to be productive, who need the keyboard and who do not need all modern 'multimedia'.
By the way: I had a Netpad in my hand last Saturday. It really is a 5mx with a colour screen and without the keyboard, though it has a much sturdier protection around it! I really like the colour, but I loathe the lack of a keyboard! It is utterly unusable without the keyboard. The onscreen keyboard is always on top of other things, making those other things invisible! What good is Word if you do not have a keyboard?
Yours truly,
Thomas VAN DER ZIJDEN
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Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 22:02:32 +0000
From: Christopher Marwood
Subject: GPRS mobiles
Hello all,
Shortly after I sent off my long-winded posting on connecting a 5mx to a Motorola 280 via script a couple of days ago, I found the excellent files on www.mikemcc.net detailing GPRS phone settings which Mike pointed out in today's digest. A brilliant resource - thanks, Mike.
Best wishes, Chris
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 00:51:56 +0000
From: "Gary Y Reyes"
Subject: REvo & Nokia 8310 on HSCSD
>Date: Fri, 24 May 2002=20
>From: Kevin Collins >Subject: HSCSD
>
>Hi folks,
>
>To Gary Y. Reyes:
>
>Gary, I use HSCSD successfully with both 5mx and Revo, and though this is = >with a 6210, the settings may be worth trying with your 8310?=20
>
>. .
>Regards,
>Kevin [Cork, Ireland]
Kevin,
Thanks a lot for the information. I will try this out. It should work on the 8310 also.
One question: would you know how to check either on the phone or on the Revo what the connected baud rate is? Any way to verify if you are connected on HSCSD?
Thanks,
Gary
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www.edsamail.com
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 03:36:31 +0000
From: "Gary Y Reyes"
Subject: Revo Backup Problem
>Date: Fri, 24 May 2002=20
>From: Gunter Aigmueller >Subject: Re: Backing up problem
>
>
>On Thu, 23 May 2002, Nishy wrote:
>
><< I am trying to back up my Revo Plus using PsiWin 2.3 and I keep getting = >this error irrespective of which PC I try to back up on :
>"PsiWin Problem Report
>There was an application problem because the file has been opened on the = >Psion. Do you wish to try again?"
>All files are reported as closed on my Psion. I had Chadis (battery = >checker) removed in case it was unwittingly holding up things and I can't = >find anything open anywhere.
>
>Can anyone shed any light? >>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Gunter Aigmueller
Gunter,
Coincidence that just this morning, I got the same when trying to backup my Revo Plus.
What I did was to go to the file the Revo claiming was open -- in this case my Agenda -- then actually opened the file then closed it. Then clicked on the PC to continue with the backup.
Seemed to solve the problem. After my backup, I hard-reset my Revo because of some battery problems then restored all the files. Does not look like I lost anything.
Hope this helps.
Gary
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 06:32:55 +0000
From: Trygve Henriksen
Subject: Visible BCC, netBook ROM
Greetings!
I too receive the digests with the list of subscribers plainly visible in the BCC field. (All the messages so far...)
I'm using the EPOC Email program v2.00 (518) on my netBook to read the digest. (Still running the FUBAR 158 version)
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The FUBAR ROM...
A Psion employee actually contacted me about certain issues in this ROM!
(Because of a post I did on news. Comp.Sys.Psion something)
Yes, really!
They're working VERY HARD to try and fix the bugs that crept into the release, and hope to have a new one ready soon...
Incidentally, he also told me that the German version was OK...
(Or maybe the German users have given up and not reported any bugs...)
:-)
Trygve
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 07:21:11 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: Fwd: Backing up problem, JB5StopGo, Hebread,
Answer to: Nishy
Re. Backing up problem - Is it possible that the name of the file that gives the problem exists also on your PC, either as a file or a folder ? I seem to vaguely remember that this might give problems with backing up.
Answer to: Julie Wills
Re. JB5StopGo - No, it does not have a "back up function". The program will close any programs open at the moment of activating the program and switch on the link. Activating it again will switch off the link and open again all the programs it closed. Start-up will only open a list of pre-programmed programs, but not any that was open at that moment. The author is John Boyce, and he helped me very well when I found out his program did not close and open Merlin properly, and now it does. He is still around and will help anyone with problems, even though he himself now uses mainly a Palm ... (how sad).
Answer to: Moshe Nahir
Re. Hebread - Look in the help file and the following websites are mentioned :
http://www.palmsiddur.com; http://www.pilotyid.com; http://www.penticon.com; http://www.palmshiur.com
These will probably lead you to others too, but all the files I mentioned you can find on these websites. Look for the DOC files and .pdb files. Don't register yet the files, as the registered ones will not work yet on the program.
