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In today's Epoc Digest 27 messages:
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- Re: Generel; # 030 A couple of questions; # 030 NetBook; # 033 (DATA).csv to Excel; # 034 Contact to Data
- Modem settings Psion GoldCard
- Re: Nokia IR auto off
- Re: NetBook and wiFi
- Re: EPOCSync
- Re: Fax Classes
- How do I know I am using GPRS?
- RE: EpocDigest
- RE: EpocDigest
- Re : Agenda to ASCII; Sis tied to ID; S7 blue screen; News on Psion; Numlock
- Palmtop magazine
- Web, Nokia IR, Colours, MBMView, S7 memory, Psion, GPS, Broken screen, Text edit
- Digest & virusses,
- Re: Infra-Red connection time outs on Nokia phones
- SMS per SFR / TravelModem / priests
- NETBOOK OS / MEMORY / AGGRESSIVE POSTINGS
- S7/netBook questions, Email error, HTML editing
- Re: Nokia 9210
- Re: Symbian OS versus Microsoft 'Stinger'
- Portugal connectivity
- HTML & WEB
- Re: admin message- Re: Memory Problems
- Future
- Battery Charging + 'Drent'
- netBook ROMs
- IR modem
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Date: From: Lothar.Kammann
(Lothar Kammann)
Subject: Re: Generel; # 030 A couple of questions; # 030 NetBook; # 033 (DATA).csv to Excel; # 034 Contact to Data
To all -General-
I am back to work again after a forced upon me vacation (funeral). Thank you very much to all of you who send me a note.
To Marios Haridimou -#030 A couple of questions-
I have had a Lexar with 64MB but was not happy with it at all. I returned it to the supplier. I have had also some other brands as well but it turned out "for me" that SanDisk are the most reliable. I have just bought a 1.0GB SanDisk for my S5mx Pro (32MB). It works like a treat; A little bit slower at starting/closing a program but other than that perfect. Unbelievable, that a PDA that old can handle such sizes!!! Congratulations to PSION and its developers!!! What a shame to discontinue a line that could have attracted business people (...and others) all over the world.
Does anyone use a SanDisk *Ultra* (any size) on a Psion S5mx (Pro)?
I am tempted to buy a CF 512MB to use in my Canon G2 and my S5mx Pro.
To Tony Cabot -#030 NetBook-
I have heard about IrfanView, but I do not know if it is of any use to you.
Please check the following URL: http://www.irfanview.com/main1_de.htm (German) v3.61
To Gary Y Reyes -#033 (DATA).csv to Excel-
Thank you for the excellent explanation. I have tried it so often, but always failed to get it straight. I never got it to work so that all fields in DATA were separated in Excel in individual cells. Now it works perfect. Thanks again.
To Itamar Engelsman -#034 Contact to Data-
Am I glad I decided right from the start to stick with the DATA program and use Contacts... not at all! I even use DATA for email addresses along the the brilliant program Assistant v1.98. Simply by the hyperlink "h".
Lothar Kammann
Germany
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 09:37:34 +0000
From: Roman Frotz - Sun Germany - HR - HR generalist
Subject: Modem settings Psion GoldCard
Hi all,
hope you can help me with the settings for my recently purchased Psion Dacom GoldCard 56k+Fax (GSM & ISDN ready).
All the time im trying to dial into my local ISP I immediately receive the message "Network problem". Don't even hear a dialtone....
I've tried the same with my old 14.4 card from IBM and was sucessfull...Also tried some settings from Mike Mc Connell's page but with no luck. My current settings are:
Name - Psion GoldCard
Speed - 115200
Connect - Serial
Fax Class - Auto
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Loudspeaker in use - Always
Volume - Middle
Pause time for "," - 4 seconds
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Init (reset) string - ATZ
Data - (blank)
Fax - (blank)
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Flow - Hardware (RTS / CTS)
Terminal (DSR/DTR) [x] checked
Carrier (DCD) [x] checked
Type - Fixed Line
Thanks for your answers and especially for Itamar and the rest of the team who keeps this Digest going and going and going....
Roman
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 10:23:09 +0000
From: michael robins
Subject: Re: Nokia IR auto off
>Nokia mobiles..... selecting to activate IR once gives you a flashing IR
icon and the 2 minute cut off. But if you select it twice you get a static IR icon and no cut off...
