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In today's Epoc Digest 15 messages:
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- Various Comments
- Nokia 9290 & Handspring's Treo 270
- Re: Advertising the EPOC Digest
- Re: Extras bar macro
- Revo CD
- EPOC Digest
- Re: Extrabar restored just as liked
- PsiWin and XP; Psion Tech-less Support
- Research, Checking mail in foreign countries, Psiwin, BCC & digest,
- netBook ROM, netPad, Spreading the word.
- Re: EPOC DIGEST
- Re: Extras bar macro
- Netbook
- Mako/Revo Extras settings
- Problems with sending big attachments
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Date: 3 Jun 2002 01:46:06 +0100
From: Keith Giles
Subject: Various Comments
> regards,
> Paul Bishop
Hi Paul, glad you're back on board. If you don't like Southern California, you could always come back to God's Country. :-)
> From: Lothar.Kammann
(Lothar Kammann)
> Subject: PsiWin v2.3 with Windows XP Home + Office XP Pro
> Would anyone of you also have any idea how well the newest v2.3.3 > works with Windows XP and Office XP?
I'm using 2.3.3 with WindowsXP and have absolutely no problems with my 5ive or 5mx. Until my Mako started acting up (I'm waiting for it to return from Repair), I had no problem with it either. I have Office XP. I just tested the MSWord/Word, Excel/Sheet, and Access/Data conversions. They worked fine. You should have no problems with either WindowsXP or OfficeXP.
> From: Dan Siegel
> Subject: Diamond Mako 16meg
> In my quest for a replacement for my 5mx if/whenit dies, i picked up a > Diamond Mako san software, downloaded the manual from Psion for the Revo Plus. > Any advice on finding a copy of the original software CD that came with it?
Why bother with the Mako software when all you need is PsiWin 2.3.3?
You can easily download that from http://www.psion.com/computers/.
You'll need to register, but it's free, and gives you the latest and
best.
> From: Itamar Engelsman
> Subject: Advertising the Epoc Digest
> I suppose that after a full month of absence it is getting rather unlikely
> that the ups5digest will reappear.
I reckon you're right.
Happy Cycling,
Keith
Sunnyvale, CA
Thought For The Day: The chances that a slice of bread will land butter-side-down are directly proportional to the price of the carpet.
My outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-Virus.
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Date: 3 Jun 2002 04:34:47 +0100
From: Brendan
Subject: Nokia 9290 & Handspring's Treo 270
Its great to see the digest ongoing, well done Itmar. My preference is to use the trusty 5mx but thought some of the digestees might be interested in a review of the Nokia 9290 found at new york times website: http:www.nyctimes.com/2002/05/30/technology/circuits/30STAT.html?todaysheadlines
It seems a fair and unbiased review. Interestingly, a GPS attachment is apparently available as an add on.
Best regards to all,
Brendan from Very hotand unnyDubai.
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Date: 3 Jun 2002 08:17:56 +0100
From: "rafe.blandford"
Subject: Re: Advertising the EPOC Digest
Firstly thanks to Itamar for all his hard work, much appreciated! Secondly sorry for not thanking / contributing earlier - I very busy with exams, but thought I'd respond briefly to this message.
>1/ if you know people that might be interested or showed interest in the past, send >them a copy of the digest
>2/ if you have a website which is partially designated to Psion / Epoc, mention the >digest on it
I run the website www.allabouter6.com; it mainly aimed at the next generation of EPOC devices to those discussed here, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to widen the digest to 9210 / 7650 owners? There's currently around 10,000-20,000 visitors a week so it should get quite wide coverage. I can also pass it on to other webmasters of 9210 sites. Do people think that this would be OK?
>3/ Has anyone contact with the major existing websites like Revoworld and others ?
>Lastly, would anyone have the knowledge / interest / time / possibillity to launch a >simple one page website for this digest explaining in short what it is about, have an >old digest as an example on the site and link it up to the major internet search >machines ? I have no idea at all, would any money be involved in that ?
>If you have any other ideas, just launch them. We are just a bunch of EPOC >enthousiast and there is no need for formal approval to help this digest establish >itself.
I can provide some space (and the skills) to create a website. I think it would be good to have archives of the digest on it too. However I'm not sure I'd have the time to do this (perhaps a team to keep a website updated? I'd also be willing to pay for a domain name for the website, which should ensure better search engine coverage. I'd have more time next week too, once my exams are over. I've listened to the debates about what to use with interest. I have and do use Yahoo to run a list of around 500 people - it does work OK, but something more professional and less prone to spam would be welcome.
>I suppose that after a full month of absence it is getting rather unlikely that the >ups5digest will reappear.
Seems likely doesn't it?
