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Epoc Digest Sat, 08 Feb 2003 Volume 01 : Number 168

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In today's Epoc Digest 25 messages:

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- Battery - Power Confusion

- Re: D&G upgrade

- Database search

- Re: netBook & Voyager VGA won't play with BenQ beamer

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 167 (2)[Scanned]

- RE: smtp.isp.go

- Send Mail from a different dial up

- Databases on Netbooks

- Re: unable to send email from certain providers

- backup and restore, sending mail,

- Re: What are these files? / Peculiar Email behaviour

- ebook registration

- Re: zlib.dll file

- EPOC Emulator - missed opportunity and connectivity issues

- Re: Mink oil, netBook OS, En Route & S7

- RV: How to view in Revo plus, .vcs files.

- Re: Project management on the Psion?

- Sending emails with multiple accounts

- Re: Project management on the Psion?

- Redirecting the Program Icons on a 5mx

- Faxes received as TIF

- SMS message transfer

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 02:24:02 +0000

From: "Woody B"

Subject: Battery - Power Confusion

While reading a discussion of powering the netbook/7, I looked at my 5MX. The AC power input says 6V DC. OK I understand that, but the internal batteris are two 1.5Volt AA batteries. That only equals 3V. What am I missing? Then I got to thinking about my old Model 100 (a Tandy of early 1980's). It took 4 AA batteries or AC adapter. To get a longer life away from the AC adapter people would buy from Radio Shack or Model 100 Club, a long plastic holder for 4 D (1.5 volt) cell batteries. With a little plug from RShack, you had 6Volts. .. So my confusion is why does the AC/DC input on the 5MX require 6 V and the AA is only 3V? Also... could we do the same thing on the 5s that we did on the Model 100... get a 4 D cell holder and the proper plug and have more power?

WoodyB

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 05:11:43 +0000

From: Keith Giles

Subject: Re: D&G upgrade

Itamar wrote:

> he OS software on the Mako and Revio is in

> ROM. AFAIK only Psion could change the OS by changing the chip.

I don't know where I got it, but I have a "Revo Battery Upgrade.sis" file which I installed on my Mako when trying to get the damned thing to work properly. Maybe that's what D&G uses as a "software" upgrade. I saw no positive results I could recognize.

BTW, I never got answers from D&G and that German outfit srgmbh.de. I did get an answer from the Toronto Palmtop Support Services and have sent the Mako off for (Jim, take note) battery and PCB replacement (whatever that is - I thought PCB was a plastic for making lawn sprinkler

pipes). Maybe its the thingy that controls when the fast charge goes

on and off.

Jim - I haven't run your backup test, but I do know that the latest

backup files on my PC always are an exact copy of what's on my Psion

and the archives contain my deleted files. Can't imagine why your

backups work differently. Have you tried to uninstall PsiWin, run

the PsiWin Reg Clean, then re-install PsiWin?

Happy Cycling,

Keith

Sunnyvale, CA

http://home.attbi.com/~ohsix827/

Thought For The Day: As you slide down the banister of life, don't

get a splinter in your career.

All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 06:28:02 +0000

From: Buzz Brooks

Subject: Database search

Hello Psioneers

Am I supposed to be able to search the archives of the digest using that "Database 2"? I downloaded it, but Windows says "We don't recognize this type of file. Try going to CKNOW.com and look for the file extension."

So, that's where I'm stuck.

Thank you, oh revered psioneers.

Manifest More Mirth,

so sayeth Buzz Brooks

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 08:48:12 +0000

From: "Marcus von Cube"

Subject: Re: netBook & Voyager VGA won't play with BenQ beamer

Rolf:

>Is it possible to create a default profile on the BenQ beamer with settings corresponding with the output characteristics of the Voyager VGA card? Looks to me that the BenQ can do with a few

'hints' when it detects the Voyager .