I tried this with my Nokia 6210 but couldn't get the IR to stay on, it auto switchs off after 2 mins without fail. I checked my 6210 handbook & there is no mention of being able to lock the IR on. The IR icon flashes when trying to set up a connection and stays on once a conection is established.
(I can't remembe how to check the phone o/s version - but I bought it early last year so later phones may have more options).
Mike Robins
SRL Qantas A330
Thales Training & Simulation
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 10:30:13 +0000
From: michael robins
Subject: Re: NetBook and wiFi
Mark
I too have signed up for broadband - (unfortunately no NTL or Telewest where I live), I'd like to go Wi Fi as well - so although slightly off topic - Did you have to buy a ASDL modem plus a Router with Wi fi ? or can you get something that combines the functions... , Any recommendation on Routers / Wi Fi / ASDL modems ?
Thanks for any advice
Mike Robins
Thales Training & Simulation
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 10:31:11 +0000
From: "Marcus von Cube"
Subject: Re: EPOCSync
Hi Itamar,
>Re. Epocsync - I tried it last night and it kept on losing the connection. Now, this might have been due to the long process as it was the first time I synchronised the S7 and 5MX.
I've never had any problems with it (running version 3.03). My setup
only syncs a couple of files from my C:\documents folder and the
contacts file between my Revo+ and my netBook. Maybe the writing to
slow CF memory fouls up the connection.
Marcus
http://www.mvcsys.de
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 11:01:55 +0000
From: "Marcus von Cube"
Subject: Re: Fax Classes
Hi Daryl,
>Also be interested if any of our more technically minded members can explain difference between Fax Class 1, 2 and 3. All I know is Psions need Fax Class 2 over GSM.
Fax Class 1, Class 2 and Class 2.1 are the means of communication
between the modem (or mobile) and your computer. The higher numbered
definitions opperate on a somewhat more advanced level, moving part of
the encoding and handshaking work over to the modem.
Fax Group 3 (not Class 3!) is the protocol that goes over the wire
between fax machines. It defines the bitmap format, modem protocol, bit
rates, error correction and compression schemes for fax transmissions.
There have been predecessors (now defunct) and there is a seldomly used
ISDN successor (Group 4) for this which are all incompatible to Group 3
fax.
A Psion palmtop should be able to work with any modem that speaks one
of the fax Class definitions. I just tried sending a fax from my
netBook/Nokia 6310i combination to my stationary fax machine. The fax
was printed correctly but both the netBook and the fax machine
complained about some error. This might be due to the network operator
or the mobile, I've no idea. So you might have to follow your fax calls
with a voice call ;-)
Marcus
http://www.mvcsys.de
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 12:14:54 +0000
From: "Marios Haridimou"
Subject: How do I know I am using GPRS?
Hi all,
I have a simple question. I have a new cell-phone, an Ericsson
T39m, which I managed to use with my S7. I configured GPRS properly (I
KNOW as I no longer get the message GPRS not available). Problem is I
sense no speed gain in accessing my E-mail than I did before without
GPRS. How can I tell that I am using GPRS and not GSM to receive my
E-mail on the S7?
Thanks,
Marios
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 13:17:18 +0000
From: David Kramer
Subject: RE: EpocDigest
On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, EpocDigest wrote:
> David
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> Please note that the digest email address has changed to: >
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> Could you please update your system to send your messages only to this > new email address.
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> Did you want to subscribe to the Digest? Your email had no subject.
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> Nicole Carbonara
> The Digest Team
Yes, I wanted to subscribe. What is the admin address for this list?
I was following directions from this email:
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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:10:51 +0200
From: Trygve Henriksen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.psion.apps, comp.sys.psion.marketplace,
comp.sys.psion.misc
Subject: The UPS5 mailing list
Greetings all!
For those that doesn't know, the UPS5 digest was a mailing list filled with thousands of psioneers from all over the world. This list died about two months ago when the old Pinkworks server went offline.
Since then Itamar Engelsmann, one of the most active Psioneers on the list, has started a new list.
