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Epoc Digest Tue, 17 Dec 2002 Volume 01 : Number 127

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In today's Epoc Digest 25 messages:

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- Re: Allegro for Revo

- MXpro # 126

- MacConnect

- Re : 5mx Pro; Re: Opening unknown filetypes; Re : Multiclips; Context1.1 macro.

- Psion repair

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 126

- 'E' drive usage, networking

- Psion mail folders

- Re:Translations for Psion Commander

- TomTom # 126

- Problem with Contacts and Spell,

- Email problem solved; Nokia 7650 & 5mx

- X-mas

- 486 PC with CD-RW

- Re: macro for opening any file in an Editor

- Re: Satellite tracking software.

- GPRS functionality, S5mx PRO ROM image, S5mx screen cable.

- BCC and ISPs

- Re: scanning with digital camera

- Re: Morality & Shareware

- netWorked netBook - Finally

- Re: CF Memory for Psion 5mx

- Copying in netBook

- RMRNews - Messages out of order

- 5mx pro

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Date: 15 Dec 2002 21:52:54 +0000

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: Allegro for Revo

Michael Przondzion wrote:-

<<Not even one answer within 48 hours! >>

Widget sent me their recent mailing, but there is nothing interesting for Psion users.

Their price list does however have:-

EPSH0205 Revo Guide + AllegroClassic bundle £17.61

Is this what you are looking for?

www.widget.co.uk

08450 550005

Widget UK Ltd.

FREEPOST

121 London Road

Knebworth

Herts.

SG3 6BR

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion 7 & Nokia 6210e

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Date: 15 Dec 2002 22:37:46 +0000

From: vlad arghir

Subject: MXpro # 126

> EpocDigest wrote:

> netbook onto a 5mx pro, that way you could get an english machine and an > upgraded os! Anyone fancy trying?

If this is of any help to anyone:

I installed a German system on a 5 without problems - just stuck the 16MB original CF inbo it, apps installed - the 5 has less buttons, though. I didn't experiment long, but it seemed to work, so I'd suggest that you can install ANYthing on a 5mx-pro?

best,

vlad

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Date: 15 Dec 2002 22:55:32 +0000

From: "Caspar Lam"

Subject: MacConnect

Does anyone know where I could find MacConnect for my Revo Plus?

Thanks!

Caspar

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Date: 16 Dec 2002 00:32:03 +0000

From: J.

Subject: Re : 5mx Pro; Re: Opening unknown filetypes; Re : Multiclips; Context1.1 macro.

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Hello to all,

Subject: 5mx Pro

To: Darryl Kempster

<I always wondered if it would have been possible to install the <flash ROM from a netbook onto a 5mx pro, that way you could <get an english machine and an upgraded os! Anyone fancy trying?

If only I can get an English mxPro I would try... even if doubting about the result

Subject RE: Opening unknown filetypes

TO: Astrid Stappenbeck who answered to U Hornstein :

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

<There is an application or rather a plugin for PsiLoc called plOpen which lets you choose which application is to open a certain filetype. ,,,,,,,

>I had set it to ASK, ,,,,,

> The unregistered demo-version allows only one added filetype-application pair. I did not register the application because it stopped to work: when I tried to launch a file it remained silent.

,,,,,

>after a hard reset I tried it again and it worked (for a

while).

,,,,,,

>Maybe others have more luck with this program.>

Re : I did, after registering Plopen many months ago;

BTW it's that kind of softReg that works on one machine only <G>

I too had to reinstall it twice before it worked OK except for its own icon beeing an "?" ! (disappearance? of an orignal icon)

So far Plopen made my nB free from lengthy irritating conflicts ie between Navigator and RMRpsiZip, Web and Opera and between my (too many %-) ebooks readers.

But back to U Hornstein query:

>I (and many of you too) have need for a Macro5 that acts like this:

>1) On system screen, being in any directory of any drive, mark the file of interest. >2) Call the macro (or as an app, I do not care).

>3) The marked file is opened in the Symbian Text editor or in another (Hex) editor.

RE: Context1.1 macro from Mario Collado or P. Nicolas macros pages does something like this via its "send" options (and much more... toprint, tofax, tozip, toclipboard as path, compact, scan...)

