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Epoc Digest      Tue, 13 May 2003     Volume 01 : Number 248

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Sent to:  774 subscribers


In today's Epoc Digest 17 messages:

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- MnetBooks for sale

- Re: Wallpaper (EPOC DIGEST V1 # 244)

- Palm Calendar

- "TubeRoute", One specific Email crash, Dodgy power connection, attachments

- Usage of EPOC machine

- Bombs icon

- Re: Ian Dean, reminiscence

- Re: Freddie Starr ate my hamster! (aka ExtraBars/Calc silkscreen)

- Re: One More S7

- 9210i calendar

- Re: Vikings in Hungary

- Re: nConvert bugs

- Data Costs

- Foreign Dictionaries & netBook Wallpaper in Clock 5

- power connection, Psion 5..., cable,

- Accented characters on the Mako / Revo

- PCMCIAFlash drives.


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Date: 11 May 2003 17:23:28 +0100

From: Alexei

Subject: MnetBooks for sale


Good day,


Just  in case anyone interested, there are some MnetBooks available at around GBP 180.

I quote the offer from Mr. ASRI:


I have some limited MnetBook stock arriving soon. New units, about 5-7 units. Selling for RM1000. Email me personally or call 016-2471151 if you are interested.


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Date: 11 May 2003 20:16:54 +0100

From: David Steer \(Plus\)

Subject: Re: Wallpaper (EPOC DIGEST V1 # 244)


Kieth,


If you have placed the original Epoc Logo in the System\Wallpaper directory on either c: or d: drive, then it will show up.  You will be able to prove this by going to the system screen and selecting the file from the Tools-> preferences menu.  I seem to remember that you use PsiWallpaper on you 5mx. If that is true and you are using it on your NetBook, then there is an option (set on by default) to stop the EPOC Logo from being one of the images available when the wallpapers are changed.


Hope this helps.


David Steer


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Date: 11 May 2003 22:58:09 +0100

From: Sanjay Chawla

Subject: Palm Calendar


I have recently come upon a Tungsten T.  It is a very nice device but certainly not the same capabilites of the Psion devices, although the RealOne mp3 player is a nice feature.


I know people have described how to transfer an Agenda file to Palm's calendar via a Pc.  I do not have M$ Outlook but I would still like to try this transfer.  Can someone tell me how to do this?


Sanjay Chawla


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Date: 11 May 2003 23:34:08 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: "TubeRoute", One specific Email crash, Dodgy power connection, attachments


Answer to: Mark Deppe


Re.: "TubeRoute" - What is TubeRoute ?  Where can one find it ?  I remember a program like that existed for the series 3 for the London tube but never heard of a similar program for the S7 ?


Answer to: Ulrich Hornstein


Re. One specific Email produces a crash - Yes, I do have this from time to time as well and I also don't know why this happens. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.


Answer to: Keith Clarke


Re. Dodgy power connection - Yes, buy the serial cable with including power connection. The 5MX will be connected to the mains via that cable instead of the power lead. I can't find in the archive when this was discussed, but hopefully someone else will give you the details where to but this cable (I am currently traveling).


Answer to: Owen


Re. attachments - Don't worry Owen, there are no plans to send attachments with the digest.



Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK


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Date: 11 May 2003 23:34:17 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Usage of EPOC machine


I have a new question for you all. Who uses his EPOC machine exclusively as their man computer without other computer equipment besides it ? And what do you use it for and which programs ?


Personally I need the PC for my photography work with scanner and printer, downloading up to 700 photos from weddings and functions onto my PC, sorting them and preparing these for the lab and burning the to be printed images to a CD. I could never do that on a Psion. However, I use my Psion exclusively for 1/ email, 2/ databases, 3/ typing of personal letters, 4/ keeping business data on hand in Data and sheet, 5/ my diary and 6/ management of my business contacts in the To-Do part of Agenda.


Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK


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Date: 12 May 2003 00:06:08 +0100

From: Kevin Collins

Subject: Bombs icon


Hi folks...


Keith Giles wrote (> ):


> Correction, I think

> Bombs' icon stinks. :-)


Hi Keith,


I agree, it does.  Did you know that there is a small app entitled "No Extras", which can remove Bombs (and also Comms) from your Extras Bar?  I am sending it to you off list...


--

Regards,

Kevin  [Cork, Ireland]


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Date: 12 May 2003 07:02:53 +0100

From: Fer

Subject: Re: Ian Dean, reminiscence




yes, you have phrase it very nicely...


my case was pretty different, but arrived to the same conclusion. 2001, decided to buy a PDA, i knew the psion because lived in UK for years... however thought it was not good idea to buy a product born in the nineties... with discontinued production at the present.


I looked and looked and find nothing like psion, specially when working with texts...

