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Epoc Digest Sat, 10 May 2003 Volume 01 : Number 246

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In today's Epoc Digest 11 messages:

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- Left keys 4 apps

- Nokia 9210i Calendar

- Re: Wallpaper

- Dodgy power connection

- Re: Ref: Dilbert

- nConvert

- Re: Wallpaper

- Preferred Apps; Freddie Starr ate my hamster; EPOC MP3; Farewell -well nearly

- Re : EPOC Logo/Color Icons

- Re: EPOC Digest Dates

- Sale of EPOC Stuff

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Date: 7 May 2003 18:27:45 +0100

From: Tony Cabot

Subject: Left keys 4 apps

To Kevin Collins Subject: apps stored on the 4 numbered left-side silk keys?

for me:

1 CodeSafe

2 JB5StopGo

3 RealMaps

4 EBook

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Date: 9 May 2003 08:29:46 +0100

From: Edward Choi

Subject: Nokia 9210i Calendar

Hi,

Just wondering if any nokia 9210i user manage to set their calendar storage to the memory card instead on the phone memory. It's taking up all the space on phone and its getting slower day by day. Any suggestion?

Thanks in advance,

Edward.C

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Date: 9 May 2003 08:46:50 +0100

From: Marcus von Cube

Subject: Re: Wallpaper

Keith,

>>I copied the logo from the 5mx's Z drive to the PC's C drive<<

That's the problem. In order to save memory, file formats on Z (APP and MBM) are physically different from their external file system counterparts. Part of the neccessary decoding for running the APP or displaying the image is already carried out on the Z drive file versions. The ROM is memory mapped and files are used "in place" if possible.

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

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Date: 9 May 2003 11:32:42 +0100

From: Keith Clarke

Subject: Dodgy power connection

My 5mx power connection has been on the blink for some time: the welcome green light only putting in an occasional appearance these days. It's the bit inside the case, since it does the same with two separate power connectors. Not the end of the world, but the end of rather more batteries than I am used to. Anyone have any bright ideas?

Keith Clarke

_________________________________________________________________

Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online

http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Date: 9 May 2003 13:08:12 +0100

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: Re: Ref: Dilbert

Howdy!

Rolf Brunsting wrote (> ):

> You'd have to ask the

> Digest duty editor to send 'your' cartoon of 27/4

> as an attachment to the Digest to ensure that

> other subscribers know what you're aiming at.

Thanks, but no thanks. If the digest team start sending out attachments with the digest, I'll be the first to unsubscribe. I'm giving way too much of my hard earned cash to Vodaphone Ireland as it is.

Owen

Thought for the day:

A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are for.

- John A. Shedd

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-953°27.22'N 6°09.05'W

Malahide, Ireland

http://home.no.net/naomij

Phone and SMS:

In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173

In Norway: +47 92053097

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Date: 9 May 2003 13:08:48 +0100

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: nConvert

Howdy!

> My install of nConvert has bugs, not least of

> which is that when you open the app it offers 2

> identical "Image Conversion" lines, and the first

> attempt at conversion always fails with a "not

> supported" message.

I have this too. For a while I only had it on the MC218 and then it suddenly appeared on the Mako as well. I wrote Neuon about it a long time ago, but didn't get any real answer.

> Maybe you (and I!) simply

> need to uninstalland reinstall?

How do you uninstall nConvert? There are so many little parts of it installed which all have their own line in Add/Remove.d I've never been able to figure out which belong to nConvert and which belong to other Neuon applications. It's all rather messy.

Owen

Thought for the day:

Patience is something that you admire greatly in the driver behind you but not in the one ahead of you.

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-953°27.22'N 6°09.05'W

Malahide, Ireland

http://home.no.net/naomij

Phone and SMS:

In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173

In Norway: +47 92053097

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Date: 9 May 2003 13:09:27 +0100

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: Re: Wallpaper

Howdy!

Keith Giles wrote (> ):

> Connecting my

> 5mx to my PC, I copied the logo from the 5mx's Z

> drive to the PC's C drive. Then I connected the

> netBook to the PC and moved the logo from the PC's

> C drive to a wallpaper folder on my netBook, but

> it won't show up on the screen.

I've never bothered with wallpapers on my mx or MC218, but assuming you know how to create one (is it just an MBM?), one possibility would be to display the wallpaper on the mx, take a screendump (Ctrl+Shift+Fn+S) and edit the resulting bitmap to make a wallpaper file.

Owen

Thought for the day:

It's noble to be good, and it's nobler to teach others to be good, and less trouble.

- Mark Twain

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-953°27.22'N 6°09.05'W

Malahide, Ireland

http://home.no.net/naomij

Phone and SMS:

In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173

In Norway: +47 92053097

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Date: 10 May 2003 02:21:11 +0100

From: Kevin Collins

Subject: Preferred Apps; Freddie Starr ate my hamster; EPOC MP3; Farewell -well nearly

Hi folks...

Re: S7 Preferred Apps

Well, my question from curiosity yielded a good number of answers, thank you all...and if I had Itamar's knowhow, I could nearly publish a spreadsheet on the subject <g>...

Well, from the straw poll, banking programmes, and Chasdis7, did very well, as did Navigator; otherwise things were varied..

Some respondents, Keith Giles, in particular, chose to use the Preferred Apps to *hide* files... Keith, you know I have seen your Color Magic, and I can understand how you would want to hide it <VBG>, only joking Mr Blue :-)

Seriously, I thought about Backup, and Edgar Brazda's reply influenced me to put this, IMHO the best ?10 shareware I have purchased, back on my list...so

it is now no.4 in lieu of ExtraBars (see separate posting hereunder)!

