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Epoc Digest Tue, 22 Apr 2003 Volume 01 : Number 234

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In today's Epoc Digest 20 messages:

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- Nokia 9210 Newsreader?

- Sharp Slc -700 on sale soon at Expansys

- Re: Cut and paste Program

- Dismantling netBook...

- Really off-topic...

- Baking files to your CF, P800 memory

- Sorting Data

- True(??) Term

- Nokia 6310i, Cut and paste Program, Psion apps,

- Re: Tides and 'killer' progs for netbook, Series7

- Spam on Yahoo Groups

- Multiple Psion Devices

- Moving from S5 to S5MX

- More Gadget Stuff for Sale

- To Michael Degn

- Cut and paste Program (Aleck Cartwright)

- mp3 and a 32Mb MMC

- PsiWin Removal

- on/off problems with Nokia 6210

- Re: ABP on SonyEricsson P800

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Date: 20 Apr 2003 09:30:19 -0500

From: "Mike Dyer"

Subject: Nokia 9210 Newsreader?

Hi,

does anyone know of a 9210 Usenet reader, like Rmrnews for Epoc?, or if anyone has plans to write one, if indeed it is possible...

Thanks,

Mike Dyer.

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Date: 20 Apr 2003 09:58:41 -0500

From: "Mike Dyer"

Subject: Sharp Slc -700 on sale soon at Expansys

Coo, see http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=SL-C700

Expansys have this on their website, it will be on sale soon. I wonder if they are buying them off Dynamism or they are official imports.

It will be interesting to see how much this colour Revo look-alike goes up for sale in the U.K.

But in my case no newsreading program no purchase (see earlier 9210 post), so I shall be waiting and seeing what happens and continue to use my Revo+ / P7389 combination with Rmrnews.

Regards,

Mike Dyer.

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Date: 20 Apr 2003 11:20:18 -0500

From: Jan Scott

Subject: Re: Cut and paste Program

Aleck,

I can't help with the actual programme you wanted, but there are three multiclipboards that I have on my machine.

Allied to Macro there is multiclip and multipaste: Multiclip picks up the clip and saves it for later, multipaste shows you the clips you've got saved and you select from there. There is an upper limit on the number of clips you can have - it overwrites the oldest if you exceed this limit, and sometimes the delete clip facility errors (though the overwrite of the same clip seems fine so this is not a problem). The macros are called Multicopy.opo and Multipaste.opo and were available at the macro pages (though I'm out of the loop on new Psion software these days so if you're stuck I'll send you them). If you've got macro installed this is your best bet.

Otherwise I have two installed. Clip-it is based on a database of clips, which you set up first. Then you select from a list and away you go.

This is best for long term clips - i.e. sigs, addresses, standard phrases and the like that are wanted time and time again bit over a period of time. Clip-it was written by Ivo Woltring.

Best for short term clips (i.e. where you are doing a task that involves pasting from a selection of up to 12 clips) is Klip. This sits on top of your screen, can me moved about etc and you save your clips which are then numbered. Of course you have to know which clip lies behind which number, which is where it has it's drawback. Website on the about page

is www.palmanac.co.uk

To sum up, Multiclip/paste macros are the best, Klip is great as it sits in the screen and you don't have to keep calling it up, Clip-it is excellent for large clips that are always being used. All are freeware.

Cheers

Jan Scott

Yorkshire

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Date: 20 Apr 2003 13:23:57 -0500

From: Trygve Henriksen

Subject: Dismantling netBook...

Greetings!

Richard wrote:

> Does anyone know of a site that shows a take-apart of a NetBook or S7?

> I've googled for one, but nothing was obvious.

A message with the description will appear in your mailbox shortly...

> I assume all the screws are hidden under the leather. Gah!

Not a single one of them....

Not even for dismantling the screen...

The only 'hidden' screw is under the S7/netBook logo above the keyboard.

But before you touch that one, you should backup the machine, remove all batteries, remove the RAM module, pull out the hinge pins and so on....

:-)

Trygve

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Date: 20 Apr 2003 13:30:05 -0500

From: Trygve Henriksen

Subject: Really off-topic...

Greetings!

Owen wrote:

> Thought for the day:

> Never play leapfrog with a unicorn.

www.mopsy.com

'Childproof the unicorns'....

:-)

Trygve

Tor each and every silly tagline there's an even sillier web-comic...