Those who was on the old list and haven't been contacted been him, and wants to join should send a message with Subscribe in the subject field, and nothing in the body to 'Epocdigest(a)engelsman2.fsnet.co.uk' (Just remember to insert at the correct place :-)
Of course the list IS open to new Psioneers also...
Please note that this list, unlike the old, is run COMPLETELY on a Psion S5mx... (Using a few Macro5 macros, is there nothing these wonderful machines can't do? :-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Please tell me the correct way to subscribe. Thanks.
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 13:43:43 +0000
From: EpocDigest
Subject: RE: EpocDigest
David
I subscribed you manually, as you will see as you received this Digest.
Nicole Carbonara
The Digest Team
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 13:44:13 +0000
From: Jack
Subject: Re : Agenda to ASCII; Sis tied to ID; S7 blue screen; News on Psion; Numlock
Subjest Re : "Agenda file dumpt to ASCII"
to Mick, Philip and others wishing to have a ASCII copy of their agenda files;
you may use Kabestin agendadump2 indeed,
OR, simpler, Print via General and File.
Subject : Sis tied to machine ID
To Rolf B. >...The only applications that complain about such a swap are TomTom's Route and Street Planner...<
Re Not "only" TomTom's, but others such as Tomeraider; Psyloc's; Pellot's Ocean ...
NB I dislike this registration limitations when I've to change from an Epoc machine to a new one
To Itamar E. whose:
> ...... S7 screen is very much purple/blue orientated...<
Hi Itamar! do you mean a general blue hue light or the bars and icons colour?
I had the opportunity to compare side by side some 7 and bN and found that the general colour are bright blue on new units and looks more on the red or a neutral side with age
I also had to reset and/or recalibrate "Screen" to factory settings to get rid of colour problems.
Subject Re: "Reading news from CNN etc. on psion"
I don't use PC on a daily base and don't know about CNN.
BBC.co.uk offers to daily mail your selection of their news (in Ascci or html),
NB BBC has a psion web friendly index at :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/low/english/pda/world/default.htm
More : After a one only signing up at www.web2mail.com/signup.php you may (on a daily base if needed) request any URL(s)and have them immediately mail the news you like to your psion.
Subject "Numlock"
Question to QWERTY keyboards users
Why on earth are Qwerty users using Numlock (designed for AZERTY keyboard) instead of CapsView ??
Quote from Pascal Nicolas Site :
"NumLock is a very small utility especially designed for AZERTY keyboards. It Caps locks the first line of the keyboard so that numbers can be entered without having to press 'Shift'.
As with CapsView, the state of the keyboard (Normal/CapsLock/NumLock) is indicated by an always on top icon that can be clicked on."
Jack
"Do not fold, spindle or mutilate"
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 14:36:00 +0000
From: slitchfield
(Steve Litchfield)
Subject: Palmtop magazine
In defense of the magazine I help produce(!), can I say that:
a) an overwhelming majority of readers we've canvassed have said what a great change of focus it's been. Just about every Psion owner in the world is either looking now, or will be in the future, at alternatives in the marketplace.
b) there are still 39 pages of direct relevance to Psion/Nokia owners, plus we think that if you read the rest with an open mind then you'll find most of that interesting too.
There just isn't enough happening in the Symbian world, let alone the ER5 world alone, to make a magazine worthwhile - we'd have to keep repeating ourselves!
Hope this helps set the record straight. And well done for keeping the Digest going, I do read it when I get the chance.
My personal handheld of choice at the moment? A Treo 270, which combines Series 3-style keyboard, modern Palm OS computer with colour screen and built-in mobile phone. For now, at least, this is for me the ultimate in handheld computing. ____________________________________________________________________
Steve Litchfield
3-Lib, for Psion, Palm and related PDAs, including computer-based
training on CD-ROM - see http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/
UK Palm User Group - http://www.ukpug.org/
PocketInfo, for useful files - http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/pocketinfo Sub-editor Palmtop User magazine - http://www.palmtop.co.uk/
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 15:58:10 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: Web, Nokia IR, Colours, MBMView, S7 memory, Psion, GPS, Broken screen, Text edit
Answer to: Kevin Thorne
RE. Web - Does anyone know how many S7's and netBooks were sold sofar ? What % of these users are using these machines to browse the web and from these ho wmany would be interested to pay for these plug ins ? Would you not end up with a small number of people only ? As Rolf explained, most netBook's are used for particular projects and not for general use like us.