Context is one of my favorite macro (and I loaded hundreds of them

%-).

Subject : Multiclip

To: Itamar Engelsman who discussed :

RE :

Yes The "old" Multiclip1.00 from Pascal Nicolas site (thanks again forever Pascal) is still going strong.

And recently Huub reminded us that the last version of it's ExAb has a similar function.

Jack

ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸ Nice Xmas to All ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø

All my outgoing messages being sent by a Psion machine are thus virus-free guaranteed and need *not* to be checked by any anti-virus/worm/bacteria.

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Date: 16 Dec 2002 04:35:53 +0000

From: Tanaya

Subject: Psion repair

John Wellock wrote:

Could somebody offer me any advice on where to send it for repair, POS Ltd or the Psion repair centre. Which is the best place? any recommendations, not too bothered about price or time taken to repair as long as it's a good job!

A couple of month ago I had my Psion 5mx repaired (screen cable defect) by the Psion representative in Singapore, as Psion is not represented in Indonsia (anymore) . The result so far is excellent. The repair was done quickly, although they informed me (When I already had send the machine) that no screen was available at that moment. I never tried the Psion Service in the Netherlands, only their helpdesk, on which I gave up after a couple of times due to their miserable service. It seemed to me that I was always connected to somebody in Bombay or Calcutta (no offence intended to India !)

Also some month ago I requested POS Ltd to do the same repair for my Psion 3a, as "Singapore" does not repair this model anymore. When I received the machine back, the screen was repaired and (although not requested) the keys were renewed.

Unfortunately the machine did not start on batteries anymore. POS Ltd asked me to send the machine back and the re-repaired it. I had to pay a considerable amount of money for the sending of my machine from Indonesia

to Great Britain, for the second time. Although POS Ltd agreed to refund my transport costs, until today I did not receive any refund.

Bernard Olij

Dau, Indonesia

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Date: 16 Dec 2002 07:02:20 +0000

From: "Huub Linthorst"

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 126

>From: Itamar Engelsman

>Subject: Multiclip

>Some time ago we discussed programs to effect multiple copying >of data instead of the standard "Copy" and "Paste" function. We >only found the program "Cocopapa" or something like that that >copies and pastes multiple texts in the same order only.

>Today I found on the website of Tucows the macro Multiclip, which >allows you to copy multiple texts. When pasting it gives you a >choice of the texts you copied to paste in the order you want to. It >gives a total of 20 texts after which it will overwrite the oldest one, >but you can also delete texts from the list yourself. Definitely

>worth a try.

Hi Itamar,

ExAb does BOTH the CoCoPaPa AND the Multiclip type of Multiple copying ;-) Huub

___________________________________

Huub Linthorshttp://website.leidenuniv.nl/~linthorsthjm/exabetal/

ExAb, CodeSafe, S5mboles, SpellX and more

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Date: 16 Dec 2002 07:16:12 +0000

From: "Marcus von Cube"

Subject: 'E' drive usage, networking

Itamar,

>Re: ideas for the "E"drive ? - Sofar I did not read any other answers than using it for extra storage space. Is there anything else one can do with the E drive ?

I heve several PC cards that fit into the right netBook slot:

- Adaptors for CF card and SD/MMC. This is mainly for copying files. The netBook can handle the MMC from my Palm m130 and the CF cards from my Nikon digicam. Since I have a PC card

slot in my server and in my Thinkpad, I can easily copy files back and forth. I use one CF for (not very regular) backups of C.

- Voyager VGA (mainly for playing around). I had planned to use it for presentations via beamer

but Presentation Maker does not have a "presentation mode", so I'm still lacking some software

for my presentations.

- ELSA 56k modem (works perfectly).

- Psion Gold Card (Ethernet + Modem + ISDN). The ISDN part does not work (not enough power

to the slot?), the ethernet drivers and the modem definitely do work.

- Orinoco Wavelan II Gold. I can now surf the web from my living room! One problem with this

card is, that I can't get to the slot for the stylus while the card is plugged in :-(

I'm a geek and PC card collector and I try to make the cards work in different environments. The netBook is one of the simplest: Either it works from the beginning or not at all.

