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Epoc Digest Sat, 05 Apr 2003 Volume 01 : Number 222

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In today's Epoc Digest 21 messages:

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- Re: Mailing Labels

- embedded sheet in word

- Size of C700

- Label printing

- SavaJe for netbook

- Still can't connect to the network

- RE:COLOUR SCREEN TALK

- Re: Printing Problems

- Re: 6310i connection

- Software for Record collection, More Battery Questions, Digest numbers,

- Weird Stuff

- Re: Re: Mailing Labels

- Re: printing via Ethernet

- Re: Whynot linux?

- Re: Changing Batteries and Backing Up

- Re: Sticky back plastic (off topic!)

- Re Psion-friendly website design?

- Multiple ISP Problem

- How long does it take to charge a Series 7?

- Re: sleep mode and power up # 220 (6)

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 06:34:36 +0000

From: "Marcus von Cube"

Subject: Re: Mailing Labels

Jim,

>> "Eileen Claire","P.O. Box 1415

>> Port Hadlock, WA 98339"

>> "Lisa Gilley"

For me this looks like the line breaks are inside your data file. Did you enter the address part in a single memo field with multiple lines? The export seem sto keep the line breaks. I don't think that E-Mail is the culprit, especially if you dont past the file in the body but send it as an attachment. To verify this, open the text file in Editor or Word.

What could be done about this is to write some software (OPL could do the trick) that parses the textfile (or reads the data file directly) and replaces the line breaks within the fields by a sequence like "," (quote, comma, quote). This would create separate fields from the lines.

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 06:58:02 +0000

From: "Norminton David (K81010) KINGS CORNER SURGERY SL5 0AE"

Subject: embedded sheet in word

When I receive documents with embedded sheets (minutes of meetings etc) I have found that only a certain amount of data is saved in each cell so as a consequence I cannot download the full document into my Psion - any suggestions out there?

David Norminton

Kings Corner Surgery, Sunninghill Berks SL5 0AE

Tel 01344 623181

www.sunninghilldoctor.co.uk

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 07:41:10 +0000

From: peter.rand

Subject: Size of C700

Hi,

My C700 arrived on Tuesday, so I can state how small it is: tiny. I'd say it's shade bigger than a deck of playing cards. It's a bit thicker than the Revo, but significantly shorter. I put the units side by side and the Revo seems about 25% longer than the C700.

Here's a photo I found on the web of a Revo and a C700 side by side:

http://jpoq.tripod.com/zau1.jpg

The C700 does, in fact, fit quite comfortably in a shirt pocket. It's nowhere near "mini-notebook" class, but it's definitely Revo/Palm class.

The machine's main drawback is very poor battery life - it gets between 1 and 4 hours, depending on the screen brightness and use of the IR port or the wireless card. Unlike the Revo, I do have to recharge the C700's battery during the day. But since all data is stored in flash ROM and there are also slots for SD and CF cards, a loss of battery power won't result in a data loss the way it does on the Revo. In addition, I whipped up a external battery pack (with 4 AA's), so I can actually recharge the machine on the go without any difficulty.

The strong points of the C700:

1. The color screen is a 3.7-inch LCD panel capable of displaying in VGA (640 x 480 pixel) format. It's really beautiful. It's not reflective, so the screen is dull and hard to read outdoors.

2. Wireless! With a wireless card, I can log into free hotspots all around the city where I live. Free email, free web-browsing - pretty nice! And wireless speeds are amazing. I downloaded a mail with a 500k attachment, and it took only about 10 seconds. So with the C700 and a wireless card in my pocket, I can jump on the Internet whenever I want.

3. A swivel screen. The C700 can be used in keyboard mode or PDA mode. That's something I always wanted on the Revo. Here's an animated GIF of the swivel screen: http://www.sharp.co.jp/products/slc700/image/anime.gif

4. MP3 and video playback. Haven't tried a video yet, but MP3 playback is fine. It's a bit tinny without headphones, but rich and full with headphones. It's nice to work on documents while listening to MP3s in the background.

The keyboard is more suitable for thumb-typing than touch typing. While I can (just barely) touch type on the Revo, I can't really touch type on the C700. 6-finger typing seems to work ok.... I can also input data, graffiti style, with the stylus.

The Revo is probably the better machine for serious word-processing, but the c700 is fun due to its wireless capabilities, better MS Office

compatibility, a fantastic screen, storage slots and the dual keyboard/PDA mode. I've tested the Nokia Communicator, the SonyEricsson P800 (and a few other machines I've already forgotten) as potential Revo replacements, and

so far I certainly like the Sharp C700 best.

