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Epoc Digest Thu, 07 Nov 2002 Volume 01 : Number 106
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In today's Epoc Digest 25 messages:
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- netpad 1400, ER5 v1.51(189), Psiboard
- The squiggly line, reminiscing...
- tri band phones
- Re: to Jim- (IR printer)
- Screen Protectors
- To Wulf Schopf - welcome psiontist
- PdfPrinter
- S7 to netbook and network
- Re: eBook prc files
- Re: quoting
- Problem receiving SMS on Nokia 5210
- The emulator disseminator: doing the Lord's work in Inverness
- Bible and 18 Germans (OT!), protective foil
- netbook upgrade
- dread number
- Re: Emulator disseminator
- -Test data integrity of CDs
- 666
- S7 size issues, netBook replacement? Good news.
- "funny" netBook screen
- CF port, Series 7 move, Countries of subscribers, Series 7 Memory Problem,
- ABP bank, Free ISP's, From NetBook to...what?,
- Free ISP?
- IR Printer
- converting to a revo
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Date: 5 Nov 2002 22:33:04 +0100
From: Err-Tee
(RTemme)
Subject: netpad 1400, ER5 v1.51(189), Psiboard
Hi netpad fans! (are there any out there...?)
It wasn't easy for me to get one of these gorgeous gadgets
from Psion Teklogix. There's a good chance that this robust
piece of hardware (not made for normal consumers) will survive
me. For me it's a worthy successor of the good old S5mxPRO.
I've got a question concerning the software keyboard
("Psiboard"). This versatile tool allows for easy changes of the
keyboard layout -- great feature so far. I predominantly use the
netpad as platform for navigation & GPS software and thus
need quite often the degree symbol °. Up to now I was not
able to find this character on one of the ten layouts.
Any ideas, recommendations, experiences on that item?
Thanks, Robert Temme (Germany)
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Date: 5 Nov 2002 22:58:58 +0100
From: Trygve Henriksen
Subject: The squiggly line, reminiscing...
Greetings!
Alberto wrote:
> Alberto, España.
> Do all people see the "ñ"?
I see it...
> I dedicate this lines to Trygveh from (ED#96) (I think that he could say it if
> he was there)
> " TIMEO DANAOS ET DONAN FERENTES "
Is that latin or something?
Care to translate?
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Gary Y Reyes reminisced with:
> A bit out of topic but pardon my reminiscing... a software I used during the
> 8-bit DOS days called Symphony by Lotus.
The all singing, all dancing package.
I heard they got the idea because at one time Lotus 123 was the most common WORD PROCESSOR in the USA. (The cells made it so easy to place the text where you wanted it on the page)
Another, similar program was PipeDream on the Cambridge Z88 laptop computer. (Beautiful machine, horrible keyboard)
There you could even split the page into columns.
(Try that on EPOC Word)
:-)
Trygve
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 00:32:17 +0100
From: Manuel Campos Galvan
Subject: tri band phones
Answer to : Susan Hoffman
< Guess I'll have to rent a phone in Italy if I want to be unwired.> Not necessarily. You may rent them here in the US (easier and cheaper). Before I had my dual band Ericsson T28, I had to rent one from Omnipoint (later voice stream, now T-mobile). Call T-mobile, they will be able to get you one. I think the rate was USD$50.00 for two weeks, but not outrageously expensive.
Best regards,
Manuel Campos
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 02:30:52 +0100
From: "fernando moros"
Subject: Re: to Jim- (IR printer)
Hi, Jim,
I am happy! a question I can say sthing about!! yeeepi!! Jim, i got a BJC-80 from ebay, 3 months ago. There was many selling. Mine was 60 pounds but I had to buy the cartridges myself (another 10 pounds from ebay too for the black ink one). The portable BJC work very well with the 5mx, the only thing I can think about is that the ink cartridge seems small if you are going to print a lot.
...any more questions about this printer or .... this printer?
Fernando
SK
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 06:13:23 +0100
From: "Gary Y Reyes"
Subject: Screen Protectors
>Date: 5 Nov 2002 13:52:58 +0100
>From: Itamar Engelsman >Subject: Free ISPs?, 666, Protective Film,=20 >
>Answer to: Gary Y Reyes
>
>Re. Protective Film - Just out of interest, did anyone ever = >scratch a screen with normal use ?