Regarding networking (Ethernet, WLAN): I'd like to have a small scale SMB server on my

netBook. Is anybody aware of an open source project which containes a mimimum SMB server?

As an alternative: an FTP server (not client!) on my netBook would help as well.

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

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Date: 16 Dec 2002 08:53:46 +0000

From: Jan R Gustafsson

Subject: Psion mail folders

Hi all!

Some weeks ago Itamar posted a question concerning tidying up the Psion e-mail folder. I did not see any response on the digest and as I have the same problem, I take the liberty to repeat Itamars question.

The e-mail folder seems very complicated as all folders and files are numbers only. Most of the folders are empty or have only 1 file called UIDLS. Is it possible to delete these empty folders or is there any other way to do some cleaning up without erasing the folder structure and e-mails? All suggestions are welcome! The reason for asking is of course the very long time back-up takes when you have many folders and files (which I do).

Best regards,

Jan G

Stockholm, Sweden

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Date: 16 Dec 2002 09:06:06 +0000

From: "Sergio"

Subject: Re:Translations for Psion Commander

On 12 Dec 2002 Wolfgang Golder wrote:

BTW: together with some people I am still developing a filemanager application (Psion Commander) which is able to launch many apps/files/orwhatever. Currently we are working on internationalisation. Is anybody interested in other languages than english or german. If yes, could she/he take over the translation in this language?

...

Anybody who is interested please contact me.

Hi Wolfgang

I'd be glad to translate it into Italian

Let me know!

Sergio Alisi

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Date: 16 Dec 2002 09:54:43 +0000

From: vlad arghir

Subject: TomTom # 126

> EpocDigest wrote:

> But this does not solve the maps problem.

Any solution to that?

Would be nice!

best

vlad

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Date: 16 Dec 2002 12:45:37 +0000

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Problem with Contacts and Spell,

Answer to: Aleck Cartwright

Re. Problem with Contacts and Spell - Did you copy all your files from the Revo to the 5MX ? If so, you probably copied the .ini files for both applications from the REVO as well. Go to \System\App\Spell and delete the .ini file, and do the same for contacts. If not, I don't know the answer.

To All: There are still Psions for sale on the UK site of Ebay at reasonably good prices. If you are looking for one, certainly worthwhile to check it out.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

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Date: 16 Dec 2002 16:53:51 +0000

From: c.byatt

Subject: Email problem solved; Nokia 7650 & 5mx

Hello again

It's some time since my last (rather negative!) posting - now feeling much better! Two good things to report:

a) for no apparent reason, my 5mx Email app is now working OK. After a couple of weeks or so, the problem I previously posted about (Digest #111 - message saying "overflow" just before all message headers had finished loading, and then freezing of the program) just went away. I still don't know what caused it (??ISP problem - Virgin [usually OK, but occasionally clunky]).

b) to celebrate a sort of promotion recently, I upgraded my Nokia 6210 to a 7650. The latter is a lovely piece of equipment and works very easily with the 5mx (using the same settings on the Psion for the 6210). Great toy! The WAP works well and I can also send emails direct from the 7650 if I want, though I don't much because then I can't archive messages with that great macro SaveMail (I archive all my messages in 20 different mailboxes on C drive for various home and work categories of message [total currently 1.7MB]; I then archive these each year on to my drive D CF card (increasing capacity to cope over the years, now at 256MB & half full, of which over 5MB is mailboxes).

This arrangement has proved the most flexible and reliable part of my e-communications over the past 5 years (alongside a work PC and home laptop each [or both] of which have caused problems from time to time). It still gives me a real buzz to write notes and email them out from the train before I get home on the journey back from meetings in London!

Two small annoyances:

- Phoneman Pro doesn't seem to work with the 7650 (5mx doesn't recognise the 7650 IR signal - I think a new standard) is there a way of getting round this? It would be good to be able to move pictures from the 7650 to the Psion on the hoof.

- having problems with my W2k laptop's IR port, so not yet able to get the phone to connect to that either! May have to get a Bluetooth card...

Sorry if a bit rambling.