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Date: 20 Apr 2003 14:00:57 -0500

From: Kevin Thorne

Subject: Baking files to your CF, P800 memory

Reply to Sergio Alisi on MyStartup:

I have a gas oven so what gas mark should I set to bake my files to a CF? I wouldn't want to overcook them. (Sorry Sergio, I really couldn't resist your typo error!)

Koi Hin wrote to Rolf Brunsting:

Although you put this question to Rolf I hope you don't mind me replying too. I don't own a P800 but I'm fairly sure it has an internal memory of 12Mb RAM and a 16Mb flash Sony Memory Duo Stick. I've read a few reviews and a major gripe seems to be that Sony don't produce a Memory Duo Stick larger than this. If this is true then the P800 is rather limited if you want to store lots of mp3s, video clips or whatever. And even if larger sizes do become available, no doubt they won't be cheap. The Memory Duo Stick is not the same as their standard one, it's smaller.

Regards

Kevin Thorne

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Date: 20 Apr 2003 16:24:30 -0500

From: Jim Watson~Gove

Subject: Sorting Data

I have set up a database with 345 records. I created a "sort by:" field and sort the database on this field, A-Z (to force it to order by last name regardless of how the record is configured)..

The records are grouped by first letter, all "a"s first, "b"s second, etc. after sorting the database.

The problem is that within the groupings, the sort seems to be random; "Ann", "Amico", Ainsworth", "Arzan", "Anibal", etc.

Am I doing something wrong? Is it a known bug?

I use this list to prepare E-Mail addresses (thanks to a program Rolf modified for me) and mailing labels, so easy crosschecking as I bring in new addresses would be desirable.

TIA,

jim - port townsend

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Date: 20 Apr 2003 21:46:30 -0500

From: Moshe Nahir

Subject: True(??) Term

Hi All,

I have a small problem and I wonder if someone could help. My True Term Spanish Verbs (registered, a dictionary of Spanish verbs) folder became corrupted somehow and when i tried to reinstall it from my PC, it too was corruped. I emailed the company that created this True Term program (they specialize in dictionaries and such), twice, to ask for a copy of the program, but had no response.

Does anyone know if they are still 'with us'? Of course if they are, they are not very friendly, in which case I would be reluctant to purchase this or any other product from them. Does anyone know of a similar program? I am leaving shortly for Spain for several months, where it can be useful.

Thanks for any help

Moshe Nahir

Winnipeg, Canada

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Date: 20 Apr 2003 21:55:54 -0500

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Nokia 6310i, Cut and paste Program, Psion apps,

Answer to: MichaelSFryer

Re.: Nokia 6310i - The settings will depend on the ISP you use. Please inform and we will be able to help you.

Answer to: Aleck Cartwright

Re. Cut and paste Program - I know of two macro's. The first one is a set of macro's called "Cocopapa" which will allow you to copy a number of words or sentences in a given order and paste these in the same order. Another macro is "multicopy" and "multipaste" which will allow you to copy a number of words or sentences and paste these in any particular order. The only problem is I don't know where I got these from anymore. If no-one can lead you in the right direction send me an email and I'll send you the files.

Answer to: salix

Re. Psion apps - I would love to use my S7 as the only computer. However, I am also a photographer (second job) and need to download images from my digital camera to the computer and work on them in a photo program. That is just impossible on an EPOC machine.

My most used direct programs are Agenda, email and sheet. However, I use a number or programs like Macro5, Assistant, Merlin to help me utilise the S7 better. Than I use DATA for my contacts (but the email addresses in Contacts), jotter files and have several games installed too. My extrabar shows 66 programs.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 21 Apr 2003 01:08:44 -0500

From: Owen Morgan

Subject: Re: Tides and 'killer' progs for netbook, Series7

Howdy!

Jon Welford wrote (> ):

> Talking of tide progs for the psion I use Navigate

> which reproduces a tidal curve for the day.

Ocean does this too, and a tidal curve or tide table for a week as well as a tide table for a month. It'll also calculate the days of spring tides.

> It also handles a

> number of other navigational duties especially

> when connected to a gps.

I use PsiNMEA which supports charts in MBM format. I obtain my PsiNMEA charts by taking screendumps from the C-map software on my WindoZe laptop. I save them as GIFs from Paint and then use nConvert to convert them to MBM on the Psion. I find that as the vectorised C-map charts consist of a dozen "clean" colours this gives a much better result than scanning paper charts.