Regards
Rafe
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Date: 3 Jun 2002 08:25:09 +0100
From: "Huub Linthorst"
Subject: Re: Extras bar macro
Hi all,
I offer my website for downloading Kit's Extras bar macro. Hi Kit, please send me the macro and I'll upload it to
http://website.leidenuniv.nl/~linthorsthjm/. But please do so quickly because I'll be away for vacation from June 6 till the beginning of July. Huu
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Date: 3 Jun 2002 08:51:29 +0100
From: "Paul Johnston"
Subject: Revo CD
Original Revo CD - I would be willing to mail you a CDR copy of the CD, or to make a copy for myself and email you mine - technicaly it's piracy, but I'd say not because the only way to use it is with a Psion - so unless your revo is stolen, it's morally not wrong... otherwise, buy one off of the Psion website
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
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Date: 3 Jun 2002 09:17:57 +0100
From: "Huub Linthorst"
Subject: EPOC Digest
Hi Itamar, I added an announcement to the Digest and an example of today's Digest to my website.
Huub
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Huub Linthorshttp://website.leidenuniv.nl/~linthorsthjm/
ExAb, CodeSafe, S5mboles, SpellX and more
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Date: 3 Jun 2002 09:54:44 +0100
From: ***
Subject: Re: Extrabar restored just as liked
To Kit Byatt who wrote (> ):
> I like to keep a variety of apps in specific places on > my Extras bar. After a long time thinking about it (and > many increasingly frustrating machine changes and hard
> resets, for various reasons!), I have finally got round > to writing a macro to set up the Extras bar just as I
> like it.
Hi
1- Just make sure your original :
C:\System\Apps\Shell\Shell.ini
is restored OK; and then immediately
2- do perform a soft rest (manual or by Restart)
and... up you nice icons reappear just in place
HTH
Jack
PS would nevertheless like to receive your macro
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Date: 3 Jun 2002 10:40:37 +0100
From: Mike McConnell
Subject: PsiWin and XP; Psion Tech-less Support
To: Lothar Kammann
<<Unfortunately the cover nor the CD show the exact version, meaning the
third digit like v2.3.3. Would anyone know which version this is? >>
This is annoying. I have 2.3 from my 5mx and 2.3.1 from my Revo and both
just say 2.3 As you *must* use 2.3.3 with WinXP, I would suggest you
download it from Psion's website because you don't want to install an
earlier version and then have to uninstall and upgrade, particularly with
XP. I suspect that even the Registry Cleaner is not totally effective with
XP, based on discussion with someone who tried it and found his machine was
still recognised after all trace of a previous installation should have
been removed.
=======================================================
I was talking to someone, who was suffering PsiWin problems, on the phone
this week after he had given up trying to get any sense out of Psion's
£1/min support line. The support "technician" he was speaking to was a
foreign student (presumably earning some additional cash to support his
studies) who said he knew nothing about Psions but had received training in
how to look up a manual quickly. That just about says it all!
--
Regards,
Mike [Dundee, Scotland]
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Mobile Phone & SMS: +44 (0)7947 655778
Mobile Fax: +44 (0)7941 679797
Web: http://www.mikemcc.net
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Date: 3 Jun 2002 15:01:17 +0100
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: Research, Checking mail in foreign countries, Psiwin, BCC & digest,
Answer to: Thomas van der Zijden
Re. Research - I am sure that we shoul not take the 36% in favour of Psion at face value. It does show however that there is still an interest in the 5MX, probably above the level Psion thought it to be.
Re. Checking mail in foreign countries - I regularly check my mailboxes in Europe and even Israel. In Europe I dial into the local numbers of Compuserve and in Israel into a local ISP called zahavnet. I never had problems either.
Answer to: Lothar Kammann
Re. Psiwin - From the year (2000) it is certainly not 2.3.3. As to XP, there were some mixed messages, but most people reported no problems with Psiwin.
To : All
Re. BCC & digest - First of all "thanks for all the thanks". I have to mention here that it was not only me. Nicole as said helped with contacting many of you and Rolf helped tremendously with writing macro's to make life a lot easier handling the digest. Actually, due to a medical emergency in the family the next few digests will be handled by him.
As to the BCC field, I sent no. 9 from my Psion via Compuserve and the BCC field did not show. So it appears that the problem occurs with using the Psion with some ISP's and not others. I rest my case, I have no solution for this happening.
Bye,
Itamar Engelsman
London, United Kingdom
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Date: 3 Jun 2002 22:46:53 +0100
From: Trygve Henriksen
Subject: netBook ROM, netPad, Spreading the word.
Greetings!
Peter Keene wrote:
> For Eamonn re netBook ROM:
> Before resorting to the drastic step of e-mailling you Build 156 (it's about 6
> Meg zipped) let's address your comment that you couldn't restore your data
> - its the first time I've heard someone mention this problem.
I also had problems restoring data...
The restore stopped 5(!) times with a 'connection lost' message...
> You have to be careful when restoring the System folder because Build 158
> has already created some updated files when the ROM is installed.
There's also 'a few' new files in ROM that might happen to be on C: or D:...
Examples are:
Everything related to Opera.
(You REALLY should have uninstalled it before upgrading)
Ethernet drivers if installed.
The \System\java\ directory tree...
\system\data\gsmbsc.rsc
\system\libs\gsmbsc.tsy
There may be others, too...
