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Epoc Digest Fri, 09 May 2003 Volume 01 : Number 245

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Sent to: 779 subscribers

In today's Epoc Digest 19 messages:

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- Anti spam measures, to all subscribers

- Mail on a 9210

- EPOC MP3 player software

- RE: reducing photo size

- Contacts sync problem

- MP3 Player

- EPOC Digest Dates,

- RE: reducing photo size

- RE: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 244

- Re: reducing photo size

- Re: RealMaps

- Re: Reducing photo size

- Software Licence Fees (for Rolf B.)

- Re: Reliable battery info/condition apps

- Wallpaper

- Sticky Icon

- Re: S7 Preferred Apps V1 # 243

- Psion Wap Browser & GPRS # 242 (559)

- One specific Email produces a crash

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Date: 09 May 2003

From: Itamar Engelsman & Rolf Vonau

Subject: Anti spam measures, to all subscribers

Dear Subscriber,

Your EPOC DIGEST Team has taken the discussion about the email addresses in the digest into consideration and we have decided on the following two actions :

1/ We re-issued all old digests for the website without any

email addresses in the text and in future we will send a

separate copy of the digest to the website also without any

email addresses.

2/ It will now be possible to request from the DIGEST Team to

replace your email address in all digests with an alias. In

this case also the other subscribers will not see your email

address and you will not be able to receive direct answers

anymore (but you can mention your email address in the text if you like). If you would like us to register an alias, please

send a message to the digest with in the subject field "ALIAS"

and in the text field the alias of your choice. It could

contain your name, or just a number or nickname [no incorrect

(rude) wording please]. If your address already contains a

name, you must not write a new one, but only your request to

hide the internet address.

You can send us your messages now. Don't forget the "ALIAS" in the subject

With best regards,

Itamar Engelsman and Rolf Vonau

The Epoc Digest Team

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Date: 8 May 2003 07:57:23 +0100

From: Ashley Burrows

Subject: Mail on a 9210

Hi all Kevin Thorne wrote/asked

I have currently 325 messages on my 9210 message storage is on D, and have never had a problem opening large mails even with attachments.

The last digest 243 contained 23 messages and opened in 8 seconds.

he also asked <Applications such as the excellent SaveMail solved this problem by clearing out the Email application but no such software exists for the 9210.>

no need I have just created another folder in the mail programme called Epoc. Shift + Ctrl + n and just move all mails digest related in to it with Ctrl + m this removes them from inbox, if you wish to read them again just scroll down to the folder Epoc and there they all are.

So I have inbox, outbox, draft, sent, Then Epoc, after that I have two PC folders one for company mail, one for private mail, these I sync each day, first with home PC then work PC when I get to the Office, plus my own 3 email account folders for different actions I use during the day.

Best wishes

Ashley

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Date: 8 May 2003 08:58:02 +0100

From: Steve Baker

Subject: EPOC MP3 player software

Hi Owen,

All you need to play MP3s on an EPOC device is EPlayM from Alexander

Zavorine's website:

http://www.geocities.com/zavorine/epoc/mp3.htm

There are full details on the page there. It will play any MP3 file, but if

you are 'recording' them yourself, you might want to reduce the quality of the

recording which will reduce the resultant filesize significantly (especially

given the less-than-perfect sound system on the Psions).

Personally, I record and use stuff at 'FM Radio Quality' at 64Kbps; it works

for me, especially as my hearing isn't perfect anyway.

Good luck on your further travels, Owen. Maybe if I'm down in Tenerife over

the winter (possible rather than probable), we may hook up.

Regards,

Steve

Riyadh, Saudi

N: 24° 47.243' E: 46° 42.893'

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Date: 7 May 2003 22:00:15 +0100

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: EPOC MP3 player software

Hi.

I know this has been mentioned before, but I wasn't paying attention at the

time...

Could someone please give a quick overview of what software is required to

play

MP3 files on a Psion, where to get it, what format the files should be in

etc.

I'm thinking of using it for a language course. Any resources for audio books

MP3 format would be very welcome too.

Owen

Thought for the day:

It isn't the whistle that moves the train.

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-953°27.22'N 6°09.05'W

Malahide, Ireland

http://home.no.net/naomij

Phone and SMS:

In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173

In Norway: +47 9205309

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Date: 8 May 2003 09:23:16 +0100

From: Thomas Richter

Subject: RE: reducing photo size

Hi Simon,

> I had 3MB free just now on C when nconvert is running > The original was 1024x768, 434k. (see

> http://www.simon-s.net/05070050.JPG for this pic).

> Nconvert hapily resized it to 200x150, 11k

It seems as if you need at least enough free memory to store both pictures (source and destination) in uncompressed form, using 3 bytes for each pixel.

