Phone and SMS:

In the UK: +44 (0)787672-4631

In Norway: +47 92053097

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Date: 14 Sep 2002 23:16:56 +0100

From: "Christian Roth"

Subject: Re: 5mx, IrDA and WindowsXP ?

<<Siemens has a bit of a reputation when it comes to the data communication facilities of its mobile phones. The decisions it made regarding the ME45 are par for the course, I'm afraid. Which is a pity as Siemens' phones are well above average in other respects.>>

Dear Rolf,

it seems that Siemens just always needs some time, even a year after the product initial market premiere, until everything is sorted out. I remember when I got the S25 there were a couple of severe firmware bugs.

Now for the ME45 (or S45) there are some downloads at the website: a firmware update for the GPRS functionality, an update (or better: altered modem definition for win2k & xp) to get the gprs connection also via infrared, updated synching and so on...

In the end I succeeded! I am now able to make a gprs connection, like the Psion5 always could do.

But still, what does it take? I have to keep to a strict sequence: try to connect with the win software tool. - error. alter the settings to "manual provider settings" - error. alter the settings again - success. strange, but, you know, after years, you don't ask "why" while using billy's wonder toys.

Cheers anyway, keep on psioneering!

Chris

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Date: 14 Sep 2002 23:32:51 +0100

From: Jack

Subject: RE: TIME

Hi Janet

Subject: RE: TIME

>One inherent problem I've encountered with the TIME application >is that I don't know which areas have special seasonal time >adjustments so I don't know whether to leave the details about >summer hours or winter hours checked or unchecked.

Re : FlWorld 441 from www.freepoc.org/ does alert you if your Time setting concerning summer delay is unregular.

You may also, out of many others found by google [world time], have a look at :

www.worldtimezone.com/daylight.htm

www.timeanddate.com/time/

Have a nice summer ending

Jack

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Date: 14 Sep 2002 23:41:11 +0100

From: Mystery Man

Subject: 1 GB Type I Compact Flash?

Hi all,

Just wondering...what's the maximum Compact Flash capacity used for a Psion 5MX. I've got a 512MB and watn a larger one! I know that a 1GB one is useable, but I WANT MORE!

(I'm a teacher and store many records, data, lesson plans, worksheets, scanned docs on my palmtop, just in case you were wondering!)

Matt.

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Date: 15 Sep 2002 01:09:03 +0100

From: Peter Keene

Subject: HARASSMENT / VERTICAL MARKET MACHINES

Hi Guys,

For Rolf re harassment:

You wrote: "...I think it's best to consider your "Give Itamar a break Rolf" as 'not written'."

Consider what you like, it WAS written and I meant it. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have got the message - your posting to Itamar in # 75 goes beyond pedantism to verge on harassment.

Lighten up, the world is not a perfect place and neither are the people in it.

For Rolf re vertical market machines:

You wrote: "I could add a long list of other Windows CE, SIBO, EPOC and PalmOS based industrial handheld computers. Thing is that most of them are too specialised to be of any interest to the general consumers that make up the bulk of EPOC Digest subscribers."

The point is, your posting about there being only two H/PC machines was incorrect. Not a big deal, but I wanted to make the point to you about how irritating it is when somebody corrects you all the time? It seems that it worked.

To make the point one last time: have you done a survey to determine the demographic profile of the subscribers to the digest? Or is that an assumption?

To avoid boring or irritating other subscribers I am happy to continue this dialogue with you off-digest.

Regards,

Peter

Cape Town

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Date: 15 Sep 2002 01:27:58 +0100

From: Keith Giles

Subject: Re: Time

Janet Fine wrote:

> One inherent problem I've encountered with the TIME application is that I > don't know which areas have special seasonal time adjustments so I don't know > whether to leave the details about summer hours or winter hours checked or

> unchecked.  Does anyone have information on how to find this out?

You might take a look at this web site and scroll down through the world.

http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/g.html

Personally, I don't worry too much about it. I know when the US goes

in and out of Daylight time. I just change the

Home/Northern/European on those dates and make Southern just the

opposite. It's good enough for government work.  :-)

Speaking of Daylight time, I remember back in the early '50's when I

was working in Minnesota. At the time, Minnesota didn't observe

Daylight time but there was a push to get the legislature to pass a

law for it. There were many 'Letters to the Editor' in the newspaper.