Kit (enjoying my Psion again, & in better spirits!)

Hereford, UK

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Date: 16 Dec 2002 17:15:57 +0000

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: X-mas

With Christmas fast approaching, what Psion related present did you ask for or plan to buy yourself or for others ?

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

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Date: 16 Dec 2002 18:03:46 +0000

From: Christopher Marwood

Subject: 486 PC with CD-RW

This is way off-topic for which my apologies.

Would anyone be able to advise on the advisability or otherwise of trying to install an LG CED-8080B CD writer in an old Dell 486? It was a 486-33 but I upgraded it to 486-100. It has a massive :-) 32Mb RAM. The LG has been freed from my P3 by the purchase of a DVD+RW - a pretty good deal from Dixons/PCWorld at UK£200 at the moment..

Thanks for any advice,

Best wishes, Chris

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Date: 16 Dec 2002 21:40:34 +0000

From: "U. Hornstein"

Subject: Re: macro for opening any file in an Editor

Hi List,

thanks to all individuals (Astrid, Boudewijn, Wolfgang) who wrote about my problem. Every bit of Info helped.

To Wolfgang Golder:

>concerning your question in EpocDigest. Some

> time ago I had a similar problem.

>Try FgSystem: before calling

>CurrentFolder$:/CurrentFile$: - it solved the problem for me.

I tried it - a wrong folder name is the result.

However, the old Commander version does what I wanted. I tried to download your new version I get user error code 23 from my machine. Can you send it to me?

To Boudewijn:

QV5 can only view, but not edit. But it was the right direction.

To Astrid:

Your tip for Translauncher helped. I used some of the published code and have now a working macro. It is a bit slow and difficult to install, but it works.

Thanks to all.

If anyone needs it, I am happy to tell her/him how to proceed. But as it looks like, I will use the Commander (old or new) in future.

With greetings from Germany

Ulrich Hornstein

sent by MC218 (EPOC palmtop)

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Date: 16 Dec 2002 21:42:42 +0000

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: Satellite tracking software.

Owen H. Morgan wrote:-

<< I already got a spreadsheet that does the job admirably from another list member, but would still like to write a program to do it and perhaps automatically use the current GPS position if available .... if you could e-mail me the source code for the Basic program, I'd like to have that too. >>

Owen the Basic code will be sent direct when I can get it from a PC.

I used it to align my Sat TV dish at home without any problems. My plans were to also use the GPS to provide my position when out and about in a motorhome.

Has anyone been able to access the GPS engine that comes with Palmtop/TomTom software?

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 16 Dec 2002 22:01:25 +0000

From: Trygve Henriksen

Subject: GPRS functionality, S5mx PRO ROM image, S5mx screen cable.

Greetings all!

I was playing with an old Nokia at home when I got an idea...

I hooked up my Siemens phone to my netBook and started it downloading email using GPRS.

Then I dialled it from the other phone...

Wouldn't you know, the Siemens rang?

When I accepted the call, it parked the data transmission and went to voice, and when the voice call ended(only a few seconds later) the data transfer continued...

I didn't try to see how the Psion handled a prolonged voice call, though.

(Probably bombs totally) but it seemed stable enough for the 10-15 seconds I kept the voice call open.

I guess 'always on' can also mean the owner is 'always reachable'.

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Darryl Kempster wrote:

> I always wondered if it would have been possible to install the flash

> ROM from a netbook onto a 5mx pro, that way you could get an

> english machine and an upgraded os! Anyone fancy trying?

Have fun, TRY!

Just remember that the OS is customised to fit the hardware...

(ARM 710 versus StrongARM SA1100.)

the screen size is also probably hardcoded into it.

Other than that?

I know that an US American netBook ROM works in a UK English one.

(The previous owner had installed it on my machine some time before he sold it to me)

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John Wellock wrote:

> After 3 years of constant abuse, my 5MX has finally succumbed to

> the dreaded screen cable failure, ie after opening up this morning,

> nothing on the screen but horizontal lines. Could somebody offer

> me any advice on where to send it for repair, POS Ltd or the Psion

> repair centre. Which is the best place?

