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Epoc Digest Fri, 06 Jun 2003 Volume 01 : Number 273

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In today's Epoc Digest 14 messages:

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- Epoc News 6th June 2003

- Re: GPRS and WAP browser # 270 (6)

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 272 (3)

- Opera

- netbook & WiFi

- Reemergence of Psion.

- T68i/5mx

- Re: ME45 Siemens /

- Re: Web 2, Opera 0

- How to execute 'Extras' (ROM application)

- Re: Probable Virus from the Digest,

- Re: SmtpAuth updated

- RE: Emulator and W2K

- S7/netbook vehicle power kit

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Date: 6 Jun 2003 10:24:25 +0000

From: Epoc Digest

Subject: Epoc News 6th June 2003

To: didier

- Since Digest #268

To: ketil-k

To: algis

- Since Digest #270

All digests sent to you have been returned with the message "permanent fatal error".

We have had no choice but to discontinue your subscription because returned digests take up alot of space in the mailbox. Hopefully, you are able to read this from another source and re-subscribe at a later time.

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To: jengp

Since Digest #270 , all digests sent to you have been returned by your internet service provider due to anti-spam measures.

We have had no choice but to discontinue your subscription for one week because returned digests take up alot of space in the mailbox. Hopefully, you are able to read this from another source and contact your ISP to correct the problem.

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Thank you for your kind attention.

Best regards,

Dick Chatjaval

Epoc Digest Team

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Date: 5 Jun 2003 15:49:19 +0000

From: Malcolm J. Demanuele

Subject: Re: GPRS and WAP browser # 270 (6)

"Oh I see, is there a work around? it does not reset my machine or really give an error (as in a message other than gateway timed out) it just doesn;t work"

Yes, there is a work around - You leave that string blank, and enter the APN on the phone.

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Date: 5 Jun 2003 16:30:10 +0000

From: Trygve Henriksen

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 272 (3)

Greetings!

Rolf Vonau wrote:

> Hi Itamar and all,

> one of our subscribers found an interesting solution:

> http://spamarrest.com

> Each private email sender (including the Epocdigest) has to

> verificate himself one time at this site.

Oh yes... that one...

It's very _popular_ on high-volume mailing lists...

On some lists the admin deletes subscribers using this crap because the response mail goes to every member of the list.

Many support centers ignore people using this and similar services because of the extra hassle.

And what it does to automated emails from online stores and such I will leave to your imagination...

Anyway, people using a Windaft PC to read email can look at this site:

www.mailwasher.net

Their product is simple to use, free and works well together with most email programs.

Then there's www.spamtrap.net

This is a service similar to the spam.n-dream.com site I mentioned earlier, but this one is hosted in Australia, costs $33 a year(No idea of which $) and you must change the settings in your email program slightly.

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> in the last time more and more providers return our digest back as

> spam. Please make sure together with your provider, that the Epocdigest

> passes through the spam filters.

> A good (serious) provider offers a white list for sender addresses mails

> from which will be let through.

A REALLY good provider allows you to specify allowed subject fields...

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Itamar Engelsman wrote:

> Two advantages of Web above Opera. The first one is that when you

> download with Web you get a nice %-bar showing how far advanced the

> download is, with Opera you do not and have to wait "in the darkness"

> until the download has been completed. The second one is that Opera

> (v 3.62) cannot open a second window while Web can, although of

> course on top of the first one.

Opera V5.14 can also open a second or third window.

Whether or not that's an advantage is open to discussion.

(Some sites' pop-ups and pop-unders will cause new windows to open in Opera)

But don't forget that Opera can do HTTPS and some Java crap...

(Yes, I can log in to a netbank in Norway :-)

:-)

Trygve

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Date: 5 Jun 2003 19:59:42 +0000

From: Philip S. Adkins Potter

Subject: Opera

Hi Itamar,

When you said "Two advantages of Web above Opera. The first one is that when you download with Web you get a nice %-bar showing how far advanced the download is, with Opera you do not and have to wait "in the darkness" until the download has been completed. The second one is that Opera (v 3.62) cannot open a second window while Web can, although of course on top of the first one." it made me think - not about my version of Opera but yours.

I thought that Opera was freely upgradable to 5.14 for your EPOC machine. Opera 5.14 is definitely not perfect but it has:

a) a download function with a percentage indicator (numerical not graphical)

and

b) windows.

Like most EPOC programs (though obviously not Web unless it is so configured) Opera's windows are obscured by the top one. The downloads are in a separate window too.

Of course Opera (5.14) leaks memory like a sieve, over 750 KB for me sometimes, and can crash but it is a vast improvement on Psion's Web if you can cope with the memory overhead. Web is useful and more stable (and free) but 5.14 is very useful if you can spare the RAM. You need a CF card really (to move the cache you have to edit the .ini file).