Not that I'm aware of. BenQ answerd my email and suspected tha the voyager timing is off (VESA) specs. I'm still waiting for more input.

I'd like to be able to program against the card but for that I would need the driver specs (and source) to be able to change the timing.

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 09:22:00 +0000

From: "Mike Woodward"

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 167 (2)[Scanned]

Subject: Message Separators/Embedding/Agenda

From: "James Cooke"

James

You can embed files in Agenda, Jotter, Word etc., if you have the Symlink

software installed, you should also be able to link to web pages if you have

Web on your Psion, so this won't work on the Netbook with the latest OS as

Opera has replaced Web.

I have just double checked to ensure that it works on Agenda & Word and it

does work, I use it frequently on Jotter, also each linked file can have

further links.

The embedded link shows a shortcut to the file, it does not show the actual

content of the file until you click on the link, at which point you can also

edit the file.

Mike Woodward

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 09:53:08 +0000

From: J.

Subject: RE: smtp.isp.go

Hi "Ian Chapple"

>My Series 7 has two e-mail accounts defined, one for Compuserve and one for freeler (a "free" internet provider in Holland). I have never been able to send mail when connecting with freeler........<

RE Could you try resetting the mailbox you want to send through :

Menu /accountSettings/nowIwant2sendViaThisMailbox/Outgoing/(SMTP)server/ do rewrite something like :"smtp.freeler.nl" +port:25 (do not write compuserve parameter) i.e. Use a SMTP pertinent to the ISP you will (net)connect to.

NB1 Freeler use: Klantcode+Toegangscode + postbudcode)

NB2 Compuserve emailboxes may need some secure "smtp" access =even if already pop connected; then you should try XJmail...

HTH

Jack

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 12:02:00 +0000

From: michael robins

Subject: Send Mail from a different dial up

> From: "Ian Chapple"

> ...I have never been able to send mail when connecting with freeler, only if I dial up with Compuserve directly..

I suspect the answer to this has to do with specifying user ids and passwords AND smtp server.

For dial up you will have a <freeler> (in this case) username and password.

For sending your email I believe you *have* to use your ISPs out going SMTP mail server,

therefore within your email program (in this case compuserve?) you would have to specify the smtp server details used by your ISP<freeler> in order to send mail out through them.

(I believe when receiving mail you specify your mail provider (not ISP) POP details, and mail user id and password).

Hope this kinda makes sense

MikeR

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 12:14:31 +0000

From: michael robins

Subject: Databases on Netbooks

I need to record some details whilst working in an aircraft cockpit (its not a real cockpit but part of an aircraft simulator), I want then to be able to download the details into an MS Access database (yes I hate M$ but the Access database is a tool that is used (in my) company wide). So the question is, is there a program on the netbook that will record details in a database style AND allow these to be exported / sychronised with a MS Access database ?

Thanks for any suggestions

MikeR

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 13:01:35 +0000

From: "Jason Garbutt"

Subject: Re: unable to send email from certain providers

On 6 Feb 2003, "Ian Chapple" wrote: "My Series 7 has two e-mail accounts defined, one for Compuserve and one for freeler (a "free" internet provider in Holland). I have never been able to send mail when connecting with freeler, only if I dial up with Compuserve directly. I tried the above trick, to see whether I could send mail "from" compuserve but dialling up with freeler. As far as I can tell, all logon iDs and passwords are correct. Does anybody have any bright ideas as to why I am unable to send email from certain providers?"

Ian,

Virtually all ISPs prevent you from sending mail unless you have an account with them, and are connected via their own internet connection. This is to prevent unscrupulous individuals sending SPAM: as they can control those who connect with thenx but not those who connect with other providers.

In other words, if you dial-up CompuServe you can only send email from a CompuServe account, and likewise with Freeler. This doesn't prevent you receiving mail: which you should be able to do from any email account you have regardless of your current connection.

Hope that answers your question.