>
>Best regards,
>Itamar Engelsman
Itamar,
Not that I know of. I guess the glass is durable enough not to scratch under normal use. And so long as you stay with the supplied stylus or the after-market ones and don't use something like your hunting knife on the screen, it should be okay.
In my case, the protective film I use gives me a more positive "feel" when you glide the stylus over the screen. Just a personal preference, I would think, rather than a real tecnical issue.
Gary
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 06:18:10 +0100
From: Jorge Ramos
Subject: To Wulf Schopf - welcome psiontist
On 5 Nov 2002 Wulf Schopf wrote: "It is quite interesting which philosophical and theological aspects are implied into the attendance of 18 Germans."
Hi,
i admit that my reference to the 18 individuals who swelled the number of subscribers to 666 was a weak attempt at apocalyptic humour (because many fundamentalists interpret 666 as big brother type of control by technology) but no slur was intended on anyone and i hope no offence was taken - Psioneering is a universal communal activity and the more Psiontists out there the better!
Best regards
Jorge Ram
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 07:49:47 +0100
From: Steve Hodgson
Subject: PdfPrinter
I've followed the discussions on the release date and cost of the PdfPrinter application with some interest over the last few days.
It's out now for about €34 (Euros) and, for my personal use, well worth the money. For me this is an essential application as it dramatically improves how well I can share information and documents from my Psion.
I have neven been a fan of the various on-Psion conversion applications because of the file types that are used for target formats. I don't like using proprietary formats such as Word and Excel as they are too specific for one platform and, while they can be read on other platforms and using other applications, the carefully crafted layout and fonts will rarely be maintained. With complex documents created on the PC this can even be the case when taking a Word file to another windows PC and the same version of Word.
More open formats such as RTF and HTML either suffer from the same problems to a lesser extent or do not provide the functionality to create complex documents.
Using PDF I know that the document will stand a good chance of looking the way I intended but must be weighed against the fact that PDF documents can not be amended easily (this might not be a bad thing of course).
Regards,
Steve Hodgson
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 08:04:35 +0100
From: Bostjan Jerko
Subject: S7 to netbook and network
Hello !
I "upgraded" my S7 to Netbook (using ROM board) and everything works fine. Now I am thinking of buying Psions network card, but I don't know if it will work with that kind of hardware. Anybody tryed something like that?
B.
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 08:25:02 +0100
From: Steve Hodgson
Subject: Re: eBook prc files
>>I am also interested in finding a program that will turn doc or text files into >>prc files to be used with mobipocket reader.
You can download a free conversion program to run on the Psion itself. This will convert text file to prc files and back again if required. It's driven through the command line so you might find it a little awkward but in my experience it's pretty easy to do.
check out http://www.geocities.com/ebookepoc/utilities.html
The same page also has a download for a Windows conversion tool, I suspect that this is probably MakeDocW by Mark Pierce.
Regards,
Steve Hodgson
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 10:00:05 +0100
From: "Chris Cooper"
Subject: Re: quoting
A long ago I wrote:
> And may I also ask people *always* to quote relevant parts of the message being responded to? An answer isolated from the original message can be incomprehensible
Itamar replied:
> Re. Quoting - Personally I don't need the quotes as I mostly remember the contents from one day to the next and always have the old digest on file anyhow to check up if I don't. ... I suppose we all work differently and this is the way I do it <G>.
Well, please show some consideration for those who work differently! As an administrator, of course you have back issues handy. But there must be lots of people like me who don't keep past Digests hanging around - I copy what's relevant and bin what isn't. I certainly am not going to go online to dig out an old mail.
and Alan Morris wrote:
> If every message had a number in the format of Digest/number - ie. #100/4, then it would be easy to find the original message, without the need for lengthy quotes.
Aaargh! The horror of it! it's so easy to give just short, relevant quotes!
I've given you a splendid example in this mail ...
Best,
Chris
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 13:54:23 +0100
From: Dave Thomas
Subject: Problem receiving SMS on Nokia 5210
Problem receiving SMS on Nokia 5210 - Does anybody have a solution for this
Kind Regards
Dave Thomas
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 14:44:45 +0100
From: "Chris Cooper"
Subject: The emulator disseminator: doing the Lord's work in Inverness
I've tried several times to download giant SDK files from the Psion site, only to be told right at the end of the process that the download had failed. A long time ago Julie was kind enough to email me the files in nine chunks, but when I opened them, they failed to weld themselves together.