I usually use Opera, only using Web for important reasons when Opera crashes, which might seem daft - but I prefer the way Opera works. And Web crashes too.

One nice thing about both - most ad-spawned windows (like operamail's) won't load!

Happy days,

Phil.

"To stay young requires unceasing cultivation

of the ability to unlearn old falsehoods."

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Date: 5 Jun 2003 20:24:50 +0000

From: ian chapple

Subject: netbook & WiFi

Reply to Kevin:

>> How easy and how much does it cost to set up a Wi-Fi connection on a netBook?<<

I bought a Buffalo low profile WiFi card for €95 over here in Holland; this connects to a Draytek router (with ISDN backup), which cost €289, though you can almost certainly buy much cheaper ones. Setting things up on the netbook is really easy; I had mine up and running within 5 minutes, although the router had already been set up using my PC. The Buffalo card does support 128bit WEP (this is the encryption that WiFi uses), but my wife's apple iBook in combination with the router only allows 64bit WEP, so that's what we're using.

I thought the cost was quite reasonable, especially as the alternative was laying 40m of Ethernet cable up to the attic. Mind you, I had to buy a netbook from David Lowe (£440, including the 32MB DIMM) to be able to use WiFi in the first place, which puts the total price up considerably, plus a I had to buy 2 USB WiFi adapters for my Windows XP PC; the first one was from Sitecom, and was a load of rubbish, so I had to buy another one from NetGear, which works far better and only cost half as much...

Our home situation is a bit unusual (Windows PC, Psion and iBook all on the one network), but for Internetting and emailing it all works extremely well. I have been pleasantly surprised by how good the netbook is, having previously used a 7 for emailing, although it was not much good for Internetting; the netbook with Opera, WiFi and ADSL is extremely capable, and I love being able to check my email in about 10 seconds flat, especilly when compared to the minute or so it takes my wife's iBook just to come out of standby. I've also started managing our homepage from the netbook, although I had to install RMRFTP, as nFTP didn't appear to be able to connect to my ISPs webserver

I hope this helps, Ian.

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Date: 5 Jun 2003 21:14:18 +0000

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Reemergence of Psion.

Well that's the headline of a 'mail in real time' article in Communication News. It's June edition arrived by Royal Mail today.

Quote:-

" Psion, the company whose handheld operating system formed the initial basis for the Symbian OS, developed in alliance with the likes of Nokia, Motorola and Ericson, is due to return to the fore with a corporate server-based offering, Transcend Mail.

Transcend will be tailored for Symbian-based smartphones, which include the SonyEricson P800 and Nokia 7650 and 3650, and will not be compatible with other PDAs and laptops.

.......

The Transcend server detects when an email has been received at the server and 'pushes' it out to the handset using GPRS, minus any attachments, which can be retrospectively requested.

The solution will also give real-time and synchronised use of contacts and calendar using the applications already on the smartphone. "

They give some URLs, but I've not had a look yet.

www.psionsoftware.com

www.o2.co.uk/xmail

www.nokia.com/nokiaone

www.orange.co.uk/business/officefreedom

I particularly liked the way they handle attachments.

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion 7 & Nokia 6210e

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Date: 5 Jun 2003 22:15:35 +0000

From: PRAR

Subject: T68i/5mx

Argh!

I've just spend half an hour in the company of Google and old digests (and the odd 404) but I can only find people asking for T68i settings to use with Psions for plain CSD (not GPRS): nobody seems to have posted the answer? Could somebody who actually has the answer please let on...

PRAR

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Date: 6 Jun 2003 08:59:32 +0000

From: Dick Chatjaval

Subject: Re: ME45 Siemens /

To Daniele Squarci

>>I use the Siemens ME45 (ruggedised version of S45, same insides) with my Mako and netBook. Works fine with both GSM and GPRS, once I had got all settings sorted out. Battery life is 2 days+.

Your connection problems in the shop were probably due to incorrect settings or for the SIM not being data-enabled.<<

Hi Daniele, thank you for your reply. The S45 was sold when I returned but I noticed it was abit 'plasticy'. I like the ruggedness of the ME45 version but both ME and S45 are now out of stock.

Would you mind posting please the setting on your Mako and netbook for ME45. Many thanks.

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To: Mike McConnell

>>No, CSD is the normal 9600 bps "Circuit Switched Data" connection where HSCSD is "High Speed Circuit Switched Data".<<

Hi Mike, many thanks for clarifying this.