Regards,

Jason

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 13:18:32 +0000

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: backup and restore, sending mail,

Answer to: Daniele Squarci

Re.: backup and restore - When you do the back-up, it should back-up the files dated 6.2 and move the files 30.1 from the back-up folder to the archive folder. If you than do a restore only the files 6.2 should be restored. So I don't understand why it behaves differently with you. How do you exactly do your back-up and restore ?

Answer to : Ian Chapple.

RE. sending mail - In order to stop sending of SPAM almost all ISP's will not allow the sending of email with their smtp server while connecting via another ISP. The trick is that you have to change in the email settings (Tools -> Account settings in the email program) the default account to be used AS WELL AS use the correct SMTP address (which for Compuserve is "smtp.compuserve.com"). You also have to verify that your ISP is POP3 compatible, otherwise your Psion will not be usable with that ISP.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 13:31:35 +0000

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: Re: What are these files? / Peculiar Email behaviour

Howdy!

Michael Degn wrote (In reply to David Lir) (> ):

>> GSMBSC.TSY 149k

>> IRDA.PRT 85k

> They both belong to the Mobile Connectivity Update

> from Psion. You can move the to the D drive

> without any harm, but you should keep in mind if

> you do so, that the installation file

> "MobileConnectivityUpdate.sis" in

> C:\System\Install\ will no longer be able to keep

> track of the files.

This will only be a problem if you ever need to uninstall it or install an upgraded version, and why would anyone need to uninstall the Mobile Connectivity Update?

It's been my experience that most of the stuff under C:\System can safely be moved to D: The exception is the INI files in the subfolders under C:\System\Apps. If they were moved, the applications they belonged to would probably just create new ones on C: and lose your settings in the process. Other exceptions would be the Contacts file and the Mail folders which should only be moved by the Email application.

As for the Mail folders, these are the only things I prefer to keep on C. The reason for this is that if your battery is getting low when you connect to get your mail, you can have a serious crash if it gets too low to write to CF while you're downloading your mail. This happened to me twice a long time ago and since then I have kept the mail folder on C and used SaveMail to keep it's size under control.

While we're on that subject: I've recently experienced some very peculiar behaviour from the e-mail application on my Mako. I had around 60 e-mails in my draft folder (shocking isn't it?) and whenever the total number of e-mails in the Email application got up to around 80 (not sure of the exact number), downloading e-mails would crash with an "Access Denied" message when downloading the 81st e-mail. The connection to the net would be instantly broken even if there was also outgoing e-mail being sent at the time.

I've "solved" the problem by getting rid of most of the backlog from Draft, but still don't understand why this was happening as I know other people have a lot more than 80 messages in Email. I suppose the best would be to clear ALL the backlog, delete the mail folder and create a new one as I expect there must be a corrupted file in there.

Owen

Thought for the day:

Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, but when they lit a fire in the craft, it sank, proving once again that you can't have your kayak and heat it.

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-53°20.87'N 6°14.83'W

Dublin City Moorings

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 15:54:45 +0000

From: "Tony Cabot"

Subject: ebook registration

I have downloaded ebook and am enjoying using it, particularly the vertical screen orientation which makes the netBook feel almost like a real book. However, there is still a registration nag which pops up when the program starts but the registartion web site is missing. I guess my

question is, is it really freeware and if so will it quit after the 30 day "trial period"? It would also be nice to get rid of the nag.

*****

Andy Hayes wrote:

******

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 16:00:17 +0000

From: Keith Giles

Subject: Re: zlib.dll file

For David Lir. I have a zlib.dll file on my 5mx. I don't know which app put it there. In my Add/Remove list a "zlib 1.1.4 1.01" shows up. but for what it's worth, here's what I have:

abp5

Alarm+

Assistant (an old freeware version)

Backup (registered)

Collins Frency\h/English dictionary

Collins German/English dictionary

BikLog5

Compact

Converter

Crypto

Enroute (Millennium)

EpocSync

StickyKeys (it created an ExAb folder for itself)

FlWorld5

FMan (I have no idea what that is. There are 2 files in the folder,

aif and app, both of which have the "?" icon - left over from

something? Safe to delete?)

