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Epoc Digest      Fri, 14 Mar 2003     Volume 01 : Number 200

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Sent to:  753 subscribers

In today's Epoc Digest 27 messages:

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- HAPPY BIRTHDAY

- Re: SPAM

- 3mx/Mako

- Protect against spam, backup

- Re: Netbooks from Malaysia

- Expansys acquires Psion e-store

- Samsung announces first Symbian OS handset

- Re: Offensive Language/Batteries

- Re Spam

- Content monitoring, roaming and numbers, rumours, spam, floppies

- Swearing, large Compact Flash

- Re: How to upgrade Psion 3a using Psiwin233

- Spam

- Mac OS X experience

- ADMIN

- ADMIN

- no subject

- re: Admin

- Magazine article about Psion and picture of machine.

- RE:ADMIN

- MP3 and Palmtop, Thomas Vidbjørg

- 5mx: 'Not found' message keeps appearing

- Rumour mill

- MBMView,

- More from Rumour Central, email addresses, Connecting to Compuserv e,

- s45E safari Q

- FS: 1 used and 1 NEW 5mx in Toronto, Canada

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Date: 14 Mar 2003 12:37:11 +0100

From: Itamar

Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY

Happy birthday to us all, we have reached no. 200 ! Let's hope that our machines will continue to work to get us to many more birthdays of the digest.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Re: SPAM

Antony wrote at Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:55:21 +0100 (> ):

Hi Antony and all,

> In case anyone wanted it, I have written a simple

> Windows utility that will perform a light

> encryption of any string by simply converting it

> to html hex (e.g. 'a' becomes '%61')

This is a good idea. If you agree, we will encrypt the addresses in the proposed form in our Epocdigest.

But as first trial I removed the addresses at all. What is your opinion?

I think, the most of Epocdigest subscribers uses her/his Psion machines for reading the Digest. For converting a marked text to a human readable form I wrote a small macro. If we will decide to convert and if you are interested in this macro, pls. let me know.

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Best Regards

Rolf Vonau

The Epoc Digest Team

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Date: 11 Mar 2003 16:31:10 +0100

From: Andy Hayes

Subject: 3mx/Mako

Hi All

Thanks for all of the interest in the 3mx that I had for sale. It is now sold.

I might be very lucky, or it might be the way that it has remained relatively unused, but I have never had a problem with the batteries on my Mako (Revo Plus). It has mostly sat in a safe since the day of purchase! It comes out every couple of weeks for a recharge and a game of cascade. As it seems a bit of a waste just sitting there I have decided that it might as well find a new home. It is of course pristine, includes all original packaging, docking station, cd, manual and leaflets. I disposed of the US power supply and replaced it with a UK version, which is included. Its for sale at 70 ukp delivered in the UK only. Any interest from the list?

I hope that no-one minds me using the list as my private jumble sale!

Andy Hayes

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 12:57:08 +0100

From: Eric Lindsay

Subject: Protect against spam, backup

>Epoc Digest      Wed, 12 Mar 2003     Volume 01 : Number 198 >1. Spam

>What about if we replace sign in each sender address with e.g. <at>? So nobody can scan the Psioneering site and find real addresses.

Remember that some of the spammers are using fairly sophisticated extraction techniques to locate email addresses, and then manipulate them back into a valid address.  At a minimum I'd suggest in the email address remove the < and >, replace with at, and replace each full stop with a space.  in addition, add some invalid characters to the first part of the address past (adding to the .com or .net doesn't work because they know how to correct that automatically).  In essence, make it very hard to identify as an email address unless a human reads it.

>From: Steve Hodgson

>Subject: PsiWin Backup & Restore (Again)

> The problem is that using PsiWin's restore function RESTORES EVERYTHING THAT HAS EVER BEEN ON THE DRIVE.

>It seems to me that while PSiWin backup may be essential for disaster recovery, if there is any time that one can plan to remove then restore files it is better to just take a primitive copy of the directory structure and use that for restoration.

I have always found that backup to a folder on a CF makes a wonderful (albeit not perfect) way of handling backups.  Takes only a few moments to get a reset Psion back into action that way.

I've thought of the PsiWin backup as more of an emergency copy, although the very first time you copy it is pretty clean (so you can always move the backups elsewhere, and force a brand new copy from time to time).