Peter

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 10:15:45 +0000

From: "Alan Jones"

Subject: Label printing

Not much help to Jim, but:

It's been a source of frustration to me for a long time that I can use a 3c to label print (using Dataview Pro by Purple Software, excellent software, easier than the label printing on my PC) but since I moved to S5, 5Mx and now S7 nobody has come up with a similar program. It can't be that difficult, can it??

And unfortunately the labour needed to get addresses out of Contacts and back into Series 3 Data form is too much for my once-a-year needs. Maybe, Jim, you have an old 3c somewhere???

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 12:25:10 +0000

From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bo=B9tjan?=Jerko

Subject: SavaJe for netbook

Hello !

Anybody knows where I can download SavaJE.img for Netbook? It is not published on SavaJE hp, since they don't support it anymore.

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 13:10:36 +0000

From: Crookes

(Philip Crookes)

Subject: Still can't connect to the network

From: Philip Croo

With many thanks to all who have helped me so far, I still can't connect my German netBook to the network. This is what I'm doing:

(this message also posted in comp.sys.psion.misc)

NetBook with OS Version 1.05(457) Deutsch Build 158.

NetStatRF reports: Connected to ESS

Connected to (my network SSID)

Remote MAC and the WAP number

Signal to Noise Ratio 32 dB

Average signal level 85 dB

Average noise level 51 dB

Tx rates in use 11 Mbps

Current Tx rate 11 Mbps

Tx unicast frames / bytes 4 / 1.456

Tx multicast frames / bytes 0 / 0

Tx multiple retry frames 3

Tx retry limit exceeded 3

Tx discards 0

Rx unicast frames / bytes 0 / 0

Rx multicast frames / bytes 5 /1.490

Rx FCS errors 0.00%

Attempts to PING the router produce a FAILED report. attempts to PING 192.168.0.1 cause the LED on the AVAYA card to light up and stay steady, but no connection is made.

the card is an Avaya Gold card.

In Ethernet Settings I have: (I'm translating these from German)

First screen:

Current setting 802_11-Lucent

Show connection dialogue ticked

Inactivity timeout 10:00 mm:ss

Shutdown timeout: 01:00 mm:ss

Edit screen:

Name: 802_11-Lucent

Configuration method: DHCP

Hostname (my SSID)

Device: Lucent WaveLAN / Orinoco Card

Options screen

WaveLAN network name ((my SSID)

Peer to peer mode unchecked

Advanced screen

AP density high

Transmit rate 11 Mbps

Fixed unchecked (checking this made no difference)

Medium reservation unchecked (checking this made no difference)

Power Management screen

card power management unchecked

Receive all multicasts unchecked

maximum sleep duration 65535 ms

Encryption screen

Enable encryption unchecked (encryption is not enabled in the access point)

I do not know what to put in the Internet settings - the login to my ADSL service is handled in the router so my instinct is to leave it blank.

The wireless set up works perfectly with a Sony VAIO laptop.

Any suggestions of what I'm doing wrong?

Phil---

Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25.03.03

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 13:43:17 +0000

From: Antony

Subject: RE:COLOUR SCREEN TALK

Kevin Thorne wrote about the battery life debate and the merits of a colour 5mx.

I would like to reinforce the point as there has been debate about fitting the battery in. It was pointed out that the motherboard would have to be shrunk to accomodate additional features such as an Li-ion battery, USB interface etc. I believe that there are components within a 5mx that could be replaced to accomodate these, such as a smart media slot rather than a bulky CF slot. Completely remove the serial interface and chipset, externally attach the Stylus, make it Bluetooth or better yet, WiFi

The point I am trying to make is this; The improvements that could be made could be accomodated by removing what would be the redundant parts of the existing design and by replacing existing parts with smaller equivalents. Even more up-to-date chips will not only increase performance, but may also reduce power requirements to compensate for the colour screen.

Anyway, it's a moot point because it is more likely that a Frenchman will grow a spine before Psion update the 5mx with a colour screen.

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 14:16:21 +0000

From: Andrew Gregory

Subject: Re: Printing Problems

I've since deleted the beginning of this thread, but I think the problem was printing over a WiFi LAN?

I've got an HP JetDirect 170X. This little box allows printing via FTP. I don't have WiFi for my netBook (maybe next Christmas :-), but I would expect it to be as easy as printing to a file, then using nFTP to logon to the JetDirect and 'put' the file. It might even be possible to whip up a Macro5 routine to automate everything, including deleting the print file afterwards.

I think the 170X has been discontinued, but I'm sure HP or some other manufacturer will have something similar. This means you wouldn't need to have a PC switched on to print, and saves mucking about with the suggested option of VNC. Although it would be more expensive than VNC.

Andrew Gregory,

<URL:http://www.scsoftware.com.au/family/andrew/>

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 15:24:29 +0000

From: Kevin Collins

Subject: Re: 6310i connection

Hi folks...