Answer to: Darryl Kempster
Re. Nokia IR - Sorry, not on my 7110. When I press the activate button it does not give the possibillity to press it twice but confirms straight the connection, and get a flashing icon.
Answer to: Trygve Henriksen
Re. Colours - The program is called Color Magic, and thanks for the warning. Did anyone use this program succesfully before I try it ?
Re. MBMView - I don't have more than one file open, I use it to read the faxes that are sent from my office by email onwards to me.
Answer to: Michael Degn
Re. S7 memory - Thanks for the explanation, I do have Defragment as well and will try it in future. Unfortunately all these accessories are expensive, a spare battery almost 100 pounds. If anyone has got a spare battery or 16Mb DIMM for sale or hears of a sale in London for same, please let me know.
Answer to: Rolf Brunsting
Re. Psion - Your reasoning is clear and understood. Of course Companies do get bought up after which one part is sold again or closed down and the relevant part to the new owner incorporated in the purchasing Company. Anyhow, it is all theorising. Thanks for the ideas.
Answer to: Toby Butler
Re. GPS - I know that story, from time to time my wife gets mad as well when I follow the route. But than, driving in a strange city and finding the way impressed her. I hope your GPS will work well, as I had problems with the Palmtop GPS and in the end switched to an eTrex (still have the old one in the boot as a spare).
Re. Broken screen - I don't think the screens from the S5 and 5MX are interchangeable, and the screen comes with the cable connected if I am not mistaken.
Answer to: Jim Watson-Gove
Re. Text editor - If it will help you, have a look at the free of charge text editor of Symbian.
Bye,
Itamar Engelsman
London, United Kingdom
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 16:01:24 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: Digest & virusses,
Answer to: Gary Y Reyes & others
Re. Digest & virusses - I would like to reconfirm that this digest is produced entirely on Psion machines. Any attachments to emails are deleted by the digest program. I think I can safely say that you will not get a virus via this digest.
Bye,
Itamar Engelsman
London, United Kingdom
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 17:08:23 +0000
From: Julie Wills
Subject: Re: Infra-Red connection time outs on Nokia phones
>I did elicit a fix for Nokia mobiles disabling the infra-red port after a >couple of minutes of inactivity. I was told that selecting to activate IR >once gives you a flashing IR icon and the 2 minute cut off. But if you >select it twice you get a static IR icon and no cut off. Be interested if >anyone could confirm this.
Well, I tried this on my 9210, and found that although you do get the static IR icon if you press Menu 9 twice in succession, it starts flashing again after a while, and then still times out. Sorry. I would love you to have been right.
Julie Wills
Twyford, READING, UK
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 17:54:26 +0000
From: Thomas F.VAN DER ZIJDEN
Subject: SMS per SFR / TravelModem / priests
Hi group,
SFR France has a very good summer deal for (nearly) every user of foreign networks. Every day until August, 31th between 19h00 and 20h00 you can send illimited SMS's to every phone. I got this from their website. Note that the list of operators are the operators which are NOT supporting this deal. If you have a phone for one of these operators, you WILL pay your SMS. It is also not valid for prepaid carts.
Question: it happens very often to me, that I try to send an SMS with the e-mail programme, it takes a long time, I see on the IR symbol of my 7110 that it is doing something and then it stops with 'General Fault (unspecified)'. If I try it with Phoneman it just sits there, doing nothing, not even an error message. If I try it with the phone itself, it says: 'failed to send message'. What is this? It also very often does work!
I am talking about this error on Bouygues, Orange and SFR at different times, so it is not that it only happens with SFR between 19h and 20h (THAT I could understand, of course).
The tekst:
Du 25 juin au 31 août 2002, SFR vous permet d'envoyer des SMS gratuitement tous les jours entre 19h et 20h, sous réserve que votre opérateur de téléphonie mobile participe à cette opération.
