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In today's Epoc Digest 35 messages:

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- Portable InfraRed Printer

- 6310i and faxing; =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=10?= Web on Mako

- Re: MenuS5,

- Importing from Contacts

- Re: Epoc Digest and DigHandler sw

- vCard export to Palm

- C-Compile

- Software Morality

- USB GIrBIL and EPOC Release 5

- USB GIrBIL; 6310i and faxing;

- Tom Tom Cityplanner,Shareware, Digest program,

- Web on Mako

- Re: Zenobyte

- Shareware Again

- Re: Holidays & temporary unsubscribe

- International Phone prefixes

- Re: Re: Epoc Digest and DigHandler sw

- Re:Re: MenuS5 limitations / Morality

- Psion won't close

- Re: Sendo dumping MS & licensing Symbian

- Re: 9210 battery life, successor tothe present model

- Re: Nokia 6210

- Re: Laptop connectivity

- Re: America

- Re: Psion Marketing in North America

- Re: Question about Revo

- Re: Siemens, Series 5, Virgin/Tiscali

- Re: Using S7 in the car

- Re: Breaking in

- Re: Marketing of Psion in US

- Re: Ser.7 and Revo/ Mako

- Re: NOKIA 6210e

- Re: Epoc Digest and DigHandler sw

- Re: ER3/5 programs

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Date: 23/11/2002 10:26:24 pm

From: David McCorquodale

Subject: Portable InfraRed Printer

Could someone advise me as to the best quality and smallest portable printerfor use with my netbook, whilst out on the road. Would I have to install anyfurther drivers for your suggestion or will the drivers that come with thenetBook suffice. I would also like the option for it to use battery power aswell as mains.

Many thanks

David

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Date: 24/11/2002 12:30:17 am

From: Kevin Collins

Subject: 6310i and faxing; =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=10?= Web on Mako

Hi folks,

BTW I posted this already, about 24 hours before issue of the last Digest,but as it didn't appear, I am presuming it fell into the Bermuda Triangle<smile>, and am posting it again ... therefore, if there's a duplication inthis issue, please forgive me :-)

Re: 6310i and faxing

To Mike and others: I reported recently that I was able to fax successfullywith my 6310i and 5mx combination. Well, due to a fault in the phone, Ireceived a replacement, and this one sends the first page *twice* each time,irrespective of modem. It is a more recent build: if one presses *#0000#one is given this info. This phone is v 5.10 date 11-09-02. Does anyonewho has this build have the double fax problem, I wonder. At least I cansend, I suppose :-)

Re: Web on Mako

Andrew wrote:

< when attempting to install Web on my Mako. The fix was to change the fileproperties of a system file from read only (not certain but think it was'System\LIBS\WebEng.dll', if not search for a read only file in System

folders).>

Andrew, thanks very much for that. I am apparently one of the few whoprefer Opera to Web, but for size reasons would prefer Web on my Mako. WhenI tried to install (or run? i cannot recall now) about a year ago, I am sureI

received a message to the effect that the Mako did not support the Webapplication. Are you saying that if I go ahead and install, and change thefile properties as above, that Web will actually run on the

Mako?

Regards,

Kevin [Cork, Ireland]

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Date: 24/11/2002 5:52:04 am

From: Lawrence De Coste

Subject: Re: MenuS5,

>From: "Henri Spagnolo" >Subject: Re: MenuS5limitations / Morality

>The only limitation of MenuS5 is the fact that you can't remove or move an>entry or rename a page.

>I am sorry, but these limitations does not affect in any case how the>program works. This is a choice, some programers do prefer to give only 15>or 30 days,

Just thought I'd say that I've used Henri's program as the frontend tomy 5mx and have been very pleased with it. When an upgrade wasavailable Henri emailed me about it and how to get it.

I personally think his limitation on the unregistered version is

rather ingenious. It did certainly irritate me -- that's why I

bought it. But my irritation came from using the program a lot

and not wanting to start all over again to modify things.

Take care

Larry De Coste

Riverside RI EE.UU.

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Date: 24/11/2002 5:56:39 am

From: "James Cooke"

Subject: Importing from Contacts

<<Date: 21/11/2002 9:44:30 am

From: "D.N.Wijewardane"

Subject: Exporting Contacts using vCard format

Hello!

Can anyone throw light on exporting Contacts database using the inbuiltvCard (.vcf) function on a Revo+? I exported my entire Contactsdatabase this way but failed to import it into Palm's Desktop/Addresssoftware (which lists a vCard format as acceptable, but this has a .vcsextension and not .vcf as in the EPOC Contacts software). Attempting toimport a 599k Contacts database containing about 1300 individual contactdetails causes the Palm Address Book software to crash, quoting too manyentries ! Surely it can't be that hard a task...

