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Epoc Digest Mon, 18 Nov 2002 Volume 01 : Number 113
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In today's Epoc Digest 15 messages:
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- PSION PRODUCTION
- NOKIA 6210e
- Re: JB5Launch
- Epoc Digest and DigHandler sw
- netB & S7 screen-cable problem
- EMail List Addres Management, JB5Launch, Two Psions Phil., GPRS,
- modem-settings, morality
- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 112
- Archives, HSCSD costs, Vintage musings...
- pswin 2.3 & windows xp
- Subject: Marketing of Psion in US
- US laptop in Europe
- Re: ER3/5 programs
- Re: Nokia 6210e signal loss
- MMC to PC card converter
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 06:43:38 +0000
From: Peter Keene
Subject: PSION PRODUCTION
Hi Guys,
For Itamar re production of Psion machines:
You wrote: "Unfortunately all Psion machines are out of production but for the netBook."
I'm not sure about that Itamar - Psionet in Cape Town are still getting new-build S5mxs. They're even advertising them in the morning daily broadsheet here (and, I believe, selling quite a few of them). Then, of course, there's the netpad and the other industrial machines :-)
Regards,
Peter
Cape Town RSA
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 07:01:38 +0000
From: Peter Keene
Subject: NOKIA 6210e
Hi guys,
I've been following the comments about the Nokia 6210e with interest.
I don't know what the 'e' means, down here it was sold as the 6210, but I've been using one for over a year now without problem. I use it for sending and receiving e-mails (including this one) and faxes (less often) and have even surfed with it a bit when away from a landline connection. I have also sent and received e-mails with it on a moving train deep in the Karoo, far from civilisation. I can remember only two dropped connections. Maybe I was lucky in the handset that I got.
One thing - because of the built-in antenna, Nokia reccomend placing the handset upside down, when used as a modem, to expose the antenna.
Regards,
Peter
Cape Town RSA
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 07:20:38 +0000
From: "Henri Spagnolo"
Subject: Re: JB5Launch
Hello Andy,
May be you will be interested having a look at MenuS5 which is an applications launcher and stay in memory.
You can set as many different configuration files you want, for the Revo each file is a set of 7 pages and each pages can have 26 applications or documents of folder sets. For the Series 5 it is 10 pages and for the Series7 15.
It is not freeware, it cost $15 ($19 via Regnet or Handango). The evaluation version has some limitations.
But maybe you already tested it and it does not meet your requirements.
The link is: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/YetAnotherHomePage/menus5gb.html
Regards
Henri
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 08:57:32 +0000
From: Jan R Gustafsson
Subject: Epoc Digest and DigHandler sw
Hi all!
Rolf Vonau is one of those nice guys who strive to give us this digest. He is also the author of DigHandler, a software which makes reading and other handling of postings to the Digest very easy and straightforward. However, I was disappointed to hear the other day that Rolf has very few registered users of DigHandler. With over 600 digesters now, one would expect that more than a handful would use it and register it.
My suggestion: use the fine sw DigHandler and show Rolf (and the other on the Epoc Digest team) your appreciation by registering for use!
Best regards,
Jan G
Stockholm, Sweden
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 09:24:23 +0000
From: boller
Subject: netB & S7 screen-cable problem
"Simon Wolf" wrote:-
<< I believe that this is a screen-cable problem where the cable is coming loose from the motherboard. To temporarily solve this you can try pressing down on the logo above the keyboard two or three times (this needs to be quite hard but please don't hold me responsible for adverse results!). >>
it has wroked for me so far; my gratitude to Simon and a question: How did you find that out
how about you, Alan?
francois
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 10:20:34 +0000
From: itamar
Subject: EMail List Addres Management, JB5Launch, Two Psions Phil., GPRS,
Answer to:Jim Watson-Gove
Re: EMail List Addres Management - Sure there is a program ... the digest program written by Rolf Vonau. However, it is relaly his "baby" so I suggest you contact him off digest.