The other day I discovered Gareth Saunders' site at
http://www.gareth-and-jane-saunders.co.uk/ps_sdks.htm He provides all the SDKstuff and more on CD-ROM at a trivial cost. A quote from this page:
>>
CD-ROM Contents
* Symbian/EPOC R5 SDKs (C++, Connectivity, Java, OPL, Revo, Patches and Fixes)
* SIBO Emulators (Series 3 Classic, Series 3a, Siena, WorkAbout)
* OPL Manuals (Windows Help, EPOC Help, SIBO .dbf, HTML, PDF)
* PsiWin (PsiWin 1.1, PsiWin 2.1, PsiWin 2.3.2, PsiWin 2.3.3)
* Psi-Sync for MS Outlook (for SIBO - shareware/unregistered)
* Screensavers (Psion logo for Windows 3.1 and Windows 95+)
* OVAL 1.21 SDK (SIBO VisualBasic-style SDK for Windows)
* Various SIBO and EPOC applications
* Various PC programming tools and applications
CD-ROM Notes:
* The CD-ROM is shipped labelled, in a jewel-case box and a padded-envelope. I enclose a letter of receipt with every order.
* I use Nero Burning ROM 5.5 and Avery DesignPro 2000 label printing software. I just thought you might be interested.
* I also have the Symbian Quartz 6.1 SDK available. Due to the size it requires a separate CD-ROM.
* I do not (yet) have the Netpad OS or SDK. If you can send me these I would be very interested, as I do not have broadband access and it would take ages for me to download them.
Charges
In order to cover material costs, postage and packing and my time I charge the following:
* £5.00 UK
* €10.00 Europe
* $10.00 USA / Rest of World
* or make me an offer which may catch my attention, such as software exchange, etc.
>>
You can trust this guy (he's Assistant Curate at St Andrew's Cathedral, Inverness, after all) - I got my CD a couple of days after PayPalling him my fiver.
So, thanks to Gareth, I now have a working emulator for my 5mx to play with. (Expect numerous Emulators-for-Dummies-type questions on the Digest soon).
A great resource. (And he hadn't even heard of the Digest till I told him about it! I hope he's subscribed now.)
So somebody send him that Netpad stuff he wants, will you?
Best,
Chris
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 17:27:20 +0100
From: vlad arghir
Subject: Bible and 18 Germans (OT!), protective foil
> Wulf, Rolf wrote:
> I am one of the 18 from Germany....quite interesting which > philosophical and theological aspects are implied into the > attendance of 18 Germans...subscribed _62_
19 or 63 - I am an adoptive one, though. Btw, the counting is typical ;-) I still remember: my first discussion ever in Germany was about Shakespeare. A NY artist living in Berlin recently told me: "Germans are great, but you can seldom have a normal conversation, they always start talking about serious things". ;-)
> out of interest, did anyone ever scratch a screen with normal use ?
YES. I'd dropped my pen and it became scratchy or it just caught a grain of sand. What is "normal" use, btw, for a Psion? ;-)
btw: last call for protective foil:
Willing to order several for cost s+p&p, for anyone interested.
Price: between 5 and 3 EUR depending on number ordered
Jan R Gustafsson wanted two, I`ll take two - cost fttb: 4 EUR+p&p
Anyone else? I'll wait for another couple of days, kindly email me offlist.
best
vlad
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 19:10:25 +0100
From: Darryl Kempster
Subject: netbook upgrade
In September I heard Psion had updated the PCB on all new netBook products to increase the power to the PC card slot allowing use of ISDN and GPRS connectivity. When I rang the repair centre to enquire about the possibility of upgrading my netbook to take advantage of this they told me to ring back as they hadn't decided whether they were gioing to offer this or not. When I next spoke to them they said they were going to offer this upgrade and that they would email the details. I waited for the info but it never arrived so I rang them again to be informed that they had stopped offering this upgrade 10 days ago! And that it was not going to be repeated in the future!
Did anyone manage to get this upgrade performed? The guy I spoke to seemed confused as he suggested I contact POS and they aren't allowed to offer repairs to either the Series 7 or netBook, so I'm wondering if what he told me was actually the full story. Anyone have any more info?
Darryl
Back off tou
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 21:16:03 +0100
From: MartinYirrell
Subject: dread number
-Thanks
To the folk who work so hard to bring us this digest, well done.
-Dread number
Peter
re 666
Yeh, I'll admit I looked twice. <g>
-Wish list
What I've wanted for some time is a way to transfer my Compuserve posts (from CSI 3.4) to the Psion.