One person wrote that he wasn't in favor of having Daylight time

because all that extra sunlight would dry out the farmer's fields.

Happy Cycling,

Keith

Sunnyvale, CA

http://home.attbi.com/~ohsix827/

Thought For The Day: A sense of humor makes you laugh at what would

make you cross if it happened to you.

All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.

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Date: 15 Sep 2002 01:38:24 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: HSCSD v. GPRS, GPRS in Denmark, Donations, Cleaning S7 screen,

Answer to: Rolf Brunsting & others

Re. HSCSD v. GPRS - So here is the crunch question. In abt. 4 weeks I used the GPRS in the UK, Holland and Scandinavia. I used 7.241 Mb in a time of 206.55 minutes. At the price charged in the UK this cost me Gbp 16.27. Using it outside the UK I suppose was undoubtly cheaper as each minute on HSCSD or GSM is charged at 75 pence / minute. But would it have been cheaper even when using it only in the UK ?

Answer to: Joseph Hamwee

Re. Donations - Given that the Digest Team are only a group of volunteers and not a commercial entity I don't think we are geared up to handling something like you describe (my personal opinion). However, why don't you organise it yourself ? Certainly I don't think the digest should become a place for commercial transactions, whether or not the proceeds will go to charity.

To All

Re, GPRS in Denmark - While in Scandinavia I found that the sending of emails in Denmark was very difficult. Every second or third email just would not go. Could it be that there is an incompatibillity with certain letters or signals in Denmark ? I used Sonofol. In Sweden they first had a technical problem, but afterwards it worked very well.

Re. Cleaning S7 screen - Thanks for all the answers. I think I'll continue to use a soft cloth and my breath to clean it, it sounds like a safe option.

Bye,

Itamar Engelsman

London, United Kingdom

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Date: 15 Sep 2002 01:38:26 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Isopropyl Alcohol, Address update,

Answer to: Peter Keene

Re. Isopropyl Alcohol - You're the 2nd one mentioning this. Where does one buy this material ?

Answer to: Rolf Brunsting

Re. Address update - I certainly did not feel harassed. Indeed, I gave the wrong info that it appeared in the digest, had forgotten I sent a separate message and in my drive to keep my Psion as clean as possible I had already deleted the message some time ago <G>. Enjoy your holiday in the UK. (and oh, languages were never my strong point in life, sorry).

Re. Settings - Wow ! Being on holiday in the UK you can still give a subscriber settings for a variety of conditions !  Do you always travel with all this infor on you ?

Bye,

Itamar Engelsman

London, United Kingdom

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Date: 15 Sep 2002 13:41:20 +0100

From: "AndyHayes"

Subject: PDF - Woe is me!

Hi All

Firstly please accept my humble apologies for throwing in the idea of a PDF fanzine and then seeming to disappear from the face of the earth. Needless to say there have been a number of problems, some of which you may be able to help with and others you will not.

My partner and I split up on 1 Sep and I moved into an empty farm "cottage". The first thing that I had to do was furnish it, not easy in the UK where shops don't want to let anything off of the shop floor. Anyway the place is now sufficiently furnished. What I don't have though is a phone line in the house so I have been unable to contact anyone by email over a landline. The alternative, a mobile phone, is not working either. When I get through to Freeserve I get a message "the call was unexpectedly disconnected". I couldn't look through the back issues of the digest for an answer as my laptop now sees fit to delete all of the items not only from my inbox, but also from the UPS Digest folder that I set up. Annoyingly, a lot of the laptop is backed up to CD, but not the email folders of course!

I am writing this email in my weekend break from my course in sunny Bracknell. The course is in two parts, System Management and Train the Trainer. This is to prepare me for a rollout of a new computer system at three of our offices. I hadn't realised my involvement in the project was going to be quite as intense as it has turned out, and this, what with other problems that I wont bore you with is seriously impinging on my spare time.