Answer to: Andy Hayes
Re. JB5Launch - Try to contact John, sometimes he is prepared to make small adjustments to his programs.
Answer to: Philip Adkins Potter
RE. Two Psions Phil. - Now I still have 2 5MX machines as well as my S7. If anyone ever gets without a machine and would like to purchase the second 5MX, contact me off line.
Answer to: Mike McConnell
Re. GPRS - I think the best option is to use GPRS for downloading mail to GPS for sending out mail unless you send very long messages. For one reason or another the sending of messages takes almost double the bytes of the size of your messages.
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
The Epoc Digest Team
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 11:40:17 +0000
From: vlad arghir
Subject: modem-settings, morality
http://www.psionwelt.de/cgi-bin/modemdb/modemdb.cgi
Look here for modem-settings. Choose your model from the list, print the next page.
In German, but probably understandable to anyone
> What do readers think about the morality of...crack the registration codes > of those programs whose authors have disappeared?
If the authors cannot be found in any way (phone directory assistance of city of last adress - usually mentioned in Help; Internet search by name); it should be okay to write a plugin for regit... If they can be found they might be willing to offer it for download as freeware.
The understanding regarding most shareware is indefinite support.
It is also a legal matter, not only one of ethics, though.
My analogy would be: if a parking meter is broken, you are allowed to park there for free.
best
vlad
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 13:40:22 +0000
From: Charles Barraball
Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 112
On Sun 17 Nov, Epoc Digest wrote:
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> Date: 16 Nov 2002 19:11:56 +0000
> From: PaulDDB
> Subject: Stylus or scratched screen?
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> I just realised that I vever use the stylus anymore - I use the plastic tip of a Pape > rmate ballpoint pen (ballpoint retracted!). It's accurate and convenient.
Try the rubber tip of a lead pencil, wooden or mechanical. Works a
treat, very positive.
Charles
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 15:43:58 +0000
From: Trygve Henriksen
Subject: Archives, HSCSD costs, Vintage musings...
Greetings!
Philip Carlisle wrote:
> Philip Potter wrote about preserving ER3/5 programs in an archive.
> What do readers think about the morality of one or more of the more
> expert working to crack the registration codes of those programs
> whose authors have disappeared?
I would think 'I don't want to be any part of it!'
It doesn't matter if the author has seemingly disappeared off the face of the Earth, it's still HIS PROPERTY.
If you asked 'what do you think about trying every means available to track down the author and getting a generic code or code-free version of the program?', then it's another matter entirely...
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Mike McConnell wrote:
> In very general terms, HSCSD gives three times the data tranfer
> rate for three times the cost so you get your data faster, then disconnect.
Not everywhere...
The cost of HSCSD here in norway is only twice the cost of a 'simple data connection', so if you get three times the speed, it's cheaper than a normal data connection. (As long as the idlee time is kept at a minimum)
> Problem is, if the login to the ISP or the mailbox happens to be slow, it is
> costing three times as much for this "idle" time. GPRS doesn't have this
> cost - you pay for exactly the amount of data transferred.
Too true....
And with the typical connect time of 10 seconds or more unless you can get reliable connection to an ISDN node, those costs can soon add up.
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Walking down memory lane...
I've been playing with a Siena these last few weeks..
Several colleagues have asked 'where can I get it?' and 'is it new?'
Most refuse to believe it's old...
They also plain refuse to believe the battery statistics...
(14 - 15mAh)
Then I got the external SSD drive for it.
Since it connects to the RS232 port I hoped that there was a way to make it work with my netBook, but...
The plug looks identical but isn't, so it only fits the Siena. (I don't have a S3c or S3mx to try on yet)
It's also just as fast as the internal SSD drives on any other SIBO model, so it's plainly NOT using Serial communications. (The Siena is limited to 19200baud)
But the worst thing about it, is...