Also where can I download vCard software to read my original Contactsexport file?

Any light gratefully received.

Best wishes

Nishy

Sri Lanka>>

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Nishy,

The Vcard format is not standard and is not the way you want to go. Doyou already have your contacts exported to a CSV file? If not, this thefirst thing to do. The easiest way is to sync with Outlook or LotusOrganizer. Failing that, there are several programs that will export thecontacts store to CSV - have a look at Tucows.com. Once you've got yourCSV file, it should just be a matter of field mapping between the Palmdesktop and the CSV file to import.

Regards, Jim

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Date: 24/11/2002 8:24:25 am

From: Rolf Vonau

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest and DigHandler sw

Reference is made to the mail in the EPOC DIGEST V1 # 115 :

Alan Morris wrote at 22.11 2002 (> ):

> << Rolf Vonau is .... the author of DigHandler, a

> software which makesreading and other handling of

> postings to the Digest very easy

> andstraightforward. However, I was disappointed to

> hear the other day that Rolfhas very few

> registered users of DigHandler. >>

> Does it work on S7, S5 & Revo screens?

Hi Alan and all Psionies

"DigHandler" makes easier and faster to read, save and reply to digest mails(shareware)

"RepEvMail" makes easier and faster to reply to both single and digest mails(freeware)

Both programs work on PSION 5 / 5 mx / 5mxPro / 7 / NetBook / Ericsson MC218/ Revo / Mako and handle all YahooGroup's and Epoc Digests; RepEvMailadditionally all single mails.

More details on my b.m. URL

See you at my homepage

Best Regards

RolfMunich

http://home.arcor.de/rhvonau/index.htm

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Date: 24/11/2002 12:35:56 pm

From: "Marcus von Cube"

Subject: vCard export to Palm

Nishy:

I used the infrared link to send the contacts to the Palm. But there aresome problems:

1.) Palm does not accept private & business adresses. The last seems to win.So if yo have a complete private address and just the business phone number,all you get is just the business phone number. The private address doesn'tmake it :-(

2.) I had added a field to my contacts, as a copy of one of the businessaddress fields (I forgot which I used). When importing this a vCard to thePalm (PalmOS 3.51 on an m105) tha palm

crashed :-(

So I did it in three steps:

1.) Export all records to one vCard file.

2.) Edit the file to get rid of all records starting with X-EPOC which areextensions defined by Psion. I checked for business/private adresses anddecided manually which to use by deleting

the other.

3.) Send the complete (edited) file to the Palm. You need either Ir-Softwareon the PC or an IrOBEX compliant program on your Psion (plBeam, cBeam).

You can probably import the edited file into Palm Desktop as well. I didn'ttry that.

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

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Date: 24/11/2002 12:47:51 pm

From: "Marcus von Cube"

Subject: C-Compile

Alberto:

why not post the source somewhere on the net and tell the people here whereto find it?

Assembly doesn't work out on the Psion because it runs a different processor(ARM, not x86). I'm interested in the program (complete with assembly) but Idon't know yet whether I can port it to EPOC. I'd like to do it but I do notwant to make any promises. (Send the complete source and make files to mye-mail if you can't post it elsewhere).

If your program is a command line tool, you'll need eshell.exe to run it.This is a free utility from Symbian. To compile your program, the C/C++ SDKis neccessary. The SDK runs on the PC

only but it creates runnable objects for the EPOC platform.

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

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Date: 24/11/2002 12:49:13 pm

From: Philip Adkins Potter

Subject: Software Morality

Hi,

Henri Spagnolo mentioned copyright. I only know about British law, and notmuch at that, but I do know that copyright lapses under it (except for theplay "Peter Pan"). I know the time involved is many years but the*principle* is that the rights lapse some time after the author's death (ordisappearance - Ambrose Bierce for example). The author's estate owns theserights meanwhile, I think.

If this is to be translated to the rather ephemeral world of software thetime involved becomes almost meaningless unless it is reduced to a practicalmaximum. Please note that I am still not referring to software whose ownercan be effectively found (if they choose to ignore communication they cannotbe effectively found in my opinion). Their wishes regarding their softwaremust be respected.

ER5 manufacturing is, almost certainly, effectively dead. ER5 softwaredevelopment will certainly follow it. Some software authors have alreadyapparently disappeared but their software is still available (TUCOWS, etc.).Some of it is effectively unusable if not registered but it cannot beregistered.

Henri's example of books is well-taken but when copyright lapses anyone cancopy it by any means, distribute it by any means and advertise that service.ER5 software will be free of copyright protection, but after ER5 machineshave all succumbed and so will probably be useless. Obviously there are noconsumer rights involved if money doesn't change hands (I know some disagreebut I'm being practical here).