Re. Alarms - In the World file you can switch the sound off, as well as in the control panel under sound.
Answer to: Ettore
Re. GPRS - Look on the website of Mike McConnell at "http:www.mikemcc.net" where you will find several files describing all the settings.
Bye,
Itamar Engelsman
London, United Kingdom
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 09:38:14 +0000
From: Jan R Gustafsson
Subject: DigHandler
Hi!
I really appreciate Rolf V's DigHandler sw. Obviously it can't be used with the temporary Digest Itamar so kindly is providing us with. Can this be corrected or is it an "overkill" task in the present situation?
Cheers,
Jan G
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 09:38:22 +0000
From: Jan R Gustafsson
Subject: Re: Opera & security / GPRS problem
Firstly, thanks Itamar for keeping the Digest going!
Peter Keene wrote:
> Have you also found that you cannot enable TLS and SSL in Opera >Trgve?
I also found that I could enable them, but when I got back to the security dialog, the checkmarks were gone again....
I think I remember mailing the Opera support on this and receiving the answer that this was a misprogramming and that the two protocols in fact were active despite the fact that the tics were gone.
Maybe someone else can verify this my hunch? (Have uninstalled Opera, found it too buggish, memoryhungry and not competent enough to handle my Internet bank or office webmail interfaces.Neither can of course Web or Internet as it is called on my MC218.)
Crawford Patterson wrote
>Subject: GPRS email problems
>I recently managed to get GPRS working on my MC218/T39 having >used setup procedures described on the digest. However, for some >bizarre reason I can retrieve email but not send it. The computer just >returns the message 'Unknown error'. I have tried different email >accounts and get the same message. Has anyone experienced this?
Have exactly the same configuration, have upgraded the phone software several times and it works very well. Maybe too obvoius: Have you checked your phone so that you have the correct IP addresses in your Data account?
Cheers,
Jan G
-- This e-mail was sent from a Psion palmtop computer via IR and a GPRS-connected Ericsson T39 mobile phone --
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 09:41:04 +0000
From: Alexei
Subject: Internet connection
Hi All,
I have upgraded the OS on my NetBook.
And noticed the following problem:
In E-mail application when use "Open mailbox", it will not offer a connection dialog, but instead trying to connect to mailbox, and in 2 seconds give an error message "Unable to locate remote mailbox".
In "Control Panel > Internet" I set-up Internet connection and "Show connection dialog" is ticked.
Accessories are:
Nokia6210, enable Data&Fax.
Probable some one had the same problem - any help would be greatly appreciated.
B Rgds,
Alex.
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 10:14:04 +0000
From: tobybutler
Subject: Tom Tom maps
I'd be interested to hear from Bruce or anyone else who uses Tom Tom how it compares to streetplanner - are the maps any clearer/is it easier to use? also does it have many cities from each European country? I only have Streetplanner GB at the moment. If anyone would like to swap Tom Tom or streetplanner Europe for some other software (windows or psion) I would be interested in hearing from you.
Toby
PS I get a list of everyone's email address too
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 10:19:11 +0000
From: Philip S. Adkins Potter
Subject: It' not your fault that the BCC field is showing!
Itamar,
I don't know why this is happening but it is probably a Freeserve fault. Since it affects some and not others and it doesn't result in me getting double mails I think it must be Freeserve! They seem to have a good reputation so I imagine they want to be told about this. I would if it were my service and I was in customer care.
You are doing everything right if even a percentage of subscribers are not receiving the BCC field addresses. You could only be causing this yourself if it affected most if not all of us and that is patently untrue. Fortunately this is a very sensible group so the distribution of addresses won't be abused.
A friend got my new (old) Mac working so as soon as I understand it and get a low table for the keyboard and everything I'll try that but I don't think it'll change anything.
I have two other eMail accounts so if you want to try sending the digest to them you're welcome. Please tell me so I'll look every day.
They are and .
I still think it's down to Freeserve though.
Good luck,
Phil.
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 13:18:23 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: BCC field and sending to large no. of recipients
To: All
Abt. 10 people reported back to me they received the digest with all the recipients showing in the BCC field, one person actually reported that the first 5 he received like that but no. 6 was clean. I sent the digest to myself and received it clean on my Psion. Some could see all the addresses in the BCC field, others notin the field bt only in the "view" and "options" of Outlook.
I had another problem yesterday. I tried to send the digest out to 230 email addresses and it failed on me both with Demon Internet and with Freeserve. When however I divided the message in two, one to 200 and one to 30 addresses, both went out. All the people that could see the BCC fields were from the message to the 200 addresses.