Eric Lind www.avalook.com

Airlie Beach, Nth Qld, Australia ph +61 7 4948 0450

http://www.ericlindsay.com NEW Airlie-SF-Psion-Epoc

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 21:28:00 +0100

From: gordont

(Terry Gordon)

Subject: Re: Netbooks from Malaysia

I received my new netbook - it looks and works great except for the fact that Agenda doesn't work.  Something about no kernal.  How can I load Agenda back into the Netbook's rom?  Which version and where do I get it.  Can I grab it out of some folder on my 5MX?  TG

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 21:33:30 +0100

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Expansys acquires Psion e-store

Hello All,

It's already a week old but I found this snippet on the news wires.

[Quote]

Expansys acquires Psion e-store

Expansys, the mobile technology retailer, has announced the acquisition of Psion's e-store business.

[Unquote]

For more info : www.pmn.co.uk

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Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 21:33:32 +0100

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Samsung announces first Symbian OS handset

Hello All,

From the news wires:

[Quote]

Samsung announces first Symbian OS handset

Samsung has announced its first Symbian OS handset, a clamshell Series 60 device with rotating digital camera and 65,000 colour screen.

[Unquote]

More information on www.pmn.co.uk.

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Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 21:43:54 +0100

From: Keith Giles

Subject: Re: Offensive Language/Batteries

Re: Offensive language: I blame it all on William. If he had stayed in Normandy, the Anglo-Saxon 4-letter functional verbs would still be totally acceptable by the nobility and therefore not offensive. BTW, in Texas shit is a 2-syllable word - she and it - drawn out. Like Owen, I've been in a lot of it.  :-)

Jim Watson-Gove wrote:

> a rechargeable battery instead of the  2 AA's

*No, no, no!!!!!*.  People can put in their own rechargeable batteries if they want to.

Happy Cycling,

Keith

Sunnyvale, CA

http://home.attbi.com/~ohsix827/

Thought For The Day: By the time you can make ends meet, they move the ends.

All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 22:07:56 +0100

From: andy ahern

Subject: Re Spam

Mike Robbins wrote:

>I too have received the SPAM message.  I also received one about two weeks ago, and last week I received 3 emails from a Thomas Vidbj$B�S(Bg (whom I have no knowledge of),  all of which contained viruses.<

I also got two messages from Thomas Vidbjorg. I deleted them without opening as they looked suspicious. The subjects were "Avril Lavigne" and "Sk8aboi". I get very little spam at present, so the Digest is my main suspect. I did a Google search for my email address a couple of months back and found it on the Psioneering site. replacement looks like a good idea to me, but will it be possible to modify the archives too ?

Regards,

Andy

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 23:53:38 +0100

From: Trygve Henriksen

Subject: Content monitoring, roaming and numbers, rumours, spam, floppies

Greetings!

And Happy 200!!!!

Andrew Longdon wrote:

> Orion Telecom's automated content monitoring gateway wrote:

>> > ...It believes it may contain unacceptable or foul language.

>> > Please remove any inappropriate language and send it again.

>> > Orion mail scanning rule: Bothways : Block Unacceptable

> Now, class, please conjugate the verb to sh!t...

What about these words:

Shittah - The tree that supplied the wood for the Jewish Tabernacle...

Shittim - The wood from said tree...

Shittle - Wavering, inconstant.

(All found in Websters)

or what about the inhabitants of Shittlehope, Durham, England?

(Probert.TR)

Shall we see if the filter complains about those words, too?

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Itamar asked:

> Re.: Roaming - What is the use of "knowing" there is a telephone

> number behind the call if you don't register it and do something with

> it like testing whether it is an "allowed" connection or not ? Can they

> registere each and every call where it came from ?

Yes, they CAN register all calls, and the numbers. Mostly it's the 'free' services that does it, but more and more are doing it.

When they log the phone number they also log the IP address and 'machine name' given to the machine. That way, if there's a complaint, like someone sending out lots of offers for a popular pill, they can track the perpetrator and block his access.

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Jim Watson~Gove wrote:

> I had a conversation with the repair company up in Toronto, Canada,

> concerning the battery upgrade on my two Mako's.  Several

> interesting items came up.

Well, Psion IS famous(or rather infamous) for being tightlipped about new machines.

but, in the past this has been to preserve sales of existing models until the new model is launched. (They can't afford to end up with large numbers of old models)

Now, on the other hand?