Rolf Brunsting wrote (> ):

> I'm sorry, but the above doesn't make any sense when > you're instructing your Nokia 6310i to use a 28,800 bps > V.34 (HSCSD) connection with AT+CBST=16 as data

> initialisation string.

Oops, I cut and pasted the instructions from some saved info, which adds (but I didn't) that for 14.4k one should use AT+CBST=14,0,1 as the string. The latter is actually what I use myself, and it works fine. Sorry, Michael, you might like to try that string if the first did not work.

Regards,

Kevin [Cork, Ireland]

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 15:43:35 +0000

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Software for Record collection, More Battery Questions, Digest numbers,

Answer to: Ulrich Hornstein

Re.: Software for Record collection - I once tried to call up the cocopapa routine from within a macro but it will not work. Apparently it is not that easy to call up a macro from within another macro. However, if someone can enlighten me how to, open for suggestions.

Answer to: Woody B

Re. More Battery Questions - I use my S7 in the office the whole day open and on and in the evening at home on and off. During the morning I use the battery and in the afternoon attach the mains, taking care I have at least 3 hours loading to fully charge the battery. In the evening I just use it from the battery. I do have a spare battery at home which I keep charged by changing the batteries around abt. once a month, so if I use it more than one battery can handle (flights, holidays) I have 10 to 12 hours of battery life from 2 batteries before I need the mains again.

Answer to Rolf Brunsting

Re. Digest numbers - The interesting thing about the digest is that although the Psions are not being sold anymore but for the netBook and netPad the membership of the digest is still slowly growing.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 16:12:12 +0000

From: Jim Watson~Gove

Subject: Weird Stuff

Many thanks to Mike McConnell's script. I have managed to get my new CServe Classic account up and working. Many problems with the CServe software and very little with the Psion settings and script.

One bit of strangeness that I still don't understand. I printed out hard copy from Mike's site, then copied and pasted the files to move into the Psion for pasting into the application. It fell on its face. I checked out my newly pasted script against the hard copy and found the copy process had

consistently dropped out

<0x0d>

in the three places it occurs. All I can say is ?????.

Now I can send BCC to the art group up here and can volunteer as a backup for the list team.

Thanks again to Mike for keeping his site current. I had three earlier versions saved against the day that I would have to return to CServe and none of them worked. CServe does like to be a moving target.

Great to have my computers up here to say nothing about the couches, bed, etc.

I'm currently living with half of my possessions sitting on my covered porch (in our own home).

jim - port townsend

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 16:12:16 +0000

From: Jim Watson~Gove

Subject: Re: Re: Mailing Labels

Euan,

<<Or you could perhaps use the settings

Text qualifier - None

Label Separator - Tab

Entry separator - End of Line>>

This one, as they say on your side of Big Blue, worked a treat. My Mac buddy is ecstatic.

Many thanks,

jim - port townsend

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 17:41:35 +0000

From: "Edgar Brazda MD, PhD"

Subject: Re: printing via Ethernet

Thank you for your answer.

> Edgar Brazda wrote:

>> My great sadness is that I can not print via ethernet (HP hangs on

>> the LAN, gets its IP from the DHCP server; nB is on an AP;

>> e-mail, web run happily - so network side is OK; I can print via

>> IR with the famous Johnson drivers - so driver side is OK, but I

>> can not choose "via ethernet" in Print setup.)

> That would take an OS device driver, written in C++ but should be

> possible... All you need is a good understanding of the lower layer

> of the OS, excellent C++ programming skills, knowledge of LPR

> printing...

I would not say a complete "device driver", that is the reason why you (cleverly) mention telnet. All needed is only an option in "via" field, and a way the nB could send the binary file to the printer IP+port.

> Or you could try to 'print to file' then use a terminal emulator and

> connect to the printer at port 9100 and see what happens when you

> feed it the file... (Isn't there a program 'Hermes'? ) No, I

> haven't tried myself...

I was pondering the same idea, but does not know if the JetAdministrator (which runs on the HP) can handle the telnet. Any suggestions?

Edgar, Budapest

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 18:04:24 +0000

From: "Edgar Brazda MD, PhD"

Subject: Re: printing via Ethernet

You wrote:

> Edgar asked: HOW TO PRINT VIA ETHERNET? Could you build a solution

> around FTP and VNC? Upload the files over FTP to the server then

> drop the file onto the printer icon using VNC. Not pretty, but it

> should work (well for some file types!). Looks like a trip to the

> PC shop to buy Acrobat (for its distiller), or a web visit to Neuon

> for nConvert! Would there be any way to set up a watched folder

> where the file was FTP'd to and would then be dropped onto the

> print queue automatically? Funnily enough I have a similar problem

> at work that I need a solution to.