The problem is not the legality as the only person entitled to complainlegally is the author who here is, by definition, effectively untraceable.The problem is moral. I think it has to be a personal decision as with allmatters concerning morality but I do hope no-one gets ripped off. As far asI can tell no-one here wants that to happen.

Itamar's personal feelings probably reflect the general feelings on this.Speaking as someone who cannot write such useful software as we'rediscussing, I think this question can only be answered individually.

Take care,

Phil.

"To stay young requires unceasing cultivation

of the ability to unlearn old falsehoods."

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Date: 24/11/2002 7:53:00 pm

From: Tony Napier

Subject: USB GIrBIL and EPOC Release 5

Perhaps you need cross platform infra red software. I have used plbeam fromdatamind, download from "http://www.datamind.co.uk/merchant/plBeamv1_10.zip" as I could not get a Cpen to transfer files by ir to a psion

Tony Napier

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Date: 24/11/2002 10:18:59 pm

From: Mike McConnell

Subject: USB GIrBIL; 6310i and faxing;

To: andy nott

<>

No, because Windows XP supports IrOBEX protocol and the Psions supportIrCOMM. You need to install something like "plBeam" in the Psions

http://pda.tucows.com/epoc/preview/168343.html You won't, however, be ableto run PsiWin over IR with Windows XP.

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To: Kevin Collins

<<I reported recently that I was able to fax successfully

with my 6310i and 5mx combination. Well, due to a fault in the phone, Ireceived a replacement, and this one sends the first page *twice* eachtime>>

By changing from IR to cable I managed to send a "readable" fax whichalmost finished the first page before failing! I may try hard resetting andjust setting up phone/fax details and see if that is any more successful.Others with the same firmware version as me don't seem to have a problem.

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To: Itamar Engelsman

<<Re: USB GIrBIL - Sorry I can't help you with the problem. However, AFAIKthe 5MX, S7 and Revo all use the same serial lead>>

Not the Revo - it connects only via the docking cradle.

Regards,

Mike [Dundee, Scotland]__________________________________________

Mobile Phone & SMS: +44 (0)7870 236984

Mobile Fax: +44 (0)7977 156138

Web: http://www.mikemcc.net__________________________________________

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Date: 24/11/2002 11:59:46 pm

From: Itamar

Subject: Tom Tom Cityplanner,Shareware, Digest program,

Tom Tom issued a new version of Cityplanner with over 240,000 cities inEurope. I am not sure whether the program was updated as well or just themaps, their website does not mention it. I don't know as yet either whetherthere is an upgrade version for sale as well or that one has to buy the fullprogram again.

If anyone has got more info, please share it with us.

Answer to: Steve Hodgson

Re. Shareware - As per above, there is still one peace of software updated<G>. Yes, the situation will of course get worse, and sooner or later wewill all have to make a choice of updating. However, for some this will bevery soon, for others a long time away (having bought several units in orderto hold out as long as possible). I traveled this week in Europe, and usedmy S7 in meetings. All people I met were impressed by the small unit withthe large battery life, and it is still unbelievable why they failed tomarket it properly.

Answer to: Alan R Morris

Re. Digest program - This program is not to answer to the digest. It is aprogram we use to run this digest, which will not be of use to anyone unlessthey want to run a digest themselves or manage a large number of subscribersto something. As to the URL, it is up to each participant to mention the URLof products they mention or not.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

The Epoc Digest Team

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Date: 25/11/2002 4:12:54 am

From: "Morphett, Andrew"

Subject: Web on Mako

Kevin asked;

<Andrew, thanks very much for that. I am apparently one of the fewwhoprefer Opera to Web, but for size reasons would prefer Web on my Mako.WhenI tried to install (or run? i cannot recall now) about a year ago, I amsureI received a message to the effect that the Mako did not support theWebapplication. Are you saying that if I go ahead and install, and changethefile properties as above, that Web will actually run on the

Mako?>

Kevin,

Yes. I also prefer Opera (on S7) but have never been able to clearsufficient space on my Mako to allow it to run. But Web does run OK (aftermany unsuccessful attemps I heard of the trick with the system 'read only'file, I think from the newsgroup). I am sure it will work for you also.

Andrew Morphett

Geelong, Australia

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Date: 25/11/2002 8:48:02 am

From: Jorge Ramos

Subject: Re: Zenobyte

On 21/11/2002 "Gary Y Reyes" Subject: Zenobyte NotResponding wrote: "Been posting questions to Zenobyte using the emailaddress indicated in their website. But have not gotten any response. /Anyone with a specific name and email address that I can contact?"

i ermailed them a few weeks back with a query and atfirst received an automated reply frbut laterreceived a more personal response vfrom SteveWaddicor, Senior Software Engineer.