Most places I use 1:200000 which gives a reasonable comprimise between detail and usability on what is a rather small screen for a chart plotter. I also make overview charts at 1:500000 and 1:1000000. When I need more detail or a better overview I refer to the paper chart or if the engine is running i switch the laptop on.

I mostly use PsiNMEA as a quick confirmation of my position as plotted on the paper chart rather than a navigatinal tool. I.e. I set out my position on the paper chart by reading it off the GPS and using traditional navigation like bearings off lights etc. and if the Psion (or PC) agrees, I assume that means I've got it right. I also use the track log which is useful for reference. The zig-zags on the chart showing my real progress when beating to windward can be a bit disheartening though...

Owen

Thought for the day:

I finally got my head together, now my body is falling apart.

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-953°27.22'N 6°09.05'W

Malahide, Ireland

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Date: 21 Apr 2003 08:26:18 -0500

From: "Gary Y Reyes"

Subject: Spam on Yahoo Groups

>Date: 16 Apr 2003 07:12:37 +0100

>From: "Arent Kits van Heijningen[106016.3614]" >Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 230 (3) : David Lir on moving the Digest >toYahoo Groups

>The problem here is not that the digest itself will be spammed but that >when subscribing to Yahoo Groups you automatically give your consent to >Yahoo and its partnering RBOC to share the subscribers Email adresses with >their business partners.

I believe what you can do as an individual subscriber to Yahoo Groups is to edit your profile and NOT allow Yahoo to share your email address. I have been a part of several Yahoo Groups for many years and did elect not to receive solicitations. So far, I can't remember any spam that I can attribute to Yahoo.

It may also have helped that I elected to receive my Yahoo Groups messages in digest form and not individual emails. This has also helped me manage my anti-virus activity.

Gary

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Date: 21 Apr 2003 08:52:22 -0500

From: "Gary Y Reyes"

Subject: Multiple Psion Devices

>Date: 16 Apr 2003 21:26:30 +0100

>From: Rolf Brunsting >Subject: Re: Multiple Psion Devices

Rolf,

Thanks a lot for the info.

Gary

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Date: 21 Apr 2003 09:22:05 -0500

From: "Gary Y Reyes"

Subject: Moving from S5 to S5MX

>Date: 17 Apr 2003 10:02:52 +0100

>From: "Gilles G. CASANOVA" >Subject: Moving from S5 to S5MX

>Hi Psioneers !

>The S5Mx has the CONTACTS database, which I don't use yet. >Could anyone explain the differences between "Contacts" and the "fiches"( = >french version) databases ?

>How can I open my previous data by tapping the Contacts silkscreen icon ? = >Do I need to convert ? How ?

>Can I merge many databases in One ? How ? and open it withthe silkscreen = >Icon ?

Gilles,

I have used the Contacts of Revo and assume this is similar to that of the S5MX.

My experience is that Contacts is not as flexible as the Data program of the Psion. Contacts is good for basic phone and address needs. But if you have additional fields, you can't create your own custom fields in Contacts. This is where Data is much better.

So in my case, after importing my Data from the S5 into the Revo's Contacts, and finding Contacts inadequate, I had to convert my database to Data on the Revo.

Gary

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Date: 21 Apr 2003 09:59:52 -0500

From: AndyH

Subject: More Gadget Stuff for Sale

Hi All

There are some items still left to sell in preparation for my move to Shetland.

I have still got a PalmTec hardcase and metal stylus. Now down to £6.50 including postage.

Kinetic RISCOS PC. Used for a few weeks but couldn't get on with it. It has acted as a printer stand since. Its got 80mb of RAM, no modem, but has a SCSI card. Cost about £1,200 when I bought it. Includes PC, keyboard, mouse, recovery CD and manual. Anyone interested in making a sensible offer before I put it on Ebay?

Iomega Zip drive 250 parallel. Complete with cables. Offers

Iomega Zip drive 250 scsi. Complete with cables. Offers

Oregon Scientific Projector Clock. This clocks tunes itself to the Rugby transmitter so is always correct and automatically changes at the end and beginning of BST. Includes batteries and a mains power supply. £20 including postage.