Of course I was thinking something like this, Trygve mentioned even telnet. I would like to avoid the server getting involved. I see the workoraund includes 2 parts: 1, writing the binary print file and 2, sending it to the printer. This is where I need some good advice.

The HP JetAdmin has a DHPC allocated intranet 192.168.x.x IP address, but I can take it out of the DHPC and give it a fix one. But how can I send a file from the nB to an IP port?

Edgar, Budapest

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 18:10:00 +0000

From: "Edgar Brazda MD, PhD"

Subject: Re: Whynot linux?

Andy Hayes wrote:

> moment. I wanted to replace the Suns with linux boxes but my company

> doesn't like using free stuff on PCs that I was going to dump

> anyway. Some logic there I suppose, but haven't got my head around

> it yet!

Our tech staff gave me the same answer (I mean "NO linux", when I asked them). They said: what if there will be no support for some new stuff? what if sg goes wrong? what if a card has no driver? And they wanted to convince me to choose a Win2k server. When I asked them about Novell, they said it was simply dead. :(

Edgar, Budapest

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 19:44:00 +0000

From: ALYG

(Andrew Longdon)

Subject: Re: Changing Batteries and Backing Up

Thanx for all the replies regarding data loss, I personally have a CF card and use Flashback to backup the C drive. Presumably, one could also put the important data files on the CF drive so that they would always be protected. I also presume this would mean the batteries would be under greater load when accessing the D drive...

I have passed on all the advice - I've also suggested synching with Lotus Organizer - hopefully he'll have greater success than I.

,\ndy

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 22:30:56 +0000

From: Julie Wills

Subject: Re: Sticky back plastic (off topic!)

At 08:10 PM 04/04/2003, you wrote:

>Date: 3 Apr 2003 16:14:52 +0000

>From: "Euan Mee" >Subject: Re: Mailing Labels

>Here in Scotland (and the rest of the UK), Scotch tape is called >Sellotape. Except on Kiddie's tv shows on non-commercial >television, where it was resolutely referred to as 'sticky-back plastic'. :-)

Sorry, couldn't let this slip by: sticky back plastic is something else altogether, and always was (even on "Blue Peter" and any other TV shows I

may have missed<g>). It's the self-adhesive rolls of plastic intended for covering shelves etc., but more commonly used in kids' TV shows for transforming washing up liquid bottles into rockets.

Julie

P.S. I've had the Dell Axim for about a week now. So far, so good: I

suppose I should start thinking about reporting back <g>.

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 22:43:41 +0000

From: Jim Watson~Gove

Subject: Re Psion-friendly website design?

Daniele,

<<Are there any design formats you would suggest to make updating via Psion easier?>>

<<The website content will be mostly text, but will have some photos and graphic elements.>>

Ah, there's the rub, as Willy S. used to say. If you keep it text only it's a piece of cake. Once you get Photos and graphics (IMO - brighter heads may differ) it gets very complex for the Psion. I maintain my site text via the Psion and my graphics via the Windows machine and am thinking about purging

all images from the site except the Minotaur on the home page.

jim - surrounded by boxes of household goods in port townsend

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Date: 4 Apr 2003 22:43:44 +0000

From: Jim Watson~Gove

Subject: Multiple ISP Problem

I have CompuServe Classic and Earthlink up and working on one of my Mako's (ironing out bugs before setting up all three machines).

One glitch. When I send from my CompuServe account via the CompuServe ISP, I receive it the message fine on the CompuServe account but the "From" box shows my Earthlink address rather than my CompuServe address.

How can I control the identification off the source of the message?

TIA,

jim - port townsend

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Date: 5 Apr 2003 00:23:42 +0000

From: "Edward J. Curtis, Jr."

Subject: How long does it take to charge a Series 7?

>Mine seemed to charge in less than one hour. Is that normal?

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Date: 5 Apr 2003 01:46:36 +0000

From: Mark DEPPE

Subject: Re: sleep mode and power up # 220 (6)

<<<Jim Cooke: the Sony provides a sleep mode that powers up in less than 5 seconds>>> Not on the same subject exactly (out of context) as this is taken from, thought I would share my impatience which in several discussions seems to be a trait if not of the population as a whole with some psion users I have chatted with. Amazing what one gets used to. I tried a 1GB microdrive and it had the effect of slowing everything down even the start up by a second or 2 before I could enter my password, I was amazed at how disagreeable I found this, having got used to and taken for granted the instant on. The loss of responsiveness to button pushes - among other problems - led to me returning the Card. I know this is a personal thing but for me instant is what I want :-)

Kind regards

Mark

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