I finally bought a 5mx ....it is amazing and i am not even using to 25% of the potential, because we got a PC+adsl not long after.



regards,

fer

SKorea


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Date: 12 May 2003 07:09:03 +0100

From: martin

Subject: Re: Freddie Starr ate my hamster! (aka ExtraBars/Calc silkscreen)


Reply to: Kevin Collins


Hi Kevin,


>>>>

... ExtraBars has eaten the app next to Calc on my S7! To explain: I had SignIt as the app first next to the Calc silk key on the right, and had occasion at times to open SignIt by pressing Ctrl+Calc to start the latter. This worked fine - and still will - when ExtraBars app is closed.

However, when ExtraBars app is *open*, no matter where its icon is on the Extras bar, Ctrl+Calc opens ExtraBars, and not SignIt! I even tried a hard reset (no problem with BackUp: just backup, then restore), but to no avail. Of course, I obviously decided then to place ExtraBars as the app next to Calc, and this solves my problem ostensibly... but what is wrong here? Anyone else expereience this (not a major) matter, please?

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In the ExtraBars menu, goto Tools | Startup Preferences and untick 'Capture Extras button.  You'll now have full control of your Ctrl+Calc combo. again.


The reason for this is that Jason Kneen never got around to updating ExtraBars to take account for the S7's/nB's 10 application silkscreen buttons v's the 5/5mx's 8.  Hence if you have the 'Capture Extras button' option ticked, it captures the 8th button - the Calc button on these machines.  In your case, you also had the 'Extras button modifier' set to 'Ctrl'.


However, it's a fairly simple matter for someone with a little knowledge of EPOC programming to scan the application looking for the pointers to the 8th button and change them to pointers for the 10th button - which is exactly what I've done.  Hence ExtraBars' Extras button capture works correctly on my machine.  :-)  In fact, I've almost finished an article for FoxPop which explains how to get ExtraBars working in glorious colour (and with this fix of course) on the S7/nB/nP - with this patch as a download.  It'll be in the June edition I'm afraid as I've already go another article going to the presses for May (should be out in the next few days I'm told).  However, if anyone would like a copy of the patch file (and/or a preview of the

article), contact me off-digest and I'll send it.


Best regards,

Martin Guthrie

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www.pscience5.net

www.freepoc.org


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Date: 12 May 2003 07:39:41 +0100

From: Andrew Gregory

Subject: Re: One More S7


To renee ford:


I am too late, or has your S7 already been ditched? I ask because I'd be interested in the 'personality module'. I've done a little investigation into Series 7/netbook personality modules with the view to reprogramming them. In particular to reprogram malaybooks into proper netbooks. I've pinned out most of my malaybook personality module, but I'm very reluctant to fiddle any further with it.


So this is really just a call in general... any unused personality modules of any sort lying around out there??? Of course, I'd pay any postage costs. Extra costs by negotiation :-)

--

Andrew Gregory,

<URL:http://www.scsoftware.com.au/family/andrew/>


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Date: 12 May 2003 08:34:00 +0100

From: Steve Litchfield

Subject: 9210i calendar


In answer to the question about the 9210 calendar, the trick is to purge it occasionally with the 'Move/Delete' command. Nokia could have made this one a little more intuitive, methinks! ____________________________________________________________________

Steve Litchfield, 3-Lib, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/

For Psion/Symbian and Palm OS, with computer-based training on CD

Also PocketInfo, for useful files - http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/pocketinfo Journalism: sub-editor and/or senior contributor to:

Palmtop User - http://www.palmtop.co.uk/

PDA Essentials - http://www.paragon.co.uk/mags/pdaessentials.html

PC Basics - http://www.paragon.co.uk/mags/pcbasics.html


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Date: 12 May 2003 09:48:32 +0100

From: Jack

Subject: Re: Vikings in Hungary


To Owen

>>...Vikings in Hungary? Never heard of such a thing!<<<<

Re

Hi Owen and others sailors round here,

Vikings have sailed through the trade routes from Sweden down the rivers, particularly the Don and the Dnieper

...Among their neighbours was the empire of the Khazars, stretching around the Black Sea  from the Danube to the Caspian...

A "Rus" (= swedish viking) Svyatoslav crossed the Danube in 967

More at :

http://www.geocities.com/egfrothos/rus/rus.html

Jack

"Messaging X Epoc Email liberates from (anti)viruses, worms, horses..."


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Date: 12 May 2003 17:44:59 +0100

From: ealasaidandsimon

Subject: Re: nConvert bugs


>How do you uninstall nConvert? There are so many little parts of it<snip>It's all rather messy.


Well Owen maybe that's why I have never got round to it. And maybe also, as a number of people are reporting this bug, it's just a quirk of the software that we have to live with!


Simon


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Date: 12 May 2003 20:32:01 +0100

From: Andy Hayes

Subject: Data Costs


Hi All


I currently have T-Mobile on contract and as pay as you go as well as Orange on payg. As I am moving to Shetland in about 3 weeks I am wondering what to do about my mobile phone accounts. T-Mobile includes 200 minutes any time, but this doesn't include data calls. I think that my TMobile payg data calls are being charged at 30p per min, eek! Orange doesn't seem to include data on payg, although I am sure that someone proved this wrong in the past.