Regards,

Jorge Ram

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Date: 25/11/2002 10:20:32 am

From: Andy Hayes

Subject: Shareware Again

Its a shame that if authors aren't going to maintain their sharewareofferings they don't just do what Steve Lichfield did with the PsiMapperrange of software. He just made it freeware. A generous gesture indeed! Ihave the same sort of attitude with things laying around the house gatheringdust - give it to someone who would appreciate it.

Andy Hayes

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Date: 25/11/2002 10:33:15 am

From: "Keith Clarke"

Subject: Re: Holidays & temporary unsubscribe

The new wheeze for cutting down the number of 'our of office' messagessounds brilliant. This Digest becomes more and more impressive.

Keith Clarke

_________________________________________________________________

Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8.

http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Date: 25/11/2002 10:59:41 am

From: Darryl Kempster

Subject: International Phone prefixes

I'm running a netBook with ROM version 158 and having problems dialling outof some countries. In Goteburg the other day and Email kept inserting a 9into the number dialled when I was trying to connect to the net via myEnglish ISP. Had to go into World and edit the country details to change theinternational prefix from 009 to just 00. Still didn't work but today inStockholm and the 9 has disappeared so guess it had to reset or something.Had this before somewhere else but can't remember what country. Gonna be inFinland tomorrow and World gives me 990 as the international prefix! So notsure if gonna have to edit that again or not but thought it was 00 whereveryou went now.

EPOC Email Program - Version 2.00(518) dated 1998-99 so I guess Psion neverbothered to update their database. Unless it's just my machine! Anyone knowif there is a patch for this or do ZI have to check each country in turn?

Darryl

On tour with Danzig

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Date: 25/11/2002 2:52:09 pm

From: Jan R Gustafsson

Subject: Re: Re: Epoc Digest and DigHandler sw

Alan Morris wrote at 22/11/2002 11:15:43 pm inEPOC DIGEST V1 # 115 wrote:-

> It would be much better if details of this 'Digest

> specific' app were postedto the Digest, then maybe

> more would know about it, evaluate it and

> thenregister it.

I agree:

Try Rolf Vonau's DigHandler

web: http://home.arcor.de/rhvonau/dighandlere.htm

e-Mail: rh.vonau

Regards,

Jan G

Stockholm, Sweden

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Date: 25/11/2002 3:22:12 pm

From: Astrid Stappenbeck

Subject: Re:Re: MenuS5 limitations / Morality

From: "Henri Spagnolo" Subject: Re: MenuS5limitations / Morality

To: Henri

>The only limitation of MenuS5 is the fact that you can't remove or move anentry or rename a page. I am sorry, but these limitations does not affect inany case how the program works. This is a choice, some programers do preferto give only 15 or 30 days, other like me prefer to have a program that'swork without time limitations.<

This limitation is indeed no problem if you understand under evaluation justfinding out how a program works. My idea of evaluation is testing it ineveryday-use. I have almost never managed to get the setup perfect at firsttime. But your app requires the user to do just that - and doesn't evenmentions it before it's too late. That might not affect the way the programworks but the way the user works with the program. As said in my previousposting: Extrabars e.g. neither has a time limit, just one on the number ofbars available. You can toggle, rename and remove entries as often as youlike - find a setup that suits you and fully evaluate the program in dailyuse. That kind of limitation allows a far more practical test.-

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

>Concerning Morality, you give an example of an Euro or a wallet you find,and I will agree with what you do with it, but I am sorry, in term ofsoftware they are under the COPYRIGHT protection. I can't understand why youwant absolutely to register a software which has been abandonned. If a bookis not available anymore, will you photocopy it to make it available toeverybody?<

No, I have no intention to make it available to everybody, just as I have nointention to make abandoned software available to everybody. But if somebodyhas tried to get hold of a particular program or book and couldn't get itbecause it is no longer available on the market, then I most definitely willtry to be of help. Either by sending an unrestricted version of the program,or it's code or a copied issue of the book. (And I won't loose any sleepover copyright issues.) Even if stuff is abandoned or out of print theremight still be good reason to look for it. Newer items might have differentsystem requirements, use more memory, have differnt faetures. Should we allthrow our psions away in a couple of years because the selling andmaintenance of (semi-)commercial software has become unprofitable?

The software or books we're talking about are no longer advertised, newproducts or editions are probably widely available and marketed instead. Ifsomebody still finds it necessary to look for this particular old stuff,searching the net or second hand stores, posting helpcalls in forums and thelike - in short: puts so much effort to it, then I won't just shrug myshoulders and give a "Tough on you!"