FreeMem

JB5StopGo

JB5Utils

Macro5

Merlin (registered)

nConvert (a beta freeware version)

NoMore

nSwitcher

OPXscan

PSolly

RMRZip (registered)

SetScreen

Street (Millennium)

Trivia

Also, it's on my PC. In addition to the epoc version, PdfPrinter

came with a wins version and that file is installed in

C:\Epoc32\Release\wins\deb\ on my PC.

Don't know if any of this will help you or not.

Happy Cycling,

Keith

Sunnyvale, CA

http://home.attbi.com/~ohsix827/

Thought For The Day: Be kind to your children because they're the

ones who choose your nursing home.

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 16:20:07 +0000

From: "Jason Garbutt"

Subject: EPOC Emulator - missed opportunity and connectivity issues

Hi Digestives,

Recently I've been more desk based (using Win XP) than on the road, so have been using my Psion S5c a bit less, which hopefully means it'll last a bit longer :-)

I've been trying to find a solution to synchronising and accessing my Psion data with the PC. I've tried synching with Lotus Organizer and have given this up as lost cause, so now I use the EPOC Emulator. I think Psion missed a huge opportunity

here - having 'my Psion' on the desktop is fantastic, it works very quickly and makes everything easy & convenient, as long as I remember to copy the altered files back to my Psion when I set off on the road. The emulator could have formed the basis for a perfect connectivity suite with just a little better integration into windows - what a shame.

I use the backup program to copy the files to my hard drive, and then use the emulator to access these, following which I manually copy the altered files back to the Psion

My questions are:

1. Is there an easy way/program to ensure the PC/Psion always have the most recently updated files on them ?

2. I can't copy & paste from the emulator to windows - this is a HUGE disadvantage, any suggestions ?

TIA.

Regards,

Jason

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 17:47:40 +0000

From: "Martin Guthrie"

Subject: Re: Mink oil, netBook OS, En Route & S7

Reply to: andy.ahern

>>>>

Martin, Try saddle oil. My uncle (not Bob) swears by it for use on his leather jacket, which seems to have the same consistency as the Netbook cover.

<<<<

Yes I've used this stuff on saddles (not surprisingly perhaps) in the past. I'll have a look.... Thanks.

Reply to: "Saj T. Jumaani"

>>>>

netBook's OS is in CF, the one in the ROM is just an instruction for the netBook to look for the OS in the CF for loading. Right?

<<<<

Right.

>>>>

would it be possible then, to upgrade a 156-built netBook by just inserting a CF (containing newer OS build 158), after a hard reset?

<<<<

Yes, that's what they were designed to be able to do.

>>>>

if it is, would anyone sell me a CF containing the Build158? i will pay by cheque. i prefer to buy from someone here in uk - (delivery could take weeks if i buy it from some one abroad)

<<<<

No need. The latest OS (158) is a free download from Psion Teklogic's

site:- http://www.psionteklogix.com/netbookpdk/downloads.htm You need to register - but that's free too. 6.4Mb download.

>>>>

i hope i am not breaking any laws in doing this. tell me if i am. i will be paying for the CF and postage not for the OS.

<<<<

Don't worry - totally legal. ;-)

Reply to: Alan Morris

>>>>

Your reply, in a single sentence amounts to:-

TomTom requires Psion's 'InstApp' application to be on C: as it does not look on Z:.

<<<<

Erm, it did yes... ;-) However, I've since looked again and InstApp seems to have gone - yet Citymaps still installs okay! :-(

>>>>

So maybe TomTom support do not fully understand their problem!

<<<<

Or maybe I don't... I'll keep looking at this.