And then, Rolf Brunstig mentioned Allegro, which I received free gratis from Exportech with my back-up 5mx, but which I had never even opened... so I decided to do so and install it: well, I am fairly impresssed, could well get used to it, my only reservation being that I fear scratching the screen...am I being over cautious in this regard?

And again, thanks to all who shared their ideas... :-)

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Re: Freddie Starr ate my hamster!

Well, not quite (just getting your attention <g>), but ExtraBars has eaten the app next to Calc on my S7!

To explain: I had SignIt as the app first next to the Calc silk key on the right, and had occasion at times to open SignIt by pressing Ctrl+Calc to start the latter. This worked fine - and still will - when ExtraBars app is closed.

However, when ExtraBars app is *open*, no matter where its icon is on the Extras bar, Ctrl+Calc opens ExtraBars, and not SignIt! I even tried a hard reset (no problem with BackUp: just backup, then restore), but to no avail.

Of course, I obviously decided then to place ExtraBars as the app next to Calc, and this solves my problem ostensibly... but what is wrong here? Anyone else expereience this (not a major) matter, please?

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Re: EPOC MP3 Software

Owen Morgan wrote (> ):

> Could someone please give a quick overview of what

> software is required to play MP3 files on a Psion, where

> to get it, what format the files should be in etc. I'm

> thinking of using it for a language course. Any

> resources for audio books in MP3 format would be very

> welcome too.

Hi Owen,

My experience in this matter is that (for music files anyway) the freeware EPlayM works fine on S7, but not well at all on Revo or 5mx.... As to whether voice files would be a problem, I'm not sure, in fact probably not, so for their purpose, I would be inclined to try EPlayM for starters (www.zavorine.com/epoc). However, for any semblance of quality (is this a non sequitor?) on a 5mx or Revo, when it comes to music files anyway, you may need Audio, 12 euro shareware, quite good value (also works free but with song-stopping unacceptable nags). The makers are Viking Informatics, Hungary...don't have URL to hand but Google should help you...(www.viking.hu perhaps, if I recall?)

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Re: Farewell - well nearly

To Andy Hayes, who wrote (>):

> My days of EPOCness are coming to an end...

Hi Andy,

I'm sure this will all work out for you...the Lord works in mysterious ways...... good luck in Shetland, and I hope we'll hear from you on Epoc - or other subjects - again. For my part, you've been of great help (off-Digest,

as well as on) on this forum, and on previous preincarnations thereof, as long as I can remember, so God speed, and keep in touch!

Regards,

Kevin [Cork, Ireland]

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Date: 10 May 2003 02:21:39 +0100

From: Keith Giles

Subject: Re : EPOC Logo/Color Icons

Thanks to all who answered my query. Michael Degn was kind enough to send me the EPOC logo and it is successfully installed in the netBooks wallpaper folder.

Several of you told me about using the Ctrl key along with the 4 user silkscreens to be able to see those icons. I didn't know about that. But I still like using those to be able hide 4 apps I never use.

Mark Deppe asked me what my favorite color icon is. That's exactly like many of my friends asking me in which Western European country I like to cycle best. The only answer I can honestly give to Mark and to my friends is, "I like them all!" Correction, I think Bombs' icon stinks. :-)

Happy Cycling,

Keith

Sunnyvale, CA

http://home.attbi.com/~ohsix827/

Thought For The Day: Time, Tide, and my bladder, wait for no man. I just made that up. I tell my friends that I have marked half the trees in Western Europe. :-)

All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.

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Date: 10 May 2003 18:48:00 +0100

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: EPOC Digest Dates

Itamar Engelsman wrote:-

<< message in the digest actually showed as "Date: 7 May 2003 16:39:01 +0100" and the +0100 is as Michael arranged this digest from Denmark which is one hour ahead of GMT. It is the time of the downloader that is apparently showing here. >>

Itamar, I recall checking the time of one of my postings to the list and saw that the time was the same as sent (EPOC uses time sent, IE uses time typed and not time sent). It looks like the downloader's time zone replaces the sender's zone, but _not_ the time.

Could this be connected to the PsiWin backup problem after a BST hour change? I'm of the opinion that it's not PsiWin, but the way M$ and EPOC store file times. DOS (still used by Windows) does not know about time zones in it's directory entries (I researched these entries extensively when long file names were introduced into DOS). But as Psions are designed to be moved between time zones, I guess that the file's time is related to GMT, and displayed according to the local Psion time.

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion 7 & Nokia 6210e

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Date: 10 May 2003 21:50:20 +0100

From: Andy Hayes

Subject: Sale of EPOC Stuff

Hi All

The following items have now been sold: -

Personal Accounts and Expenses

En Route and Route Planner Millenium

Parallel print cable for 5/7 etc

Pegasus Modem

Photoshop 5LE

Nokia 6210e

In car holder

Still remaining are Navigator, Powerbase, Street Planner 99 & SP2K Upgrade, Berlitz Phrase Book and CoBuild English Dictionary all at £20 each. A UK psu for netBook or 7 at £15. Programming Psion Computers book £12. Free stuff (well £1.50 in stamps!) still remaining are PsiMail, Symantec ACT!, Data Deluxe and a 3a parallel printer cable. Non-Psion stuff remaining are Corel Gallery Magic and Mandrake Linux at £15 each. Star Office 5.2 at £20 and Suse Linux 7.2 Pro at £30.