>What you maybe forget, is the fact that even if an author has removed hisweb page, the program is still present somewhere on Internet or on some CDs,so what can he do. In any case, you have no rights on this software withoutthe author agreement.<

I have no intention to make a profit out of it or widely publicise the(unrestricted) software. So morally I will be on the safe site. Apart fromthat: I thoroughly admit that I have less respect for property rights assome others. In the constitution of my country (Germany) is an article thatnot only protects the right of the owner to his property but also statesthat there is a public aspect to it as well: a kind of societal restrictionwhich gives the community some rights as well (it is unfornunately not oftenenough applied).

Some examples to show the absurdity of unrestricted property rights:There are pharmaceutical companies who have developed medication that couldsave or lengthen the lives of people - but it doesn't because by theunconditional recognition of the copyrights and therefore marketing autonomymakes it unavailable for millions in need (Fortunately India and Brazildon't take part in such nonsense).

Patents have been issued to plants and animals that have been geneticallyengineered (not on the procedure but on the product!)

Ludwig II of Bavaria who had build the castles of Neuschwanstein and otherfairy tale ones (which each year attract millions of visitors from all overthe world) had left a will in which he ordered that all his constructionswere to be demolished after his death. His heirs thought better of it andjust honoured his property not his rights to it.

Software might be a minor issue but I am a strong believer in the publicdomain in all fields of life.

I hope I have not strayed to far of the topic...

Astrid

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Date: 25/11/2002 3:36:18 pm

From: "Hoffman, Susan"

Subject: Psion won't close

To Pat Hopper, whose 5 won't close. Probably the flange at the left side ofthe keyboard has slipped out from underneath the base plate. The best wayto get it back (this takes three hands sometimes) is to use something longand thin (like a letter opener) to ease the flange away from the base platewhile you slide the keyboard back by closing the unit. What you are tryingto do is flip the flange back under the base plate, sort of like putting ona shoe. Once you've done it once, it gets easier.

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:43:42 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Sendo dumping MS & licensing Symbian

Dear Simon,

<< Having read the press releases from Sendo & Nokia regarding Sendo'sdramatic switch from MS Smartphone 2002 to Symbian, I notice that they donot say what actually caused it (other than a 'strategy' review) >>

Sendo will have a few things to settle with Microsoft, meaning overtime forits legal staff. The instruction is then to keep silent about the realissues as what you say can be used against you when the 'divorce' has to besettled in court.

<>

Any company worth its salt will keep regular reviews during productdevelopment. Not only to check where you are in the development process butalso to check what the market situation is for the new product. Changes inmarket conditions can make it advisable to stop development. Even whenyou're (very) close to product release because the release implies along-term commitment to your resellers and the consumers who bought it.

<< It sounds more like some politics or 'dirty dealing' has been going on... Facts or opinions are welcome but please be clear which you are giving>>

Note that a joint development always has a strong political side to it. Bothparties want something from the other party which is achieved by diplomacyas well as horse trading.

Facts

There aren't that many hard facts on what happened during Z100 development.Sendo kept fairly quiet, it was Microsoft that did most of the talking. Whathas come out is that there were regular disputes between Microsoft and Sendodevelopers. There was even talk of some disputes having the character of abare-knuckle fight. Reason given was that the software specification wasregularly changed, almost on a monthly basis. It has also been mentionedthat Sendo needed to do much more development work itself than wasoriginally planned. Sendo people mentioned to The Register's Andrew Orlowskithat 50% of the Z100 software was Sendo's own. Take a 'no smoke withoutfire' stance and it's not surprising that the Z100 launch was delayed anddelayed again. Nor surprising that the software development kits becameavailable at a very late stage. And when you make the blunder of the SDKsexpiring on September 30th you're not making friends within the third-partydeveloper community.

Opinion

Microsoft made a number of mistakes when it decided to tackle the market forsmartphone software. The main reason why it didn't succeed is that Microsoftgrew up with the PC and followed its PC business model. This made it illequipped to handle the cooperation with mobile phone integrators. Itproduced a lot of hype but couldn't 'supply the goods' to Sendo which had todelay the Z100 time and time again.

This left Sendo to do quite a lot of work on a smartphone with aspecification that started to become outdated. Bluetooth wouldn't have beena standard feature but supplied in the form of an add-on. There's no nativeMMS support in Pocket PC Smartphone Edition while the first camera equippedMMS phones are on the market and networks are starting to sell MMS services.That Orange launched the HTC designed SPV before Sendo's Z100 will have beena slap in the face for a company Microsoft had always presented as itssmartphone spearhead and launching integrator.