If they're prepping a new PDA, they don't have a current product on the market, if you don't count the netBook(which isn't really a PDA), and the netPad which is for the specialist market, so there's no real danger of losing any sales.

> My brainstorm (with no input from anybody), to keep the rumor mill

> churning would be a color 5mx (I don't like color but the market

> sure does), a faster processor, 32 meg on board, a rechargeable

> battery instead of the  2 AA's

In the past there was a rumour of a Revo with Bluetooth that was shelved at the last minute because they didn't think Bluetooth was mature enough...

Also, nowadays MMC and SD cards are small, but can store reasonable amounts of Data, so they may have rectified the lack of removeable storage...

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Philip S.  Adkins Potter wrote:

> The Anti-spammers reckon that replacwith <at> or anything

> similar is not always effective as the spam address-harvesting-engines

> are savvy to that.

I tend to agree...

Why not replace it with .from.

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Saj Jumaani wrote:

> <BTW: Talking about laptops... Has anyone else noticed that floppy

> drives now are optional extras? >

> they are. my new laptop came without a floppy drive. i was offered

> £66+ for a sony floppy drive by the salesman which i declined. i think

> floppies are becoming obsolete. cf disks are a lot better, smaller yet

> has a bigger capacity. and i can use it in nb too.

Yeah...

But it was no fun for me when I had to install WinNT on them....

We use a boot-floppy that logs onto the network, connects to a server and runs an automated install script.

(A common way to do it in large offices)

A bit difficult without a floppy...

And now the same PC's are to be reinstalled with XP.

Guess how we're doing it....

I also quite often transfer files from my desktop PC to whatever laptop i'm trying to resurrect...

:-)

Trygve

Just now playing with an Atari Lynx...

Now THAT's how to build a solid game console...

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Date: 14 Mar 2003 01:49:20 +0100

From: Eric Lindsay

Subject: Swearing, large Compact Flash

>Epoc Digest      Thu, 13 Mar 2003     Volume 01 : Number 199

If we can't say s**t, then how can we express our opinion that M$ programs attract bugs like s**t attracts flies?

Who will be the first to test their Psion with a large Compact Flash?

HANNOVER, GERMANY, MARCH 13, 2003 - SanDisk Corporation (NASDAQ:SNDK) today introduced a four gigabyte (GB) CompactFlash* (CF) card, the world's largest capacity CompactFlash memory card. With the new announcement, SanDisk is leveraging its production 0.13 micron NAND flash technology and a new advanced high density component package to quadruple the capacity of its largest capacity CF card. The card, which is in the popular Type I CF format, was introduced at a press conference at the CeBIT trade show. SanDisk is demonstrating products at the show in Hall 21, Booth B-24.   

I certainly hope someone manages to see it at the show and try

it in a Psion.  Meanwhile, what is the largest CF that anyone in this

group is using?  I have 128MB, but I'm sure lots of people will have larger.

Eric Lind www.avalook.com

Airlie Beach, Nth Qld, Australia ph +61 7 4948 0450

http://www.ericlindsay.com NEW Airlie-SF-Psion-Epoc

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Date: 14 Mar 2003 05:24:10 +0100

From: Mike Alexander

Subject: Re: How to upgrade Psion 3a using Psiwin233

--On 12 Mar 2003 22:18:10 +0100 Andrew Hardy wrote:

> Does 233 include the upgrade option, or do I need to load something > earlier? I can't easily check as PsiWin insists on other versions being > removed before it will run.

It was my experience that PsiWIn 2.3.3 on Win2k does not install shortcuts to the upgrade program.  The program is still there (in C:\Program Files\Psion\PswWin\PSIUPGD.exe by default), but it won't work.  It runs but after copying all the files claims it can't find them.  You can still convert individual files by copying them to the new machine, which might be better anyway since it gives you more control.  At any rate that's what I did when I upgraded a few months ago.

   Mike

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Date: 14 Mar 2003 05:28:23 +0100

From: Peter Rand

Subject: Spam

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What about if we replace sign in each sender address with e.g. <at>? So nobody can scan the Psioneering site and find real addresses.

What is your opinion?

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Replacing in each sender address is not enough. I do not believe that the digest should display sender addresses at all.