-GirlPsionies
I thought Guys actually meant male and female these days. At least that's what my kids tell me. <g>
Martin
(who is struggling to keep up with his email)
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 21:29:04 +0100
From: "Chris Cooper"
Subject: Re: Emulator disseminator
Further to my previous posting ...
> The other day I discovered Gareth Saunders' site at http://www.gareth-and-jane-saunders.co.uk/ps_sdks.htm He provides all the SDKstuff and more on CD-ROM at a trivial cost.
... someone else who should be known about by anyone wanting to dip their toes into emulation is Keith Giles, at
http://home.attbi.com/~ohsix827/emulator.htm - he mentioned this on the list a few weeks ago. He'll send you some indispensable files.
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 22:21:29 +0100
From: MartinYirrell
Subject: -Test data integrity of CDs
Owen
I use CDCheck which is free for personal use. A copy of what I assume is the same software is on PC Plus' SuperDisc this month. But it is not very fast. My PC is a 233 with a 16x DVD drive and it took about seven minutes to check a CD-R that was fairly full.
Martin
Who is still catching up with his emails.
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 22:21:39 +0100
From: MartinYirrell
Subject: 666
It comes from Revelation 13:18
Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is six hundred and sixty-six
The beast comes out of the Earth and requires all those who wish to trade to have its mark on their forehead. Usually, as Peter has said, it is identified as the Devil.
Martin
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 22:35:00 +0100
From: Trygve Henriksen
Subject: S7 size issues, netBook replacement? Good news.
Greetings!
John Morris asked:
> Could others please explain how they cope with the "size" issue? I too
> would like a colour version with larger keys and a bigger display, but
> then it wouldn't fit in my pocket anymore. And if size isn't the issue, then
> why not buy a sub-notebook, or even a laptop
Size issue?
my netBook fits quite nicely in my backpack, or the sidebag on my bicycle...
Why I use it instead of a laptop?
1. Battery life.
2. instant on.
3. Solid! (No laptop could ever take the same beating as my netBook)
4. Apps that does what I want of them...
5. Rock solid OS.
That's my reasons...
> I've also got to be honest and say that it's rare that I actually keep
> the Mako in my pocket - more often than not it's carried in my
> briefcase, or it's open on my desk.
Sounds like you're S7/netBook compatible already...
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Jonathan Shapiro asked:
> In the relatively near future, I'll need to think about what to replace it with:
> another NetBook (are they still making them, and is it worth the expense?).
> A palm/handspring with an extended keyboard? A pocket PC? A baby
> laptop with full Windows?
Not only are they still making them, but they released an upgraded model in September. (Can deliver more power to the PCMCIA port, enabling it to use more network cards and such)
> Will I have to convert each file to another format?
You should probably synch the contacts with Don'tLook or something, then synch with the target.
> Does Psion convert to Palm?
Nope...
Psiwart only converts to Windooze based formats, so you'll have to do a conversion from those to your target platform afterwards...
Luckily, Psiwart allows for Drag'n Drop conversion of multiple files at one time...
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Now for some REALLY good news!
I received a package in the mail today, and as of 19:47 tonight, my trusty Psion S5 lives again!
(It took a while to mount that screen cable)
It's as new again...
No, it's even better!
(It has a gold coloured casing from POS Ltd, so looks stunning!)
:-)
Trygve
Things to do:
Get a new battery connector lead for my S3a
Resolder the PSU connector on my netBook
Build that new battery pack for the MC400
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 22:50:42 +0100
From: boller
Subject: "funny" netBook screen
I'm sending this message/query to all AND to Itamar because my last two messages to
a funny thing is happening to the screen of my netBook. There has been difficulty with calibration of the scren for some time. The other night, the screen stopped responding altogether. After a HARD reset (the kind where you take the two batteries off for several minutes), it started responding again, but not well. In most cases, the effect is one to two cm off, always on the same side e.g. if I put the stylus on one word of this message, the hit appears way on the left. However, in some applications, Phoneman for instance, this "off" effect disappears and the hit is exactly where I put the sylus.
Any explanation? suggestion?
thanks in advance
francois
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 23:04:28 +0100
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: CF port, Series 7 move, Countries of subscribers, Series 7 Memory Problem,
Answer to: Owen H. Morgan
Re. CF port - I don't think you are right. People were not driven away from Psion because of a lack of CF port. How many users after all use the CF slots at all ? Only a very small % use their Psion for emailing and browsing, most just as an elevated diary, data base with some games included. And yes, Psion never looked at their products as a stand-alone computer, but as a PDA next to a computer.