It would appear this means that there is a bug in the Psion email software where above a certain number of blind copies the blind copies function does not work to all, but only to some, and that one cannot send an email to more than 200 recipients.
I created a new file with all the email addresses without the names and wilI check if that makes a difference first. If not, I will send the next digest after that out via my PC and Outlook. With the next two digests only I request you kindly again that if you can see the other recipients to send me an email (but not if you can't see them, please).
If there is anyone that has a problem with his address shown to the other subscribers, let me know and I'll try and avoid your address from being shown.
Finally, if anyone can shed a light on this or has any knowledge what might cause it or how to solve it, please enlighten us.
Bye,
Itamar
PS: Please send to the digest email address ONLY messages to appear in the digest and (un)subbscribe messages, and all other messages I think I deleted one or two messages about this subject that I thought were for me privately, but might have been for the digest, for which my sincere excuses. It is not my intention to censor any messages.
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 18:35:59 +0000
From: "J.B. Gouldsmith"
Subject: Toshiba 2GB PCMCIA HDD
Dear Fellow Digesters,
I suspect Darryl's problem of running his new 2GB PCMCIA HDD on his S7 is attributable to insufficient power. I have an IBM Microdrive which works perfectly in the CF card slot of my S7 but when used with an adapter in the PCMCIA slot it is not recognised. I the original UPSDigest a year or so ago a contributor said that the same problem did not apply to NetBook. Hope this helps. I hope another digester can prove me wrong so that I can rush out and snap up this bargain PCMCIA HDD!
Thanks again to Itamar for resurrecting this invaluable and very friendly forum.
Psionara
J Brian Gouldsmith
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 18:56:28 +0000
From: "AndyHayes"
Subject: BCC / Value of Differing Psion models
Hi all
Firstly I want to join the rest of you in thanking Itamar for grasping the nettle and running this in the temporary (?) absence of James.
When I look in the message properties of the Epoc Digest I can see all of the BCCs. I am using MS Outlook Express 5.5 at the moment.
The Revo/Mako has had a bit of a slating recently so I thought that now might be the time to tell you what I am using at the moment. I am down to a netBook, MC218, Mako and a Handspring Visor Deluxe.
The netBook is used every day. The Mako is a toy which I use when I want pocketability. The MC218 sits in my safe and is there for the day when the netBook dies or has to be sent away. The Visor is a toy with which I demonstrate the GPS unit that plugs into it's springboard slot.
The important thing to remember with the Mako/Revo is to keep the batteries charged (by whatever routine you decide is best). My MC 218 comes out of the safe about every 8 weeks for a fresh set of batteries.
There is an irony that so many complained about the reflectiveness of the 5/5mx screen. This was put down to the technology needed to provide the lighting to the screen. People liked the scotchlite materials used in the Revo/Mako screen, but I now hear complaints about no backlight on the device.
I believe that these devices have still got a long way to go before they will reach their optimum functionality. Look at what PCs can do these days. It wont be long before handheld PCs can do the same and more, with hopefully less crashes!
Andy Hayes
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 20:53:46 +0000
From: "Jon Welford"
Subject: disk not present /Pibeam
Hi All,
Well the CF is sorted, many thanks to Mike, Martin & Michael. I had formatted it into Fat 32, this is the default XP action. However there is an option for Fat. I thought I had tried it before but it hadn't worked but this time it did. Yippee! I then formatted it with EDU as per Martin Guthrie's page. So now to do a restore.
Next problem does PiBeam work with the S7? I tried to install it twice from the Control panel and I get a blank screen which needs a reset to get the 7 going again. I then removed Pibeam. It is fine with the 218. Should I have an IR update for the 7 (it is build 758).
Cheers Jon Welford
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 00:01:43 +0000
From: "Sanjay Chawla"
Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST
Firstly thanks to Itamar for reviving the digest!
I have finally come upon a MC218 and I will be putting my Series 5 to "rest" as a back up machine only for emergencies. I wanted to know what is the best way to store the machine in terms of the batteries.
I have removed the AA batteries but I kept the backup battery in place. Is there any value in doing this or should I also remove the backup battery? I have backed up all of the information already.
Also if anyone is interested in purchasing a DI27 or DI28 Ericsson modem please contact me off the list.
Sanjay Chawla
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 01:08:49 +0000
From: Christopher Marwood
Subject: Backup trouble (Nishy); removing CF cards
On Thu, 23 May 2002, Nishy wrote:
<< I am trying to back up my Revo Plus using PsiWin 2.3 and I keep getting this error irrespective of which PC I try to back up on :
"PsiWin Problem Report
There was an application problem because the file has been opened on the Psion. Do you wish to try again?" >>
Hi Nishy,
I have struggled with this one, too - very frustrating. I find that restarting the PC and soft resetting the Psion usually clears it. Good luck
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Removing CF disk trouble.