If I need to contact a certain person, I can always write "Rolf, please contact mein the body of my message.

But it would be better if the headers themselves completely hid the sender addresses. Once spammers get your email address, you will be forced to abandon your account at some point.

So I would be strongly in favor of a more discreet approach to the digest ...

Peter

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Date: 14 Mar 2003 05:48:34 +0100

From: Andrew Morphett

Subject: Mac OS X experience

Are there any experiences from the group with using a psion with a Mac os X (PowerBook) with only USB.

I am especially interested in USB to serial devices as I most want to use my Mako with the PowerBook.

Are there drivers for Mac OS X? And what brands are known to work? (or which are known not to work!!)

I have come across the site for JPL (Java Psion Link?) and this seems very promising (promises of some file conversions, incremental backup, ... In a soon to be released version). All assuming I can get a good connection between the two.

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Regards,

Andrew Morphett

Geelong, Australia

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Date: 14 Mar 2003 07:45:40 +0100

From: "Schopf, Wulf"

Subject: ADMIN

Hi folks,

after reading the several discussions of symbol, I would propose to replace it by a blank sign or to delete the whole e-mail address, which is cited in <...>. If anybody would like to receive private response, she/he can provide the address within the body of the message or in the signature.

Best Regards

Wulf

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Date: 14 Mar 2003 08:48:44 +0100

From: Kate Head

Subject: ADMIN

>>Spam

Hi there,

Anything that stops me getting pornographic emails (and viruses) is OK by me.

All the best,

      Kate!!

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Date: 14 Mar 2003 09:43:19 +0100

From: Steve Hodgson

Subject: no subject

> I'll be in Edinburgh from the 26th to the 28th of March and would love

> too <sic> meet any Psioneers in the area.

I would probably be up for that.

> I want to buy the new Philips Jackrabbit III combined DVD player, MP3

> CD player and CDRW. I can't find one here in Ireland, at least not at

> an acceptable price. Could anyone here recommend either a shop in

> Edinburgh that would have it in stock or could get one in for me before

> I arrive.

Hi-Fi Corner (0131 220 1535) in Rose Street are Philips stockists and are going to check on whether they can get one in and what the price will be.  I'll email you off-digest when I hear from them.

Cheers,

Steve Hodgson

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Date: 14 Mar 2003 09:43:35 +0100

From: Steve Hodgson

Subject: re: Admin

> I wonder why we need to keep the email addresses at all in the web based digests.

Martin,

Good suggestion.  I would go for just munging or removing addresses in the Web archive.

I think we do need to keep full email addresses in the Digest sent to users as it is potentially useful to be able to CC someone when posting a response to a really urgent query.  A copy of a posting to a subscriber could take 24 hours off the time to sort out a query, rather than having to wait for the next digest.

Cheers,

Steve

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Date: 14 Mar 2003 09:46:20 +0100

From: Andrew Sinclair

Subject: Magazine article about Psion and picture of machine.

Hi all, long time lurker here...

One of the magazines I subscribe to at work (The Engineer) had a small news piece this week about Psion's 2002 results and the article was illustrated with a picture of a new/prototype/abandoned/concept machine branded as Psion/Symbian.  I've scanned the article with the picture and posted it up on the web at http://www.smellycat.org/psion/psion.html if anyone is interested.

Is this the machine that Psion was developing with Motorola then dropped when Psion pulled out of consumer machines?

Cheers,

Andy

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Tel:     +44 (0)1793 441 842   Fax: +44 (0)1793 441 605

Mobile:  +44 (0)7989 492 518   Web: http://www.ipplc.com

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Date: 14 Mar 2003 10:55:21 +0100

From: Antony

Subject: RE:ADMIN

> Hi folks,

The Anti-spammers reckon that replacwith <at> or anything similar is not always effective as the spam address-harvesting-engines are savvy to that. The digests are already available in zip form so that is good. If the eAddress in an HTML document is masked somehow, as a form or something (I can't remember how to do it) then the engines can't recognise it as an eAddress.

The find-and-replace function (I know you already know) should make whatever solution easy.

Good luck,

Phil. <

In case anyone wanted it, I have written a simple Windows utility that will perform a light encryption of any string by simply converting it to html hex (e.g. 'a' becomes '%61') I use it when I want to put an email address on a web page.