>>>>

A small point about PsiWin. Your reply suggests that it puts a copy of 'InstApp' onto C: on a 5mx or 7 - if a Psion is connected while installing PsiWin - something I don't do. (This was typed on a Revo+ at work, but I've just checked on the prime 5mx and 7, and found 'InstApp' on both machines on both Z: & C:.)

<<<<

All I can say for sure (now) is that re-installing PsiWin with my Psion connected enabled Citymaps to install itself and subsequent maps.

>>>>

However have you investigated their own format zip files? I've had a quick attempt, but got nowhere. There are similarities with a PKZip file. There are many users who would like to extract the map .SIS files.

<<<<

I haven't, no. When I get a chance, I'll have a go. It'd certainly be handier to be able to carry spare maps as SIS files...

Best regards,

Martin Guthrie

www.pscience5.net

www.freepoc.org

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 18:32:21 +0000

From: "Leonel Mollinedo"

Subject: RV: How to view in Revo plus, .vcs files.

-----Mensaje original-----

De: Leonel MollinEnviado el: Jueves, 06 de Febrero de 2003 03:39 p.m.

Para: Epoc.Digest[Epoc

Asunto: RV: How to view in Revo plus, .vcs files.

Hello to all:

I transfered some info from a Handspring visor, using to reveceive it the

BEAM program, but i wasn´t able to open the file on my Revo plus, can

anyone give some advice on this topic.

Either i ask in some past digest if someone can tell me, if there is a

responsable, place in London where i can get my Revo to be adjusted??????.

In adveise thanks for your trouble.

Leonel.

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 19:33:49 +0000

From: "sttruesdalem

Subject: Re: Project management on the Psion?

>So I need ideas, examples how I can manage a normal, lots of balls in the

>air, multifaceted project. I don't have to keep track of money, just need

>to stay on top of lots of "stuff" keeping track of the people I need to

>talk (email) to, things to do, steps in doing, all the input (emails) I

>receive, etc.

>I'd prefer to use the internal Psion programs or programs (free) without

>big learning curve. I'm already behind the power curve on this. If this

has

>been discussed on this or the previous digest (UPS5), I'd be happy with

>private emails telling me where to look.

You might try ProjXpert http://corisoft.free.fr/index_px.html

One of it's strenghts that I've found is that it integrates with the

built-in Contacts app, and allows you to easily track calls from each

contact - inlcuding the subject of each call.

It also integrates with the built-in Agenda appointments and todos, has a

built in file manager, and tracks tasks, purchases, Issues, expenses, and

time logged on each task. Each item can be linked to other items.

The one weakness is tracking Todos among multiple people. You can do that

using categories, but it is not a strength.

Other apps to try would be:

Customer Relations Manager -

http://www.pocketiq.com/home/software/details.asp?product=CustomerRelationMa

nager

RMR Contact - http://www.rmrsoft.com/epoc/contact.htm

I did a comparison review a while back on Plan, LifePlan, and QuickP (an

earlier incarnation of ProjXpert). It might be useful as well.

http://www.foxpop.ndirect.co.uk/thirdparty/project01.htm

As far as using the built in programs, you could use Data or Sheet to set

up a database of issues and tasks and use some macros to link these to

agenda and contact entries, but by the time you have done that you could

have purhased one of these programs that could do it more smoothly and

without the learning curve.

Good luck.

Steve Truesdale

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 19:46:44 +0000

From: "Michael Degn"

Subject: Sending emails with multiple accounts

Answer to Ian Chapple

> My Series 7 has two e-mail accounts defined, one for Compuserve and one for freeler (a "free" internet provider in Holland). I have never been able to send mail when connecting with freeler, only if I dial up with Compuserve directly. I tried the above trick, to see whether I could send mail "from" compuserve but dialling up with freeler. As far as I can tell, all logon iDs and passwords are correct. Does anybody have any bright ideas as to why I am unable to send email from certain providers? <

Hi Ian,

This has something to do with preventing SPAM. Let's say (just as an example as I don't have these accounts) CompuServe's outgoing SMTP server is "smtp.compuserve.com" and freeler's outgoing SMTP server is "smtp.freeler.com". Your normal ISP is CompuServe, which means that when you connect to the Internet you must use "smtp.compuserve.com" for both accounts as outgoing SMTP server. The incoming POP3 server should of course remain specific to each account.