Answer to: John Morris
Re. Series 7 move - Of course, the S7 is easily carried in your hand while walking, moving between car and office/house, fits neatly in a normal attache case together with other contents, indeed switches on instantly to just look up a number or a data. But no, it does not hang on my belt when going to the theatre, a restaurant or visiting friends. The question is, do you really need all that info with you 24 hours a day ? If so, use EpocSync to synchronise your Revo with the S7 and take the Revo when the S7 is too big.
Answer to: Rolf Vonau
Re. Countries of subscribers - Interesting you can obtain these details from the subscribers list. Could you try and make a list of all the countries we have subscribers from with the numbers ? Certainly would be interesting to know. Of course some email addresses are ".com" and will not show the country of origin.
Answer to: Andrew Gardner
Re. Series 7 Memory Problem - If you really did a hard reset the S7 would have restored the factory settings and you should have been able to work again. A good was to make sure you did a hard reset is to take out both the main and back-up batteries and leave it for 15 minutes or so. It could be that the back-up you are trying to restore is faulty. Did you try to restore manually folder by folder with copy and paste ?
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
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Date: 6 Nov 2002 23:04:38 +0100
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: ABP bank, Free ISP's, From NetBook to...what?,
Answer to: Kevin Thorne
Re. ABP bank - I can wholeheartedly recommend this program (and have no contact with it). I use it for quite some time already, and one of the great functions is to export data to a spreadsheet.
Answer to: Hoffman, Susan
Re. Free ISP's - Sorry but i have no details of free ISP's in all European countries. In the UK there are several like Freeserve, Freenet and others. I suggest Europeans will post details for their respective countries.
Answer to: Jonathan Shapiro
Re. From NetBook to...what? - First of all you could contact POS if they can replace or repair the keyboard and IR port. Secondly you could try and buy a new or 2nd hand netBook or S7. As to replacements, I am not the expert in this field, but if you are used to a netBook the choices are limited. I would look at the new Nokia communicator, the HPJornada 728 or notebooks. I don't think you will be happy with a small machine like the Palms or PocketPC ones (I would not, being used now to the S7 but still using the 5MX from time to time, mainly with GPS and route- and streetplanner in the car).
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 00:31:06 +0100
From: Dan Siegel
Subject: Free ISP?
Not sure if NetZero can be accessedby a 5 or Netbook but worth a try. Also, Starbucks ae offering a "free" intro day in many places for their wireless access.
Dan
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 02:03:12 +0100
From: Jim Watson-Gove
Subject: IR Printer
Gary
<<If you have access to an existing desktop printer whose driver is available on the Psion, you might try using an IR plug-in accessory for the printer from Acti-Sys or some similar company.>>
Thanks for the response. I know the unit well - bought one and used it with my Zaurus (my first PDA not counting a RS Model 100 which almost was a PDA).
Worked a treat and still have it. Unfortunately it too is packed.
The house is going through the offer process so won't be without my household goods much longer.
jim - port townsend, WA
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 06:21:46 +0100
From: "Jim Cooke"
Subject: converting to a revo
Date: 4 Nov 2002 15:51:16 +0100
Answer to: Toby Butler Subject: converting to a revo
<I'm experimenting with a revo after a 5mx; i love the lightness of it, but I'm having a few teething problems. Firstly my trusty extrabars doesn't work with <the revo screen which is a shame, but not the end of the world. I have set up some shortcuts that I want to continue using though - does anyone know <of a shortcut program that works well with the revo?
Yes indeed. Get Shortcuts - this is available from Tucows and most other Palm sites. It sits on top of Macro5 and provides three screens of user definable shortcuts for everything from macro to programs. You assign a hot key ( I use Fn+s) and you can then either tap on the short cut or just enter the shortcut letter from the screen. I've found this to be more useful and flexible than Macro5 itself except for writing macros, of course.
<Also the 'today' screen won't work with my diary file - either it works and the agenda key doesn't (in use, it warns) or my agenda works and the today <<screen has no entries. Has anyone worked out a solution to this one?
Go to Tools, Preferences while in the Today view. In the Today view tab, untick "Keep File Open". You'll then be able to see your agenda data in the Today view or by pressing the Agenda button.
Regards, Jim
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