Les abonnés des opérateurs suivants ne bénéficieront pas de la gratuité des SMS pendant la promotion(2) :
Hong Kong CLS / Hong Kong
New World PCS ltd / Hong Kong
OPT New Calédonia / Nouvelle Calédonie
Optus / Australie
Proximus / Belgique
Telecom Italia Mobile / Italie
Telefonica Moviles / Espagne
TMN / Portugal
Turkcell / Turquie
Vodafone / Pays-Bas
Vodafone New Zealand / Nouvelle Zélande
Wind Telecom / Italie
(1) Offre réservée à toute personne cliente d'un opérateur de téléphonie étranger ayant signé un accord d'itinérance avec SFR, et sous réserve que cette personne se connecte au réseau GSM de SFR en France. Cette offre ne s'applique pas aux clients prépayés d'opérateurs étrangers.
(2) Cette liste est susceptible d'évoluer
http://www.sfr.com/fr/promo_sms/index.jsp
Itamar, you are very lucky with a fully working travelmodem. Mine finally works quite right and I do not suffer from disconnections, except when I start up another programme or sometimes when e-mail takes a lot of time opening a mailbox (it redraws the screen....thinks...jumps to the mailbox...thinks...and finally says 'connecting to mailbox'). I honestly do not know why it does that.
For the rest: I can finally stay in touch in France without having to fear too big phone bills. I can even check out the SFR website ;-)
It is good to have the TM, even WITH its problems.
We all have had admiring glances on our Psions and we were all happy to explain, that it can 'even' e-mail and look at the web. Well, I would like to share my latest experience with the group. On my holiday address lives a 78-year-old priest who stays in contact with his colleagues... by the Internet! He is now on holiday with us and he does not like the fact that he cannot stay in contact with his colleagues. He very much likes my 'petit ordinateur', wants to know all about it (How much RAM? Which OS? What kind of batteries does it use?) and he was even more impressed about the fact, that that small box is a modem which can connect me with the Internet. He is considering of buying a 5mx and a TM, but unfortunately it will be hard to find one. :-(
Yet again a prove that the general public DOES understand that the Psion is the best PDA, if only it gets to actually see one.
I do very much like the idea of a 78-year-old priest writing his sermons on a Psion!
Sorry for the long post. I hope many of use can make use of the SMS offer.
Yours truly,
Thomas van der Zijden
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 18:24:01 +0000
From: Peter Keene
Subject: NETBOOK OS / MEMORY / AGGRESSIVE POSTINGS
Hi Guys,
Re netBook ROM:
For those who are interested, Build 156 of the netBook ROM is now officially back on the Psion Teklogix website. See http://partners.psionteklogix.com/netbookpdk/os_systems.htm
Re memory hoarded by apps:
Hitting Shift+Ctrl+I can also win back a few hundred K.
Re aggressive postings:
Glad to see that Rolf has taken suggestions that he be "nicer" in good spirit. I think that those of us who speak English as a first language need to understand that for the others the selection of words in a second, or even third, language is not easy. The first time I spoke to my bank manager in France I upset her terribly. Still don't know what I said wrong in French - it was probably how I said it. (And no, I didn't say "this is a stick-up" ;-)
Regards,
Peter
Cape Town
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 19:16:52 +0000
From: Trygve Henriksen
Subject: S7/netBook questions, Email error, HTML editing
Greetings!
Caspar Lam wrote:
> I remember reading in a previous EPOC digest about using 10 AA
> batteries to charge a S7? Is that possible without any damage to the S7
> batteries?
That was probably me....
No, there's no danger of damageing the S7(at least if you connect it the right way around :-)
But... I can't guarrantee that the battery will be fully charged by this method since the S7/netBook draws quite a lot of power and might deplete the batteries so much that the voltage drops below what is needed (about 13V or so)
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Darryl Kempster wrote:
> Color Magic $29.95 from http://www.epocware.com lets you change the
> color of desktops, menus, dialogs, buttons and other screen elements on
> your Series 7 or netBook.
Please be careful with that program.
It REALLY fucked up my netBook, so much in fact that I had to do a hard reset. (I installed it on C: so when I tried a soft reset, it just loaded the components when it restarted the OS)
That was V1.0, though...
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Itamar wrote:
> Is there anyone who has it plugged in the whole day while at work ? The
> charger is getting very hot and I am not sure this is a healthy sign for
> leaving it on 8 hours or so.