Now if you want to connect via your freeler ISP, you'll have to change the outgoing SMTP server to "smtp.freeler.com" for both accounts in order to able to use them. Otherwise you'll always get an error because you have connected to one server, but are trying to send from another.

I have two providers. The one is Orange with a dial-up number and the other is TDC, which is used for my LAN and has no dial-up number.

When I want to connect my Psion via mobile phone I change my outgoing SMTP to mail.wanadoo.dk and when I want to connect via MochaPPP I change my outgoing SMTP to smtp.mail.dk - that's the way it works.

Best regards,

Michael Degn

Esbjerg, Denmark

www.degn.esenet.dk

www.pdanmark.dk

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 20:04:24 +0000

From: "Woody B"

Subject: Re: Project management on the Psion?

Many thanks to Mike, Philip and Peter for their offlist replies. I'm using their suggstions and others gleened from the Digest.

I might suggest you take Mike Woodward up on his offer in Digest 166. Ask for a copy of his Epoc Word document explaining how he manages projects. When skimming initially, thought it was just showing file structure. Ok that was nice and even useful. Then I actually read!!! what he had written. Some very nice suggstions for managing a project, or just controlling your Epoc files and folders. The point was brought home this morning when trying to find a file on my PC. I couldn't remember the name, and it had accidently gotten saved in the wrong folder. I hadn't used Mike's naming system on it, so I searched (even using Windoz Find) for like 10 minutes. I quickly renamed it using Mike's system. I even knew part of the system he suggested, but got lazy thinking "long names" would do the trick.

I was taught many years ago, by the Wise Old Sysop of my computer club, "ask the group, the group knows everything".

Thanks, WoodyB

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 20:14:25 +0000

From: "Eric Cohen"

Subject: Redirecting the Program Icons on a 5mx

Is there a way to redirect the program icons to a different file. I have created a second contact list and would like the contact program icon at the bottom of the screen to go to that file.

Eric Cohen

Toronto, Canada

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 22:09:28 +0000

From: Kevin Thorne

Subject: Faxes received as TIF

Itamar Englesman wrote:

<However, I find it easier to use a service that will receive the faxes for me and send them as a TIF attachment to my emailbox which I can read with MBMView. One such a service is www.yac.com. This way I don't have to have my mobile and Psion ready alligned and can receive and read the faxes when _I_ want to.>

I've heard of these fax to email services and this setup sounds most convenient, especially as I have nConvert which I could use to view the TIF attachments. Although I could simply receive a fax directly to my 9210 without messing about aligning two boxes at a set/pre-arranged time I do need to store faxes and the TIF format would be ideal for this (storing them in folders of my choosing as TIF rather than cluttering up the Email app) on my S7. Can the service be set up just using a S7 to enable it or did you need to use a PC to do this?

Regards

Kevin Thorne

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Date: 7 Feb 2003 22:09:58 +0000

From: Kevin Thorne

Subject: SMS message transfer

I sometimes use my 9210 as a fax modem to connect my S7 to the internet. As I previously used an 8210 I simply used the same modem settings and this works fine for data (I haven't tried fax). But, unlike the 8210 where SMS transfer between phone and Psion worked fine, I can't get my SMS messages stored on the 9210 transferred to the S7. I hit "synchronise with phone" on the Transfer menu within Email but nothing transfers. How do I get the SMS messages stored on the 9210 onto the S7?

Regards

Kevin Thorne

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