Programming Psion Computers book. Dog-eared corners! £15 including postage. (This is available free from EMCCs site in PDF but without the dog-eared corners)

Pegasus 3 modem. Complete with cables for psion, PC and telephone, power supply, literature, driver disk and original packaging. £45 including postage.

HP Jornada 720. Complete with docking station, power supply, cables, manual and original packaging. Original CD missing at the moment but will download Active Sync and burn to CD if I don't find the original. £270 including postage.

I have still got the Motorola 3588 mobile phone. Totally unsuitable for Psion usage and cuts out after a few hours! I thought that someone might be able to use it as a part exchange against something a little more tasty. So how about a new offer? I will pay you £1 to take it away. Must be willing to travel to a village near Horsham, West Sussex.

The above are only available for shipping to the UK.

Andy Hayes

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Date: 21 Apr 2003 11:01:28 -0500

From: salix

Subject: To Michael Degn

Michael,

many thanks for that

best wishes

salix

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Date: 21 Apr 2003 11:40:29 -0500

From: Peter Fristedt

Subject: Cut and paste Program (Aleck Cartwright)

Aleck Cartwright wrote (ED #233): "I used to have a shareware program on my 5mx that enabled me to cut and paste multiple portions of text, like a multiclipboard. ... can't remember the name of it anymore. ... All I need to know is where to get it again."

I think you're looking for ClipIt. I haven't used it myself, but it's available on TuCows:

http://pda.tucows.com/epoc/preview/212472.html

Kind regards,

Peter

Sekreteraren och assistenten, Stockholm

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Date: 21 Apr 2003 18:51:43 -0500

From: mark wills

Subject: mp3 and a 32Mb MMC

To: "Rick Gillyon"

>> From: mark wills

>> Subject: OpD2d app/ headphone jack/ T39 69 mp3

>> I have a T39m mobile and just discovered that

>> ww.expansys.com are selling off the erricsson mp3 player for

>> this phone (including a 32 Mb MMC

>What use is 32MB? Half a CD at Cd Quality...

Well, at FM quality (64Kbits) thats a whole a CD, the OpD2d captured files from voice programs eg Radio 4 The Archers :-) work well at 32Kbits when encoded thats about 2hrs so a whole omnibus and some other programs.

Clearly its not like carrying an iPOD or similar.

Also a MMC to PCMCIA card is avaliable so I can download further tracks using just a netbook when out and about by putting mp3s onto my netBooks CF and then using the PCMCIA to transfer to the MMC.

Hey For 19 ukp its still a bargin but not " I can carry every CD I own with me" solution.

all the best

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Date: 21 Apr 2003 19:17:41 -0500

From: "Hoffman, Susan"

Subject: PsiWin Removal

John Welford asked how his non-tech brother could get rid of an old version of PsiWin. If Uninstall doesn't work, and if the computer is using the home version of Windoze XP, there is a feature called "restore" that lets you get back to a version of the hard drive that worked. I forget where to find it, but a search might work. Pick a date before any of the PsiWin versions were installed, and he might be able to start new with the right version.

Susan Katz Hoffman

Pepper Hamilton LLP--------------

e-mail: hoffmans

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Date: 21 Apr 2003 21:44:08 -0500

From: "John Morris"

Subject: on/off problems with Nokia 6210

Andy Hayes wrote:-

I too used to have this problem with my 6210e (Orange version of 6210i) - the cause was a loose-fitting battery. The fix is to stick a small band of soft plastic on the inside of the battery case, which stops the battery from moving about. My "repair" was effected by Rob Gates of R. Gates Communications in Burwell Cambs (+44(0)1638742203) for anyone in the UK who wants the fix.

Happy Cycling

John Morris

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Date: 21 Apr 2003 22:01:15 -0500

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: ABP on SonyEricsson P800

Dear Sergio,

<< Have a look at: http://www.freepoc.org/index.htm. Malcolm Bryant, author of the Exellent ABP for ER5, also made a Java (scaled down) version that runs on the P800. >>

Thanks for the information.

<< PS: thanks for posting your first impressions about the P800, I'm looking forward for reading the next chapter ;-) >>

I've been working in stages. The first one was to get agenda and contacts transferred, the second to get the P800 linked up to my home PC, the third to get e-mail and Web up and running and the fourth to look for additional tools. I'm now at a point that I can report on my experiences with stages two and three which I'll post on the Digest in a few days.