A few days ago I was surfing www.psionwelt.de when I came upon a link to a german company.

not only are they selling the S5 cable (35Euro's), but they also sell one for the S5mx (40Euro)

If you want them to do it, it's 75 and 80euro's respectively.

And get this: they claim that they're selling a non-original cable WITHOUT the known flaws...

They also do Revo/Revo+ and S5mx upgrades and repairs the entire S3xx/Siena s5/mx and netBook range of computers.

I could try to locate the link if anyone wants it.

:-)

Trygve

Who just received the Psion CP-Four software package.

Now, where did I put that old 5.1/4" floppy drive...

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Date: 17 Dec 2002 00:41:59 +0000

From: Christopher Marwood

Subject: BCC and ISPs

Can anyone, perhaps Itamar (given your experiences in setting up this Digest), give me advice as to why some ISPs do not handle BCC lines correctly?

So far Compuserve is the only one I have tried that does. Is there anything I can do to persuade O2 (for example) to do it properly or is it a deliberate strategy on the ISPs' part to deter junk mailers from using their servers?

I am involved in maillings for my sailing club and it is quite a nuisance to have to switch providers for this purpose.

Advice would be very welcome.

Best wishes, Chris

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Date: 17 Dec 2002 01:40:34 +0000

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: Re: scanning with digital camera

Howdwrote (> ):

> Place a mirror in the middle of the document

> you're going to copy - line up the camera and move

> it (sideways or up and down) till you can see an

> image of the lens exactly in the middle of the

> viewfinder/ monitor.

Good point. Another thing worth mentioning is that if the camera has a zoom lens, you are likely to get barrel or pillow distortion at the ends of the zoom range, so keep the zoom setting near the middle of its range.

Barrel distortion means that all four sides of the motif of paper will appear to bulge outwards. Pillow distortion means that they'll bulge inwards. Some experiment may be necessary to find the point where your lens has the least distortion. It all depends whether all you need is to be able to read the documents on screen or you need to be able to print good quality copies. This as well as keeping your camera level in both planes is worth keeping in mind when photographing architecture to, but it's not always possible. That's why professional photographers use tilt and shift lenses or large format cameras for architecture.

Owen

Thought for the day:

The Einstein theory is relatively simple.

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-53°20.87'N 6°14.83'W

Dublin City Moorings

http://home.no.net/naomij

Phone and SMS:

In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173

In Norway: +47 92053097

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Date: 17 Dec 2002 03:07:42 +0000

From: "Euan Mee"

Subject: Re: Morality & Shareware

On 15 Dec 2002, at 21:19, Itamar Engelsman wrote: > ...would anyone question today the

> taping of music on a tape recorder or the copying of films on videotape ? > Don't we all do that sometimes ?

(Both these points are UK specific, but there are analogues in

other jurisdictions)

Videotaping films (or any other material) from broadcast TV is

explicitly legal - as long as the material is not kept for more than

28 days. (the legislation is there to allow people to tape

Coronation St. one night and watch it a different,later night without becoming criminals).

Taping music is covered in two ways:

One: If you tape music that you own a copy of for your /own/

consumption, it is covered by the licence terms of the copy you

bought. (This pretty much fully covers making compilation tapes to

listen to in the car, for example).

Two: If you buy blank audio tape, whether to make private-and- personal-use-only compilations, to record elderly local people's

youthful experiences, your own band screeching and strumming

your own material in your garage, /or/ to distribute pirate copies of

that album you bought to all your friends you pay a surcharge

which is funnellled to the record companies and the likes of the

Performing Rights Society.

i.e. There are situations in which it is legal, and there are other situations in which it is illegal /and/ the copyright-holder still gets compensated.

So I don't think these is a good comparison for not paying licence

fees to Psion software publishers.

As I said before, my view is /if/ there is no way to funnel money to

the licensor, and that this is not just some momentary problemette (e.g. web-site off-line for a few days) /then/ I think the moral issue becomes easier. The legal issue doesn't really - except insofar as enforcement of the law becomes less likely when there is no

licensor sueing for payment.

I am saddened to hear of MBMView's author's death.