I think the final conclusion was that Microsoft could no longer be trustedas a reliable development partner.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:43:50 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: 9210 battery life, successor tothe present model

Arent,

<< Unfortunately , it looks as if the 9210i/9290 is the end of the line thesuccessor is likely to become the 68** series >>

This doesn't make any sense at all. There's no 'one size fits all' when itcomes to mobile phones. Nokia has a wide product range to cover the diverseinterests of the various mobile phone users. The new 6800 is for a group ofpeople who don't need all the functionality of a 92xx but do like to have akeyboard for ease of SMS/MMS/e-mail message entry.

<< no ability to run native Symbian applications

The 6800 supports J2ME (Java to Mobile Edition) allowing Java application tobe downloaded to the 6800. The four standard applications (Coverter II,Portfolio Manager, Triple Pop and Bounce) can be used removed and replaced.A Java word processor could thus be added to the 6800.

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:43:54 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Nokia 6210

Dear Keith,

<< ...can I ask whether anyone else has found this model dodgy for keeping aconnection, both for voice and data calls? >>

I've used each and every GSM900/1800 Nokia since the 2110 and have rarelyhad problems with them losing a connection. There have been times when Iused one without any signal bar on the display, the operator name being theonly sign that it had a link, and made calls, exchanged e-mails, etc. I'vechecked magazine reviews of the 6120 and can't anything extraordinary intheir test measurements. The 6120 performed well in signal tests. The 6120'splanar antenna isn't as sensitive as the external antenna of some otherphones. But my experience is that when it has a signal it hangs onto it likea limpet.

Given that your 6120 has been away for repairs for six weeks I think thetime has long passed for Carphone Warehouse to replace it by another 6120,to trade it for another model or to give your money back. The 6120 you haveisn't "fit for purpose" according UK consumer protection legislation.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:43:58 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Laptop connectivity

Dear Christopher,

<< can anyone advise on Psion connectivity from small laptops which areoften lacking a serial port? >>

There are serial RS232C port adaptors in PC-Card and CF card format. It'sthus no problem to add an RS232C port to these laptops. You may have tosearch a bit for these cards as they're not standard fare.

<< is it possible to use Psiwin over an infrared connection to Windows XP >>

Both Yes and No. Psion has always said that PsiWin doesn't support infraredlinks because the software wasn't written with infrared in mind. Some peoplehave had no problems with infrared connections, others struggled for daysand had to give up.

Windows 2000 and XP have the additional hurdle that Microsoft withdrewserial IrCOMM support. There's a third-party driver which restores thefunction but results have been mixed.

<< ... I think I have read about port replicators - do these connect to aUSB port and does anyone have experience of using one to connect to a Psion?>>

There are two types of port replicator. One that's supplied by themanufacturer of the laptop and plugs into the laptop's docking connector.These tend to work well as a set of pins on the docking connector form anRS232C port that's wired to a standard RS232C plug on the port replicator.

The second type is actually a convertor, turning an USB port into an RS232Cone. These require a driver, creating a virtual COM port on the PC thatredirects the data via the USB port. Their success in combination withPsiWin is mixed - I understand that Keyspan's adaptors tend to work well.

<< Is purchase of the external CD-ROM and floppy drives compulsory >>

As the vast majority of Windows software is supplied on CD-ROM I'd say thatthe term 'optional extra' is a misnomer in this case.

<< I'm still interested in the oqo concept ... >>

The OQO is nice when you carry it between a monitor and keyboard at theoffice and a monitor and keyboard at home. The problem is that the majorityof Windows software is no longer written with the OQO's screen size in mind.Working with an OQO while on the move will thus be a less than pleasantexperience.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:44:03 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: America

Dear Darryl,

<< Also could anyone stateside fill me in on the way mobile phones work overthere? >>

The same as over here - you enter the number - press connect - hear somebodytalking - start to talk yourself. <G>

<>

You can use the SIM card you already have as your network operator will haveroaming agreements with US based GSM network operators. The networks ofthese US operators tend to cover more than one state though you shouldn'texpect to get same dense network coverage as in Europe.

Getting a SIM card for a US network will be a bit complicated as no US GSMoperator has nationwide network coverage. You need to check network coverageand roaming agreements against the list of places you're going to visit.While pre-pay cards tend not to offer the same level of services as Europeanpre-pay schemes. I'm afraid you'll have to reckon with spending a day onfinding out what's possible and selecting the right network.

In case you'd like to do some background reading, go to the web site of theGSM MoU Association which (from memory) is www.gsmworld.org.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:44:08 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: America

Dear Caspar,

<< The US, as far as I know, does not even have SIM cards in the phones >>

SIM cards are part and parcel of the GSM standard. As there are a number ofGSM networks in the US, with several million subscribers, there certainlyare SIM cards in US phones.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:44:10 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Psion Marketing in North America

Dear Jim,

<< << The present population of the EU is about 380 million. The populationof the US is about 288 million ... >>

I was using "North America" in the traditional sense of America plus Canadarather than the NAFTA area. Not many Europeans consider Mexico as a part ofNorth America. Note that Poland, the Czech Republic and other former easternblock countries aren't European Community members yet. Some of them areexpected to join the EC in 2004, a few others will have to wait till 2007 or2009.