The bl**dy thing needs an AC adapter(Comes with the S3 PSU)
no battery power at all...
I guess that means Psion boffins can make mistakes, too...
:-)
Trygve
Who has the top bid on an Psion S3 classic on QXL.no right now...
(Please don't try to outbid me :-)
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 15:56:48 +0000
From: "Gordon Oke"
Subject: pswin 2.3 & windows xp
Hi
I am at present using my Revo with psiwin 2.
The computer is a Pentium 3 450mhz with windows 98.
I am soon to replace this with a AMD ATHLON XP2200+ 266 Mhz FSB with Windows XP.
Can you please tell me whether this version of psiwin will work with Windows Xp, and if not how I can resolve the situation ?
Many thanks.
Gordon.
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 17:53:00 +0000
From: boller
Subject: Subject: Marketing of Psion in US
Paraphrasing Susan,
If I can add my two cents (Euro) worth to the failed efforts to market Psion in the US, I read a little known story in Butter and Pogue's fascinating book on the development of Palm (Piloting Palm, Wiley, 2002). When in 1994, Jeff Hawkins and his small team were desperately looking for allies in order to develop the Palm, they approched Psion which, they knew was leading the market in Europe. The idea, for a start, was to write a connectivity software together. The CEO of Palm, Donna Dubinski had a meeting with Psion people at Psion's San Francicsco office (did you know they had one?). We are told that the meeting went well, but that Psion ultimately decided to write its own software.
Assuming the story is not apocryphal, we can speculate how different History might have been if...
francois
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 19:14:34 +0000
From: PaulDDB
Subject: US laptop in Europe
To Susan Hoffman
<< talking my husband into bringing his laptop along, which has internet access in Europe (will the US analog modem work over there?). >>
Susan - the laptop will work fine in Europe - but buy a small male->female phone plug converter because the plugs are different.
Paul Bishop (CA)
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 21:05:56 +0000
From: "Steve Hodgson"
Subject: Re: ER3/5 programs
> What do readers think about the morality of one or more of the more
> expert working to crack the registration codes of those > programs
whose authors have disappeared?
Philip,
I think you may have a tiger by the tail with this question...
Personally I feel that this is not an option and would be morally (and
more importantly, legally) wrong. It's disappointing when a developer
moves on and does not continue to support even registration but we have
to recognise that that is their right. The alternative is to look
round for an alternative package or even develop one.
Even on grounds of practicality, who can make the judgement that an
author has 'disappeared'? To take a couple of hypothetical examples,
say an author reappeared after a long-term illness or prison sentence -
have they somehow lost the right to an income from the product they
originally developed and brought to market simply because they failed
to respond to queries and correspondence? If you have a second house
and don't use it for a number of years, don't answer mail to that
address while still paying utility bills (analogous to an author
maintaining a web presence) - do I have the right to break down the
door and move in, simply because the community judges that you've gone?
Regards,
Steve Hodgson
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 21:08:25 +0000
From: "Steve Hodgson"
Subject: Re: Nokia 6210e signal loss
> My company returned several hundred of these models due to 'terrible'
> performance. Signal loss, complete signal failure,
> hardware faults, constant software crashes. You name name it, the
> 6210 did a lot of harm to Nokia's corporate reputation.
> Particularly the earlier models.
From all the other postings on this it sounds as though this is a
recognised problem. What are the alternative phones that don't exhibit
this problem? I would probably still want to stick with Nokia as the
menu system and setup is so intuitive.
Cheers,
Steve Hodgson
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Date: 17 Nov 2002 22:00:02 +0000
From: Kevin Thorne
Subject: MMC to PC card converter
Does anyone know where I can get a MMC to PC card converter? I simply want to use it to allow me to back up the MMC in my Nokia Communicator to a folder on my S7 using the PC card slot. I don't have a PC so one of those ones that connect via USB would be of no use to me.
Regards
Kevin Thorne
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