Thanks to everyone who replied on this. I just shifted these three files:
rwap.mdl
recmbmv.rdl
revmbmvw.mdl
from D:\system\recogs to C:\system\recogs
No adverse effects so far, and I can remove my CF card without problems.
Best wishes, Chris
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 08:19:26 +0000
From: "Marcus von Cube"
Subject: Turn off alarms
Moshe:
>Another question perhaps someone can help with. I seem to recall that the 5mx allows you to disable all alarms. The other day the alarm on my spare 5mx went off. This could have drained the batteries, but my memory fails me as to how to disable all alarms (I need an upgrade...). Will be grateful for a reminder.
There are two ways:
- One way is to disable alarm sounds in control panel. This does not
prevent the machine to turn on (my netBook flashes a red LED then).
- The other way is to simply exit Agenda. This way, no new alarms will
be sent to the alarm server.
I just found tho following on the Psion-DE list in Yahoo:
http://www.mypsion.ru/AlarmPlus.php
Its an alarm manger that controls how often an alarm can ring (and
more).
Marcus
http://www.mvcsys.de
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 08:54:43 +0000
From: Jason Garbutt
Subject: Re: BCC field,
On Fri, 24 May 2002 Itamar Engelsman wrote:
>Re. BCC field - a subscriber informed me that he received
>the last digest with all the email addresses showing in the
>BCC field. Several tests between him, a third person and
>myself has not shown how this is possible. Did anyone else
>receive the digest with all addresses showing ? If so,
>please inform me with the software used to download the
>email.
Hi Itamar,
I have also been getting BCC email addresses (not every digest) and I'm not sure how this is possible either, but it is happening. I am using Email version 1.50(177) on an S5 Classic.
Regards,
Jason
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:39:07 +0000
From: Alan Rabbitte
Subject: Siemens ME45
To: Peter GraySubject: IrDA access to a Siemens ME45
> Do you know where I might find how to setup the psion 5 modem settings for IrDA access to a Siemens ME45 ?
I know nothing about the ME45, but when I bought my S25 in 1999, (Was it really that long ago?) I had problems with my internet connection. I could get it to connect but the line would drop under certain conditions. See below my actual posting to the digest on Mon 15/11/1999 (P.S. The link is no longer valid):
Cheers,
Alan Rabbitte - Back "on line" thanks to Itamar :-)
Dublin, Ireland
Well UPS5'ers,
I thought the day would never come. As I have said in the past I wasn't going to give up easily on this one. Thanks to this digest and those who contribute I have finally fixed my problem. The solution? Follow the setup information in this web site:
http://www.maehrlein.rmc.de/Deutsch/Psion/S25/index.html#Modem. It's in German and the English part of his site doesn't have the equivalent info, so I'm afraid you'll just have to translate (not too difficult). There are 2 key parts to what is contained here:
1) Use "AT&F0X3\Q0" as the "Init reset string" under modems-initialisation in control panel. I checked out the meaning of the AT commands and as far as I can make out they mean: AT&F0(= restore to factory settings)X3(=Detect Busy signal)\(=Haven't a clue)Q0(=Status display on). Can any comms gurus explain why these settings allow emails greater than 4K to be sent without the application timing out when they could be happily RECEIVED with the standard ATZ init string?
2) Set the "modem type" to "Fixed Line" in modems-advanced in control panel. This didn't appear to have any effect on my problem, but as far as I know this will allow the S25/MX combination to send and receive faxs - I haven't been that ambitious yet!
If anybody in interested in more info - use the "search" facility in www.deja.com and look for S25 - there is lots of info there. I found the above in comp.sys.psion.comm.
And now I have to thank those who have helped me:
Mike McConnell, Eamonn O Cathain, Philipp Maier, Crawford Patterson, Sebastian Hotte Homann (SHH), Clive Riches, Steve Schokman, John McAleely, Achim Hartig and probably many more. I would also like to thank my parents for having me, Mr Potter for making these wonderful machines ... On a more serious note, this exercise proves the value in a list like this. In simple terms, if everybody contributes to the list, everybody benefits. And when I say contribute, I don't include all the bitching and sniping that so very often takes place. Now if all you flamers will excuse me: YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 18:02:21 +0000
From: John Wetton
Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST v. 006
Hi Everyone,
Great work Itamar, this resource really is worth keeping going :)
A quick question.Does anyone have the HSCSD and GPRS settings for T68 and 5mx?
Thanks.
John
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