As an example of the issues, it seems to fall thiswise: his family

are now the copyright holders - free to continue to sell the software

as the author did, sell the rights to a caring home / the highest

bidder, or to declare it public domain / freeware / etc.

The mere fact that the author is no longer is no longer with us does

/not/ make MBMView 'fair game'. Only when the new rights

holders make some declaration will we know what's what.

Currently, we just have an example of a temporary problem with

making payment.

Cheers,

Euathis).sf.(antispam.)net

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Date: 17 Dec 2002 08:47:08 +0000

From: Andy Hayes

Subject: netWorked netBook - Finally

Hi All

Well the big day has at last come. I finally got my netBook to talk to my server. For those that are interested here is the setup: -

Server

Low spec Win2K (DHCP) server running WarFTPd (FTP Server) with a Netgear ME102 wireless access point.

Psion

Netbook running nFTP fitted with a Netgear MA401 wireless PC card.

I managed to Ping the server using FLFinger, so ran the FTP apps and eventually managed to connect. At the moment I can only manage to download files not upload and can't figure out why.

The greatest amount of help came from www.silvester.org.uk (The EPOC FAQish). Especially interesting is the WiFi compatibility list. It turned out that I was wasting my time with a Cisco 350 card, but the Netgear that I had laying around had the right FCC ID and could be installed. For those of you with 7's the list of compatible WiiFi cards tells you what you can use with a 7.

No joy with EPOCVNC so far but I live in hope of finding a gem somewhere on the net that tells me what I need to know.

If anyone needs any details on the netwroking just let me know.

Andy Hayes

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Date: 17 Dec 2002 10:43:41 +0000

From: "Aleck Cartwright"

Subject: Re: CF Memory for Psion 5mx

Does anyone know how much memory a Psion 5mx can take. Is there any limit? I am wanting to buy more memory and would be interested in buying the biggest CF card that will function with my psion. Does anyone know good deals on psion memory on the net at the moment? I am still trying to decide whether to buy a couple of smaller disks or just one disk with a huge amount of memory.

Any advice on this?

Aleck Cartwright

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Date: 17 Dec 2002 13:32:11 +0000

From: "Jeanny Sewell"

Subject: Copying in netBook

Date 2002.12.17

From. Ian McGregor: jeannysewell

Subject. Copying in netBook

I am using a netBook and have a question re agenda. I have all my birthdays etc. stored in anniversaries. How does one copy all those at once instead of one at a time, and paste into a new diary for 2003.

Should be simple !!!

Ian

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Date: 17 Dec 2002 15:31:16 +0000

From: Colin Messer

Subject: RMRNews - Messages out of order

Rick Gillyon wrote:

> Some News servers create their messages out of order,

> in a different way to most. Effective Newreaders take

> account of this and have no problem. Sadly, RMRNews

> does not and exhibits the problem you are experiencing.

Thanks Rick, it was indeed the Telewest Blueyonder news server that gave me the problem. I have found the Psion news groups too useful to drop, so I shall continue with using the UKOnline news server, which thus far has been fine. There is no reason, except financial, me to chose a landline over mobile to access the server so perhaps now is the time activate GPRS on my Nokia 6510.

Alan Morris wrote:

>> I had exactly the same problem on my Psion 5mx

>> when I first used RMRNews and was unable to solve

>> it, so RMRNews remains unused.

>> I use my Psions for all e-mails and would like to add

>> newsgroups, but can't find an app that works.

I have had no difficulty using UKOnline, but combine the legendary lightning fast speed that RMRNews exhibits with a GSM mobile connection, and I've had more fun watching paint dry.

Thanks for your help.

Colin Messer

Twickenham

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Date: 17 Dec 2002 16:47:29 +0000

From: Darryl Kempster

Subject: 5mx pro

Further to the announcement that Clove have the S5mx pro for sale I can confirm that these are indeed running an English OS! I spoke to POS who did the work and they have replaced the german keyboard with an english one and obtained the flash os in english from Psion. The guy I spoke to also mentioned that POS should be able to do the same modification to enable a 5mx pro to run in other languages as well eg French etc. They are also offering the english 5mx pro for sale (www.posltd.com) at £260

Darryl

Who now knows what he wants for xmas

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