The reason why I mentioned the EC as the larger market is that I read thereport of a study on people's spending power around the globe. The studylooked at average wages, tax levels and what 'Joe Public' needs to spend onfood, clothing, housing, medical insurance, etc. It was found that ECcitizens' spending power is higher than that of people in North America.Now, I don't know whether that's NAFTA or America plus Canada as I read thereport a few months ago and no longer have a copy.

<< You weren't here during the period that Psion, HP, and Sharp were thedominant PDA makers so I suspect you're making an assumption >>

I've been a fairly regular visitor to the US and my first visits were duringPsion's Series 3a/3c era. I've therefore been able to compare what was in USstores compared to Europe. Note that I didn't say Psion was hardly presentin the US but that it didn't have a strong presence. Market reports clearlyindicated that HP, Sharp and Psion had their strongest presence in theirhome area. What US people wrote in CompuServe's Psion Forum and the Psionnewsgroups underlined this.

<< Psion failed to recognize the threat that the Palm presented and theSiena was a belated (and failed) attempt to meet that threat >>

The Siena appeared shortly after the first Palm Pilot (and at a time whenthe Pilot was a US-only phenomenon). I therefore consider them to beconceived around the same period. Note that It can be argued that Palm andPsion weren't true competitors because their products were aimed at adifferent type, or class, of handheld computer user.

<< Ah, but this is where Psion could have had an impact. It had already lostthe "simplicity" battle to the Palm but the horrible initial Win CE H/PC'spresented a golden opportunity to show an H/PC form factor that reallyworked >>

Which if fine, but you still need a podium on which to perform and dazzlethe public. What happened to Psion was that major US retailers removed Psionfrom their shop shelves in order to make space for the Windows CE H/PCs.Psion simply didn't have the same clout as newcomer Compaq, for example,because of it's much slimmer product range. When the Compaq PC Companionproved to be a dud the damage was already done. Psion's products were offretailers shelves and the company couldn't get them on again. The H/PCs wereremoved from shop shelves and their vacant places were filled by the newWindows CE P/PCs.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:44:19 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Question about Revo

Dear Antonio,

<< Is it true that they are out of production?? >>

They've been out of production for about 16 months now.

<< In the range, in your opinion, the 5 mx means a great improvement?? Theywill go on production?? >>

The Series 5mx is also out of production. The final batch of 1,000 units wasproduced two months ago.

<< Do you think that the internal memory of Revo can be increased ? >>

Check out www.pda-upgrade.20m.com

<< Please, a good site to dowload freeware a financial program ... >>

The Tucows (www.tucows.com) or Revo World (www.revoworld.com) sites.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:44:22 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Siemens, Series 5, Virgin/Tiscali

Dear Tony,

<< Is anyone using the above setup succesfully? >>

Sorry, I'm not into mind reading - which Siemens mobile phone are youtalking about?

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:44:25 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Using S7 in the car

Dear Itamar,

<< Does anyone use his (her) S7 in the car in combination with a GPS ? Ifso, how did you solve the problem of attaching it securely ? >>

Quite simple - I placed the Series 7 on the passenger seat and used thesafety belt.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:44:29 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Breaking in

Dear Itamar,

<< You said it yourself. To start up as a "me too" product is easier, but tointroduce a totally new system not compatible with other machines is a lotharder >>

That's an oversimplication, I'm afraid. The launch of a new 'me-too' PocketPC or a new Symbian OS based Psion has it's 'easy' and 'difficult' aspects.

The design of a new me-too Pocket PC is easy because you can go to one ofthe Korean or Taiwanese OEM companies who'll do the job for you. Thedifficulty is that you end up with a product that's no different from theproducts of five or six Pocket PC competitors, except in the minor details.This greatly reduces the options you have for positioning your Pocket PC inthe market because of a lack of real customer benefits. Price will have tobe the major factor. Trouble is that it's easily countered by thecompetition lowering their prices.

The new Symbian OS based Psion is more difficult to design as you'll have todo the job yourself. Manufacturing can be outsourced to the same Korean orTaiwanese OEMs. Positioning the new Psion will be easier because you havemore freedom to decide on specification and performance. You can exploitgeneric Pocket PC weaknesses, for example. It also gives you more freedom todecide on the price point of the new Psion. The difficulty is in finding theright specification-price combination. However, once you've defined thecombination you also have the means to clearly say "That's what they do -This is what we do - These are the benefits".