That makes 1024x768x3 = 2.36 million bytes = 2.25 Megabyte

for your source, 0.09 MByte for the small destination, still fitting into 3 MByte, but 0.88 MByte for the larger destination.

Tom

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Date: 8 May 2003 10:23:42 +0100

From: Wayne & Jane

Subject: Contacts sync problem

Since my last posting I'm still unable to sync past 186 entries. With outlook XP and my ericsson MC218. I have tried repeated syncings but each time it whizzes through the process much faster than it would take to transfer the data from the psion - obviously it has cached the data on the PC somewhere and thinks nothing has changed. Since last emailing it somehow corrupted my outlook.pst file and checkdisk erased the entire thing, so I have lost last months emails.

On resyncing I can now only get 70 entries to transfer. They are spread throughout the contacts list from a - z with no real reason why some entries synch and others don't? I'm lost, is there any other way of getting my info over? Please help.

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Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 10/03/2003

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Date: 8 May 2003 11:23:01 +0100

From: Will Green

Subject: MP3 Player

For Owen;

You can download EPlayM (free MP3 player for EPOC) from;

http://www.geocities.com/zavorine/epoc/mp3.htm

If you need a free MP3 compression ulility (PC based) let me know and I'll email you one off digest.

Cheers,

Will.

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Date: 8 May 2003 13:24:39 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: EPOC Digest Dates,

Answer to: Keith Giles

Re.: EPOC Digest Dates - Your message in the digest actually showed as "Date: 7 May 2003 16:39:01 +0100" and the +0100 is as Michael arranged this digest from Denmark which is one hour ahead of GMT. It is the time of the downloader that is apparently showing here.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 8 May 2003 13:45:41 +0100

From: "Daniele Squarci"

Subject: RE: reducing photo size

Simon wrote:

>> Daniele, here is a quick experiment for you.... <<

Thanks for your help on this, Simon! I have run a series of tests, with the Netbook having 10M free on C and no apps other than nConvert running:

1) I downloaded your 1024x768, 434k original pic. No problem in resizing this to 800x600, 640x480 or smaller.

2) I then took a pic from my camera, 2048x1536, 746k. Tried resizing it to 200x150. No problem, got an 11k file. Then I gradually resized the original to larger and larger copies:

320x240 - 23k

480x360 - 42k

I then tried resizing to 640x480 and here I hit the "out of memory" error. Same on 800x600 and larger.

You can see the files at:

www.squarci.it/original.htm

www.squarci.it/test1.htm

www.squarci.it/test2.htm

www.squarci.it/test3.htm

I conclude that the larger the original and the larger the resized copy, the more free memory is required for the resizing process. Here the trend in digital photography towards higher resolutions hits against the memory size limits in our Psions! But no matter! 480x360 is fine for me!

>> My install of nConvert has bugs <<

Same here! Will have to try reinstalling too!

Ciao

Daniele

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Date: 8 May 2003 14:24:50 +0100

From: "Daniele Squarci"

Subject: RE: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 244

Keith Giles wrote:

>>I'm trying to get the original EPOC logo wallpaper to show up on my Malaysian netBook.<<

I don't have an EPOC logo, but have tried to transfer the Revo logo from my Revo to my Malaysian netBook. I didn't go through PC, but simply IR-beamed the logo to C:\System\Wallpaper on the netBook. Then in Tools>Preferences>Wallpaper I selected the Revo logo. I now have a netBook with a Revo wallpaper. 8-)

You should be able to do the same with the EPOC logo, but you might have to rename it, as there is already a "Epoc Logo" wallpaper on the Malaysian netBook (but comes out as the One-ed dot com logo instead)

Ciao

Daniele Squarci

Italy

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Date: 8 May 2003 16:03:29 +0100

From: U Hornstein

Subject: Re: reducing photo size

Reference is made to the mail in the EPOC DIGEST V1 # 244 : ealasaidandsimon wrote at 2003 14:10:46 +0100 (> ):

> Daniele, here is a quick experiment for you.

I have a very simple solution to offer, but it requires special equipment, which I was happy enough to buy (at the time):

My Camera: a Casio 3000lx

My Psion, a MC218

Both have Infrared.

218 has a ROM app called postcard. Running this, I can transfer a pic of my selecetion from the camera to the Psion. In this process, it gets reduced from say 250kB (or 1MB) to a say 8kB jpg by the camera before sending. Postcard then binds it automagically into a html coded mail, you may add address and some text, one keypress more and it is in the Out folder. I like it, but don't use it often.

And yes, acoording to my knowledge Postcard is SW locked to the 218 ROM, and does not run on anything else than a 218.

I am pretty sure that other cameras can do that transfer function as well.

With greetings from Germany

Ulrich Hornstein

sent by MC218 (EPOC palmto

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Date: 8 May 2003 19:38:17 +0100

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: Re: RealMaps

Howdy!