The long and the short of it is that I am not going to be in a position to produce any sort of fanzine in the forseeable future as I have just learnt that there is a further rollout that is going to be tacked on the end of the one that I am currently involved in. This is larger than the one that is causing me so many headaches at the moment. I am not expecting to be able to come up for air until the new year at least judging by a similar rollout that I was involved with in another company.

I haven't seen a digest for over two weeks so I am not sure what, if anything has been written on this subject, so if I am repeating anything that has been said by anyone else, please accept my apologies. Before my life started to become complex I received a couple of emails (now deleted) from users offering web space to the fanzine. Perhaps someone could pick up the idea and do something with it. The other idea that I had was rather than produce a magazine as such, why not just have separate downloadable articles. This would at least save the editing of the title. Users could then benefit from downloading only the parts that they want.

I am hoping to get into work tomorrow (Sunday) and send this over their phone lines and collect my backlog of mail. If you are reading this then I must have succeeded!

Thanks

Andy Hayes

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Date: 15 Sep 2002 18:32:28 +0100

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Savemail (Is Sergio here?)

Owen H. Morgan wrote:-

> I have a Mako and an MC218, both running SaveMail version 3.12 ER5. (Is this the latest version?)

I also use SaveMail version 3.12 ER5.

I don't (yet) have it on my Revo+, but use in without problems on my 5mx and so have not seen the switch off problem.

> I believe Sergio reads the digest, so that's why I'm asking here rather than direct to him, as I expect other readers may benefit from the answer.

I'll add another question.

I've just installed it onto my 7 but can't get it to save multiple e-mails to Word, which work Ok on the 5mx.  I've deleted the ini file a few times but still no joy.

While checking out with the 5mx to solve this problem, I tried to escape out of saving multiple e-mails,  and was unable to exit SaveMail.  Any suggestions?

--

Alan R Morris, GW4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 15 Sep 2002 18:32:37 +0100

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Nokia 6210 GPRS settings

> Can anyone tell me the GPRS settings for the following combination: Phone: Nokia 6210

> Computer: Revo Plus

> ISP: T-online (Germany)

Mine does not have GPRS - I guess yours is the same.  But, on Orange in UK, it does have HSCSD.

> Also can anyone recommend a Revo friendly (preferaby free) email service?  As I said I currently use T-online very succesfully with my Revo and Nokia but my wife would like an email address that she can access with her Revo (using T-online as ISP).

Why not use your address?  Each only download your own mails.  Just don't connect at the same time, as there could be a security problem with the ISP.

--

Alan R Morris, GW4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 15 Sep 2002 18:32:47 +0100

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Address !

Greetings,

I'm away from home where I use a Psion 7 for e-mails.  I received the digests on the 7 and can't tap to reply as I'd used IR to copy to a Revo+ where I'm reading and replying and then onto a 5mx to send.

I've noticed under:-

> *****   Tips for Posting to the Digest   *****

> 4. Send your messages to the above email address with the

Nowt above!

--

Alan R Morris, GW4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 15 Sep 2002 18:32:56 +0100

From: Alan Morris

Subject: GPRS

Itamar Engelsman wrote:-

> However, in Europe (heading for Denmark at the moment) each minute per GSM is Gbp 0.70 which makes GPRS a much cheaper option. .... This morning at the airport I downloaded with GPRS 11 messages from 2 mailboxes, almost 132,000 bytes in 3 minutes. Via GSM this would have been 7 or 8 minutes. GPRS costed me 30 pence. I came to the same conclusion, GPRS away, GSM at home.

Are you saying that with a UK phone you pay only about 10 pence per minute in Europe for GPRS ?

I use Orange Everyday 50 in the UK for all e-mails, even at home, but am looking for the cheapest tariff to use in Europe.  (I know that my current phone doesn't have GPRS.)

--

Alan R Morris, GW4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 15 Sep 2002 18:33:08 +0100

From: Alan Morris

Subject: RE: Tip for reading the digest - DrB5Read

David Lir wrote:-

> I still prefer DrB5Read for these reasons: it uses the hard keys....

Anyone got it's URL ?

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Alan R Morris, GW4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion & Nokia 6210e.

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