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Thomas F. van der Zijden wrote:
> The Netpad is therefore a bit of a weird thing. It is a colour 5mx without a
> keyboard. I still think that a colour 5mx *with* a keyboard would also be
> great!
The netPad isn't meant for ordinary consumers.
It's for industrial use. That's why the 'ultra ruggedness' and lack of keyboard...
The idea is that it will replace the workabout hand terminals.
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Itamar Engelsman wrote:
> With the kind help of Nicole we have now exhausted our sources for email
> addresses, that were kindly passed on to me by several of you from old
>digests. All addresses received an email and we no stand at 276
> subscribers.
How far back have you gone in the digests?
the oldest digest in my archive is:
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UPS5 Digest V2 #140
1999-05-04 22:19:07
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And would you belive that YOU are the first on that one?
I don't have all digests since then, but a good portion...
(They're in 'deep storage', Savemail'ed, Zipped and stored on a PC)
I'll try to get a message up on my own site this weekend.
(I've been having a wee bit of a problem with FTPing there the last week)
I'll also see if I can't drop a message into Comp.sys.Psion.Misc
As for creating a single page....
Steve (mr. 3Lib himself) is on this list, and there's not many Psion sites that's more well known...
:-)
Trygve
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Date: 4 Jun 2002 01:00:51 +0100
From: Toby
Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST
Hello psioneers
Thank you to whoever it was who mentioned the PDA meeting in London which
was organised by Steve Lichfield. I went along clutching my Series 5
nervously and met a very friendly bunch of people along with winning a copy
of Tom Tom city maps in the raffle! I got some great advice and ideas I
would really recommend it. I thought I might report back some interesting info
1) apparently a psion case appears on Obi Wan Kenobi's (Ewan Macgregor?)
belt in the recent Star Wars films!
2) the tough palmtec case was tested to its limits by a couple of nutters
who decided to throw it out of a plane with a psion inside. The expected
that the psion would work but were curious as to how the case would stand
up. Amazingly both survived in tact and the psion worked! There is a
website about this somewhere, apparently.
3) I got to see the latest Symbian/Nokia phone which also doubles up as an
organiser and a digital camera. Looked great and apparently it will cost
£400 (maybe half that with a contract.
4) Reconditioned Diamond Mako are going for $90 in the USA from Sparco.com
but the postage is a lot to the UK if you order just one; works out much
better if you order two!
5) I met someone who had glued fuzzy felt on a few of the keys of his revo
so he could 'touch type' without looking at the keyboard using his two
thumbs. He said he had got up to 40 odd words a minute and he types when he
is out jogging...
If I go ahead and get a Mako from the States, could someone tell me how it
works with UK power (ie can I use my series 5 mains cable, or will I need
an adapter?)
chin chin
Toby
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Date: 4 Jun 2002 06:28:06 +0100
From: Lothar.Kammann
(Lothar Kammann)
Subject: Re: Extras bar macro
To Kit Byatt,
I do not like how the extras bar moves all apps. Furthermore you can never tell where to find a new installed app. I would be very interested in such a macro, but could not tell you where to upload it.
Lothar Kammann
Germany
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Date: 4 Jun 2002 09:01:25 +0100
From: Darryl Kempster
Subject: Netbook
Now the proud owner of a (2nd hand) netBook to replace my ailing Series 7 (screen intermittently invisible.)
Easter Egg - sure I remember reading about this on the netBook but can't find it.
OS.img build 156 - Any idea where I can find the original image posted on the web?
I have OS 158 on my machine and after Peter and Trygve's comments and playing around with it myself would much rather have the original version running. Borrowed a friend's PC but unable to restore from the CD (corrupt file message) And trying to browse the web using new version of Opera is not something I relish.
Darryl
Enroute from Nijmegen to Lisbon with Ill Nino
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Date: 4 Jun 2002 17:08:26 +0100
From: Kevin Collins
Subject: Mako/Revo Extras settings
Hi folks,
This is something which I noted on my Mako when I got it, but never got around to asking...
The machine's silkscreen icons, reading from left, are Contacts, Agenda, Email, Phone, Time, Calc, Jotter and Extras.
However, in my Mako anyway, there is a bug in "Extras bar" in the Control Panel, in so far as when one toggles through the settings, the icons appear in order of Contacts, Agenda, Email, Phone, Jotter, Time, Calc and Extras..., i.e Jotter, Time and Calc are not in the same order as they appear on the silkscreen, and accordingly one has to make allowance for this when entering one's favoured positions on the Extras bar.
I do not know if this bug applies to all Makos, or indeed to the Revo as well?
Has anybody shared this experience, I wonder?
Regards,
Kevin [Cork, Ireland]
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Date: 4 Jun 2002 20:30:00 +0100
From: Rolf Vonau
Subject: Problems with sending big attachments
Hi folks,
when I try to send emails with attachments bigger than 8 kB with the mx Pro, the email application hangs up and I must press Ct+Sh+Fn+K to kill the msgSuite.
Which preferences I should change??
Any help is appreciated.
Best Regards
Rolf
Munich
http://home.arcor.de/rhvonau/index.htm
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