I wrote (+ ):

+ I use (PsiNMEA) .... but I've never been

+ able to get the chart indexing in RealMaps to work

+ properly.

Alan Morris wrote (> ):

> Are you referring to the indexing of map files for

> zooming or the registration of the Lat/Long of

> each chart?

I can't remember any indexing for zooming in RealMaps. Maybe that's where I got it wrong. It's a long time since I played around with this now, but I can only remember indexing for Lat/Long and that is all that is needed in PsiNMEA.

With PsiNMEA, you give it the lat/long of two points at opposite corners of each map, and everything, including zooming works fine. It doesn't stitch the maps together as nicely as RealMaps is supposed to do though (if you get it right).

> I need to rotate the scan, but can't get it perfect.

I use charts which are screendumped from navigational software on the PC, so I have no problem getting the indexing spot on with PsiNMEA. When I run PsiNMEA and the PC navigation package at the same time, the cursor is always on the exact same spot on the chart on both computers. I tried scanning charts, but couldn't get good enough accuracy for my needs.

What I do when I index a new chart is keep the chart on screen on the PC. Then I place the cursor on the PC on an easily identified spot like a rock, a lighthouse or a buoy, read the lat/long off the cursor position on screen and index the chart in PsiNMEA accordingly. According to the NMEA specs, a talker (GPS) is supposed to be able to drive at least three listeners (computers, autopilots, GPS repeaters etc.) at the same time.

Owen

Thought for the day:

Horse sense is the thing a horse has that keeps it from betting on people.

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-953°27.22'N 6°09.05'W

Malahide, Ireland

http://home.no.net/naomij

Phone and SMS:

In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173

In Norway: +47 92053097

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Date: 8 May 2003 19:38:59 +0100

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: Re: Reducing photo size

Howdy!

Rolf Brunsting wrote: (: ):

: I have, using the same MBMView you refer to.

: ...MBMView doesn't use

: smart resizing, like bicubic resampling, so

: that the resuling photo

: won't be as good as the original.

Daniele Squarci wrote (> ):

> I've tried this, it works, but the result indeed

> leaves a lot to be desired....

For best results, try resizing to a size that is either half or a quarter of the original. For instance, if you're e-mailing a photo where the original is 1600*1200 pixels, try resizing it to 800*600 or 400*300. Even when using proper imaging software, this will give a better result than numbers that don't bear any relation to the original resolution as there will be less interpolation to do. If you're using MBMview, this leaves it with the relatively simple task of removing every other pixel or keeping every fourth and deleting the others.

Since my 2 megapixel camera gives me 1600*1200 originals, I have chosen 533*400 for the photos on my web site. This is 1/3 of the original and works out well with Photoshop even though there is some interpolation to do as 1600 / 3 = 533.3333.... ad infinitum. Resizing to 1/3 should work out well enough in MBMview as well. You could try whether removing one row of pixels so the photo is 1599*1200 before you start makes any difference.

Owen

Thought for the day:

Money will not buy happiness, but it will let you be unhappy in nice places.

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-953°27.22'N 6°09.05'W

Malahide, Ireland

http://home.no.net/naomij

Phone and SMS:

In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173

In Norway: +47 92053097

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Date: 8 May 2003 19:52:56 +0100

From: Philip S. Adkins Potter

Subject: Software Licence Fees (for Rolf B.)

Hi Rolf (inter alia),

I have been told by a software developer, a well-known EPOC developer, that the only obligation of the vendor is to take the money - support is not their responsibility (I think that is legally wrong, and I know it's morally wrong).

But even this person does not ask for more than one fee per program.

As I said, such an attitude is probably indefensible in UK law but the caveat is understandable. I have been given EPOC and SIBO software and been told by the developers that they are glad I have told them of the change in ownership and that they didn't want paying again. Where the developer had disappeared I couldn't anyway (this for SIBO software on the original SSDs).

Actually I have two 5mxs and have volunteered to pay for extra registrations to use relevant software on the spare machine. That was generously declined (and where registrations were tied to machine UIDs extra registrations were given).

This is important as software *is* property and so *is* transferable. Shareware registration fees don't change this - the registrations become the property. I believe the additional registration fee is only required for additional use on an additional machine. This has long been the case with mainstream computer software. Certain software companies (not EPOC or SIBO, I believe) have even tried to prevent people putting their programs on a backup (I jest not) because this means duplicating the program. Some have sued but such cases have always been lost as far as I know.

So if you want to pay again obviously you can, it's your prerogative to use your money as you think fit, but most developers are too honest to accept a second fee for the same software (if they know). If you insist they'll probably give it to charity, as I have done with declined fees.

But it's always best to try to tell the vendor what is happening. Common courtesy demands that.

Sorry,

Phil.

"The wise man knows that he knows nothing;

the fool believes that he knows everything."