As for compatibility, software isn't portable between the Symbian OS, PocketPC, PalmOS and Linux PDA operating systems. Vendors face the same softwarecompatibility hurdle when they want to attract customers from another OScamp. The new Symbian OS based Psion will have it relatively easier in thisrespect as it's (a) more distinctive and (b) the me-too Pocket PC faces muchstronger competition from within the Pocket PC camp. The supply of some formof PDA to Psion data migration tool will be beneficial, of course. Note thatit's the inter-camp rivalry which also makes it more difficult for theme-too to get the person who wants to change Pocket PC device.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:44:34 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Marketing of Psion in US

Dear Susan,

<>

That's not the case - the many message from Europeans who link their phoneswith a Psion can be misleading. Fact is that you can link any mobile phonethat behaves towards the Psion as if it were a modem. Several US phonemodels do so but their number is much smaller compared to Europe. It's alsotrue that the majority of US models are linked via cable as only a fractionis equipped with an IrDA serial infrared interface. While the number of USphones with a wireless Bluetooth is tiny. I only know one US model comparedto several European Bluetooth phones.

<< If Psion had been able to market internet connectivity with the apparentease that you folks on the right side of the Atlantic enjoy, I think thingsmight have been very different >>

Psion did refer to wireless connectivity in it's promotional material forthe US market. What's different in the US is the network fragmentation withdigital CDMA, TDMA, GSM and iDEN plus the old analog AMPS systems competingwith each other. This doesn't make it easy for the consumer to find theright solution.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:44:40 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Ser.7 and Revo/ Mako

Dear Paul,

<< do you have to charge the Revo every day >>

In one word : No. I tend to use my Revo for 'lighter' work and recharge itonce every five days on average.

<< do frequent EpocSync conversions between the 7 and the Revo? >>

Only when I switch Psion.

<< Which one do you use as a "master", and which do you sync to the PC? >>

I don't synchronise with a PC at all. The PC is only used for data backuppurposes.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:44:45 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: NOKIA 6210e

Dear Peter,

<>

The 6210e is a slightly modified 6210 Nokia produced for UK network operatorOrange.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:44:47 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest and DigHandler sw

Dear Jan,

<>

All I can say is that I tried out another application Rolf Vonau mentionedto me. I think it was called RepEvMail and the mention came as the result ofan exchange with Digest staff.

I installed RepEvMail on two of my Psions plus the Ericsson but couldn't getit to work at all. Simple reason was that the documentation mentioned youcould do a range of things without telling you how you're supposed to dothem. You can define a hot-key, for example, but it's not clear at all whenyou should use the hot-key for RepEvMail to do its job. I therefore removedRepEvMail from my machines after one hour of trial and failure.

I'm afraid my judgement of applications like RepEvMail and their developersis a harsh one. Such applications are in no state to be released to thegeneral public - they're junk bytes. And the developer who does release suchan application comes on my "No software by ..." list.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25/11/2002 9:44:50 pm

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: ER3/5 programs

Dear Philip,

<< What do readers think about the morality of one or more of the moreexpert working to crack the registration codes of those programs whoseauthors have disappeared? >>

Software is considered to be intellectual property and covered by copyrightlegislation. This gives the developer legal ownership of the software(s)he's created for a minimum statutory period. The developer has the rightto license the duplication, distribution during this period as well as theuse of the software.

The licensing conditions for shareware applications includes the consent bythe developer of the free duplication and distribution of a demonstrationversion of the software. What the demonstration version consists of is forthe developer to decide. This under the condition that the software isregistered (and paid for) after a maximum trial period. In other words, ashareware developer waives his/her rights to charge for duplication anddistribution for as long as a single condition is met.

The developer also has the right under copyright law to withdraw his/hersoftware from distribution at any point in time. Given the nature ofshareware this means withdrawing the supply of registration codes. Adeveloper is free to pass on the rights to his/her application (for a fee)to another party when (s)he decides to close shop. The developer is alsofree to waive all rights and release the application as freeware in thiscase. Though it's advisable for a developer to take the freeware route it'snot mandatory for a developer to do so.

When you therefore have the demonstration version but can no longer contactthe developer you'll need to check whether the application is covered bycopyright. When that's the case, you're bound by the licensing conditionsbecause the application is still owned by the developer. You're able to usethe demonstration version for the duration of the trial period - and that'sit.

I trust some will say "That's the legal position - how about the moralposition?". Well ... that's easy to answer because the law embodies ourcommon moral and ethical standpoints. The United Nations' universaldeclaration of human rights mentions that people have the right to enjoy thefruits of their labour. Copyright protection ensures that a softwaredeveloper has the means to ensure the financial compensation for his/herintellectual work.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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