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Best regards,

Dick

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Date: 6 Jun 2003 09:54:54 +0000

From: Chris S Handley

Subject: Re: Web 2, Opera 0

Itamar Engelsman wrote:

> Two advantages of Web above Opera. The first one is that when

> you download with Web you get a nice %-bar showing how far

> advanced the download is, with Opera you do not and have to

> wait "in the darkness" until the download has been completed.

What about the Transfer Window (Ctrl Shift I) in Opera? This means you can be downloading (several) files while still browsing the web.

The best thing is of obviously to have both Web & Opera installed. (Oh, and Grand Rapid while you are at it).

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Chris Handley

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Date: 6 Jun 2003 10:08:47 +0000

From: U Hornstein

Subject: How to execute 'Extras' (ROM application)

Hello Psion experts,

my setup: in order to have fast access to my apps and documents, I have used the silk screen keys Clipboard, IR, Zoom out and Extras for calling extrabars (from the appplication Extrabar). So a click to one of these silk screen keys offers the selection of up to 40 apps/documents/Macros/... .

With this technique, I can reach all of my important MC218 apps and documents within 2 penclicks. For the curious ones: I used separate bars for tools, games, documents, applications.

The disadvantage: if I install a new app for testing, I can not access it immediately, since the Extras Button (bottom, very right on the screen) opens up the intended Extrabar page. So I have to either introduce the Test-app (which often gets deleted soon again) into Extrabar or I have to close Extrabar in order to start the original Extras button. Not so convenient for a lazy click-man like me.

Who knows how I can execute the ROM program "Extras" (The one which shows all the installed applications after a tip on the original Extras button)? I searched for the likely name without sucess. I want to assign this command to one of extrabar's 40 apps.

Sorry if this seems complicated, but every Extrabar user will probably (hopefully) understand.

With greetings from Germany

Ulrich Hornstein

sent by MC218 (EPOC palmtop)

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Date: 6 Jun 2003 10:08:53 +0000

From: U Hornstein

Subject: Re: Probable Virus from the Digest,

Reference is made to the mail in the EPOC DIGEST V1 # 271 (6) : Itamar Engelsman wrote at 2003 16:45:49 +0000 (> ):

> Answer to: Harold Fuchs

> Request : Could the people just hitting the return

> button resulting in a subject line like "Re: [EPOC

> DIGEST V1 # 266 (1)]" please take the little effort to

> change the Subject field to the subject of their message

> ? Thank you.

Just for info:

the digest handler from Rolf is doing that, automatically. In a perfect way if there is only one topic per email.

With greetings from Germany

Ulrich Hornstein

sent by MC218 (EPOC palmtop)

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Date: 6 Jun 2003 10:08:57 +0000

From: U Hornstein

Subject: Re: SmtpAuth updated

Very good, Marcus.

You are approaching on my hero list, too!

With greetings from Germany

Ulrich Hornstein

sent by MC218 (EPOC palmtop)

Reference is made to the mail in the EPOC DIGEST V1 # 271 (6) : Marcus von Cube wrote at 2003 09:49:21 +0000 (> ):

> Hi,

> I've just updated SmtpAuth. It now supports POP before

> SMTP as an authentication option.

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Date: 5 Jun 2003 14:31:46 +0000

From: Antony

Subject: RE: Emulator and W2K

Why not put the subst command in the emulator command script.

E.g.: -

OFF

SUBST Z: /d

REM Note The Subdirectory Name Is In Quotes!

SUBST Z: "C:\Subdirectory With Spaces In The Name\Epoc Installation Root\" Z:\Epoc32\Release\Wins\Deb\Epoc.Exe -mvga --

Regards,

Antony Booth

Thought for the day: ... er... No it's gone.

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Date: 6 Jun 2003 13:06:04 +0000

From: Andrew Gregory

Subject: S7/netbook vehicle power kit

This was published in the latest Australian electronics magazine, Silicon Chip (June 2003) <URL:http://www.siliconchip.com.au/>. It describes a switch mode 12V DC-DC converter kit that takes 12V from a battery (requires no more than 3A peak) and converts it to between 13.8V and 24VDC at up to 2A, regulated of course.

While I haven't tried it myself, it sounds quite suitable for a Series 7 or netBook, provided you use an appropriate plug! Certainly the power characteristics are OK. Simply set it to between 15 and 15.5VDC.

Prices here in Oz are at the AUD$50.00 mark, compared to the AUD$70.00 I paid a couple of months ago for a POD vehicle adapter :-(

Availability is from Altronics <URL:http://www.altronics.com.au/> (cat# K6320) and Jaycar <URL:http://www.jaycar.com.au/> (cat# KC-5358).

NOTE THAT IT IS A KIT. BYO soldering iron!

I have no connection with the magazine (other than as a reader!) or the kit itself, I just thought some people might find this of interest.