Personally, I use the 'Switch off after 5 minutes' setting regardless of battery or mains power, so it shouldn't be too hot.
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> In Chadis7 I suppose that at the top dT is the actual time you worked
> between charges ?
Yes, dT is the time(on) since the last time the battery registered 'full' (12.6V)
The other counters are time on batteries and mains respectively since the last reset.
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> Today I got the following problem when trying to open the remote mailbox:
> Screen 1: Program closed
> Program - MsvServer
> Reason code - USER
> Reason number - 21
You don't tell us exactly when this happens.
If it happes when the program tries to get the headers, then you have a REALLY fucked up mail on the server.
Try logging what happens.
If it IS a garbage message, you may have to ask a friend to delete it for you.
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Jim Watson-Gove wrote:
> I also downloaded the Neuon and Symbian text converters. They are too
> darned big for simply generating HTML. Up to now I've been generating
> HTML via Word and have been simplifying it after generation by cutting the
> code back. For my fairly straight forward use, it's obvious that I can
> manually build files more efficiently in my Homesite 4.5. The HTML coding
> is quite simple.
Did I forget to plug HTMLEdit, which is available on my site?
http://home.ci.net/trygveh/english/
:-)
Trygve
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 21:25:13 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Nokia 9210
Dear Kevin,
<< This lack of ability to upgrade is about to happen right now with the iminent release of the latest model - the 9210i. The current model (9210e) cannot be upgraded ... >>
To prevent possible confusion - people won't find a Nokia 9210e outside the UK. It's a 9210 with a few minor modifications Nokia produces for UK network operator Orange. The 9210e model name is thus Orange's. Nokia's own 92xx line consist of:
- The original 9210 for GSM900 and GSM1800 networks,
- The improved 9210i (additional memory, improved web browsing and support for Flash, JavaScript and streaming media) for GSM900 and GSM1800 networks,
and,
- The 9290 - as the 9210i but for GSM1900 networks.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 21:25:16 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Symbian OS versus Microsoft 'Stinger'
Dear Jan,
<< I'm convinced that if MS bursts in to the (smart) phone market (as rumour has it) they will allot and use marketing resources to an extent far beyond what the total of companies you mention >>
I still fail to understand why Microsoft is supposedly able to put more money behind it's 'Stinger' smartphone OS than the combination of Nokia, SonyEricsson, Matsushita (Panasonic), Siemens and Psion Group can put behind Symbian OS. If the Symbian OS line-up would have read Alcatel, Benefon, Sagem, Philips, Psion I would have said Yes. But not for the current group - NokIa is already of a size that it can take on Microsoft on it's own.
Another aspect is that the launch pad for the Stinger OS will be the Z100 by UK phone manufacturer Sendo. A small player in the mobile phone market with a low brand name recognition. Meaning that the Z100 is doing double duty by having to place the Stinger OS as well as the Sendo brand on the map. While a Nokia or SonyEricsson can concentrate on marketing the product as their brands are well established. They also have the advantage of an extended product range. Making it easier to persuade the customer to keep buying Nokia or Siemens.
The biggest problem for the Stinger-Z100 combination are the repeated delays. It was supposed to have become available in the shops in November last year. Microsoft, in the form of Roberto Cazzaro, has already mentioned things aren't going well. Cazzaro even admitted that he had "no idea" if Microsoft's smartphone software was good enough to be accepted by the network operators. While Sendo has reported that repeated integration problems are responsible for the delays. The latest one is that Stinger's GPRS protocol stack is unable to keep a connection up and running for more than a few minutes. It's not surprising that Cazzaro was already talking about a new version of the Stinger OS, complete with a new kernel, for release in 2003.
Question is whether Sendo is capable of meeting its latest launch date - October this year. If not, the company misses the lucrative Christmas sales period. While the Nokia 7650 is already in the shops and the Ericsson P800 can appear any moment now.
<< ... don't mix marketing resources for "ordinary" phones with those for smart ones >>
I don't see why. Smartphones have a lot of items in common with their less capable, more ordinary, stablemates. You don't need to put specific emphasis on the these items in your smartphone promotions. You simply use the awareness you've already created with the promotions of these 'ordinary' phones.