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Date: 8 May 2003 22:58:10 +0100

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: Reliable battery info/condition apps

"Daniele Squarci" wrote:-

<< I also use Chadis on my Mako and netBook. There's one thing that puzzles me on the Chadis7 version - what is "dT= xxxx Hrs" supposed to mean? I found no explanation on Kevin Millican's website. >>

I would guess that it's a dy/dx derivative. It's looks like the time since starting to use the battery, after it's been recharged to the point where it shows full voltage; and the Psion is switched on again.

So you can (with care) use it to see how long a battery will last before a recharge.

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion 7 & Nokia 6210e

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Date: 9 May 2003 00:59:26 +0100

From: Darryl Kempster

Subject: Wallpaper

<I'm trying to get the original EPOC logo wallpaper to show up on my Malaysian netBook. Connecting my 5mx to my PC, I copied the logo from the 5mx's Z drive to the PC's C drive. Then I connected the netBook to the PC and moved the logo from the PC's C drive to a wallpaper folder on my netBook, but it won't show up on the screen. I have a lot of other wallpaper files in the folder and they show up fine when selected.

Can this be done? How?>

Keith

I've done this in the past - transferred my Ericsson logo from my MC218 to my series 7 (don't ask me why) If I remember I used MBMView to save the image to sketch then saved to wallpaper, or something. Unfortunately dropped my netbook and wiped hard drive so no longer have MBMView installed (no back-up stupidly - now keep everything on D) but maybe some one with a (registered) copy could make the conversion for you and send you the resulting file.

Darryl

On tour with Electric Six in Leeds

PS Just seen a RangerDisk 2 floppy disk drive for sale - anyone know if this is the same or similar to the RangerDisk3 floppy disk drive used with the Psion Series 3?

PPS Anyone know if a Psion Charge Link will work with a Revo and a netBook?

PPPS Is it possible to print from Opera anyone? If so, how!!!?

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Date: 9 May 2003 01:31:49 +0100

From: Keith Giles

Subject: Sticky Icon

I've been messing about trying to color the SetScreen icon that's on my netBook's Extras bar. I don't know what I did, but the app no longer works. Nothing happens when I click on the icon. I've tried a soft reset, uninstall/reinstall SetScreen, do a find using JB5Utils and deleting every mention of SetScreen. I can find nothing of SetScreen on either my C or D drive. Yet that damned icon still shows up on Extras.

I've gone to Control Panel and put "Any program" for the preferred app where the SetScreen icon appears - nothing. SetScreen still appears on the preferred apps list for Extras.

Any ideas? SARS, maybe? :-)

Happy Cycling,

Keith

Sunnyvale, CA

http://home.attbi.com/~ohsix827/

Thought For The Day: Age is a very high price to pay for maturity.

All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.

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Date: 9 May 2003 04:03:38 +0100

From: Mark Deppe

Subject: Re: S7 Preferred Apps V1 # 243

Keith Giles wrote:

<<< I like to see the coloured icons of those I do use, in the regular Extras section.>>>

TIP: If you hold Ctrl and tap one of the 4 silkscreen buttons on the left you will see the icons, then you have the option of going for speed and saving a click straight to your favourite app or taking the leisurely route and enjoying the pretty colour icon (is this thread about teasing the 5mx owners :-) not my intention I assure you. Out of curiosity what is your favourite colour icon? Mine would probably be "TubeRoute" by Chris Handley its a great app with a good Icon.

My 4 silkscreen buttons are for my frequent apps:

1. Spell

2. Data

3. Phoneman

4. Backup (Ralph Sprenger)

Kind regards

Mark

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Date: 9 May 2003 04:03:53 +0100

From: Mark Deppe

Subject: Psion Wap Browser & GPRS # 242 (559)

Tim Thurston Wrote <<<Email & Web work

fine on the Psion,however I cannot make the

Wap browser that I also have installed work.>>> I have the same with vodafone contract, as far as I am aware there is no workaround, something to do with the phone not needing to dial in like you have to from the psion using *99#. As with You GSM wap brousing dialing in is fine though. See previous digest posting from me on this subject and Rolf Brunsting explanation.

Kind regards

Mark

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Date: 9 May 2003 05:29:11 +0100

From: U Hornstein

Subject: One specific Email produces a crash

Hi group,

something curious:

On one of my mailboxes, I got an automatic answer mail from the admin. If I use the web access, all is fine.

Downloading it with my 218 Email app, this app crashes.

Program: MsvServer

EText

Error code: 12

I then restart the mail app, the modem connection is still active, I can close it with Ct+u or proceed as usual, for example opening another Mailbox.

Did anybody have such a "hot" email?

Workarounds?

I reported this to the admin, no answer so far. He probably thinks a 218 is a piece of crap not worth looking at.

Of course, he is wrong. Very ;-) I never had this happen elsewhere, and I received many hundreds of emails on it.