So what I need to know is which UK providers include data calls in the inclusive minutes on contract agreements? Also I am correct in thinking that it is only TMobile and Virgin that issue data enabled payg phones in the UK. (Sorry Mike, you must have answered this one a 1,000 times by now!). Note my comment regarding Orange in the previous paragraph.


I am loathe to have a BT line due to the lack of competition in the local loop.


Thanks


Andy Hayes


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Date: 12 May 2003 20:41:07 +0100

From: Gary Jenkinson

Subject: Foreign Dictionaries & netBook Wallpaper in Clock 5


Hi All,


Despite searching previous Digests I can't find the entry where a fellow

subscriber offered to send/direct anyone interested in getting foreign

dictionaries installed on their Psions. If this is still available please

could you let me know? (and where I would need to install them on my netBook

please!)


Also, could someone tell me how I can get the netBook wallpaper image back

onto my system? For some reason this image has become corrupted when I

choose it to run as a logo (screensaver image) within Clock 5. When I choose

EPOC, all I get is as a elongated bar with grey colour graduated boxes

within it, and when I choose Psion I get what looks like a small pair of

binoculars dashing around the screen! Surprise, surprise the only one which

seems to work is the Clock 5 logo!


Many thanks


Gary Jenkinson


email:  <mailto:garyjenkinson

Tel/Fax/Ansaphone: +44 (0) 2476 361242



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Date: 12 May 2003 21:04:51 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: power connection, Psion 5..., cable,


Answer to: renee ford


Re.: power connection - It could be far cheaper to search for the serial cable that will double as a power connection instead of sending in your 5MX for a repair.


Answer to: Ian Dean


Re. Psion 5... - The replacement of a S5 is ... an S5(MX) <BG>. But seriously, if you don't carry it with you in a pocket or on your belt daily and can either fit it in a briefcase or hold it in your hand, try the S7 (second hand) or the netBook. With the colour screen and better speed and expandable memory and CF cards it is a true alternative. There are today several full fledged PC's the size of an A3 paper, amazing machines really, but expensive and also not pocketable. Next best, one of the other Palmtops with a foldable keyboard ? I am not sure.


Answer to: Owen H. Morgan


Re. cable - I will try and find it in the old Palmtop magazines in the office, but will only be back on Thursday. Knowing myself <G>, send me a reminder on Thursday


Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK


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Date: 12 May 2003 21:40:03 +0100

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: Accented characters on the Mako / Revo


Hi.


This may be old news to everyone else, but I just discovered it by accident. Even though it's not marked on the keyboard, the five keys z, x, c, v, b on the left bottom row of my Mako keyboard can be used with the Fn key to type accented characters. Typing "Fn+z" followed by "a" produces "δ" (an a with two dots above it for those whose e-mail readers mess this up). Following the Fn+key combination with space will produce just the accent on its own. They are ¨ ` ΄ ˜ ˆ.


I've now used my CD-pen to mark the accents on the lower edge of the keys. I wish I'd known this before, as it would have saved me a lot of Ctrl+Shift+C... I still need Alexander Zavorines excellent keyboard mapper (www.zavorine.com/epoc) for the special Norwegian characters though (ζψε, ΖΨΕ)


Owen


Thought for the day:

Compromise: The fine art of making sure that nobody gets what they really want.

--

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-953°27.22'N 6°09.05'W

Malahide, Ireland


http://home.no.net/naomij

Phone and SMS:

In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173

In Norway: +47 9205309


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Date: 12 May 2003 21:40:12 +0100

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: PCMCIAFlash drives.


Hi


This is a bit OT for the list, but should hopefully be of interest to S7 and NetBook users even though my reason for asking is PC related.


I would like to know where to find solid state PCMCIA flash drives and what capacities are available. I would assume that a PCMCIA flash disk is cheaper than an equivalent CF, so S7 and NetBook users looking for large capacity storage might also find it interesting.


My reason for asking is that I would like to be able to put the charts for my PC based chart plotter (yacht navigation) software onto a flash drive. This would save electricity on the PC by being able to stop the hard-disk spinning and would also be less vulnerable to knocks and bangs when sailing in heavy weather than a spinning harddisk. The minimum size I'd be interested in is 500mB. 1.2Gb, would be better as that would have room for all the charts at the same time and 2Gb or more even better if it's possible to install WindoZe on the flash drive and make it bootable.


Owen


Thought for the day:


The probability of a young man meeting a desirable and receptive young female increases by pyramidal progression when he is already in the company of:

1. a date,

2. his wife,

3. a better looking and richer male friend.

--

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-953°27.22'N 6°09.05'W

Malahide, Ireland


http://home.no.net/naomij

Phone and SMS:

In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173

In Norway: +47 9205309


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