<< I have hardly seen one ad for 9210 per 100 ads from Nokia >>
That's logical as the market segment the 9210 belongs to is much smaller and more specific than that for the 3410 or 5210. You don't need to advertise that much but have to very selective in where you place the advertisements.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 6 Aug 2002 23:07:04 +0000
From: Dimitri Corpakis
Subject: Portugal connectivity
Travel advisory: For those of you heading to Portugal with the MC218 (5mx) and a mobile phone, beware. The Compuserve nationwide number 6707 10000 (unique for "classic" Compuserve access) is **not** accessible through a mobile phone network (line drops instantly). However if you use a fixed line modem you get an instant good quality connection.
This is of course not very wise for Compuserve since more and more people travel around with PDAs and mobile phones. Next time do not forget your card modem adaptor and your modem card / I use an old Option 33.6 k from the old 3c days and it works OK. My Ericsson R520m could not follow here...
Dimitri Cor
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Date: 7 Aug 2002 00:04:07 +0000
From: Jim Watson-Gove
Subject: HTML & WEB
I wrote my first web page in HTML in Psion Word, then fired up up Psion Web to read it. I opened File and browsed to the file. I received the message that the file can be read in Word. I ignored the message and told it to open the file anyway. It did so and I read the file in Web and see it complete with all the tags (as a text file rather than as a web page).
My new HTML book (HTML For The World Wide Web by Elizabeth Castro) says to change the extension to .HTM or .HTML. Obviously I can't do this on the Psion.
Probably the thing to do is load the Neuon text converter Word to HTML module and let the rest go.
Comments?
TIA,
Jim - Oakland
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Date: 7 Aug 2002 03:08:02 +0000
From: Korbinian
Subject: Re: admin message
Hi Nicole
> ADMIN MESSAGE> The Digest having failed to be delivered to this email address 3 consecutive times
> (Digests # 42, 43, 44), ...
Only for information:
I have/had a subDimension-Acoount as well. Since about two weeks it's impossible for me to download my eMails nor to visit their hompage.
This happend some time ago, but only for 5 days. But this time....
bIS denn
Korbinian
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Date: 7 Aug 2002 03:08:34 +0000
From: Korbinian
Subject: Re: Memory Problems
Hi there,
> I regularly delete System/wtldata/cache after a session.
Not to forget to compact the '\system\mail\index'-file if you use the eMail-App
This one could be very large, after saving an eMail during editing very often.
bIS denn
Korbinian
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Date: 7 Aug 2002 05:12:47 +0000
From: James John
Subject: Future
Hi,
It would seem that soon to own an EPOC device would be to buy a handphone cum
PDA. That would move the price up much higher than owning a basic Revo. What
a bummer.
Just recently Dell anounced that they will be producing a Pocket PC devise for
USD 299 and will be manufactured by Acer. At that price, I dont think even
Psion will dare come out with a device that will be more expensive and more
difficult to penetrate especially in the US.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Regards
James J
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Date: 7 Aug 2002 09:16:30 +0000
From: "David Bernstein"
Subject: Battery Charging + 'Drent'
Rolf,
I have to thank you for the explanation of how a battery accepts a charge. My education was 95% literary, so I need a gentle trickle charge for anything technical and you managed it!
I would be fascinated to learn more about Netherlands regional characteristics.... 'Drent' is a place? or a person who comes from a particular area? Are you seafarers? Or tulip growers? Or perhaps cheese makers? Do you wear clogs? Can you dance? Are your herrings sweet or sour? [I had better stop!! I am clearly well off topic...]
yours ever,
David B.<
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Date: 7 Aug 2002 09:39:20 +0000
From: Darryl Kempster
Subject: netBook ROMs
Just a quick notice for anyone interested in upgrading a Series 7 to a netBook :-
Expansys (0161 8680868) currently have netBook ROM modules for sale at £64.63!
Darryl
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Date: 7 Aug 2002 10:14:34 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: IR modem
Even stronger now. We have a problem with the email system at work and I now use my S7 with IR modem at work to send out messages. The modem connects each and every time without failing, while at home I have quite often problems. So what is different in the office ?
- different desk top
- different lighting (no low voltage)
- different phone line
Bye,
Itamar Engelsman
London, United Kingdom
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