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Epoc Digest Tue, 10 Jun 2003 Volume 01 : Number 277

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In today's Epoc Digest 13 messages:

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- Meter (shareware program regained)

- RE: How to execute 'Extras'

- Re: Colour Icons

- Re: Program Folder

- netbook petition, sign here

- digest as spam # 276 (3)

- PsiLoc+

- Downloading sis files in Web

- BatGauge7, DIMM Upgrade, Program Folder, iPass,

- Dana update & Treo

- Re: \System\Programs

- Re: Openeing the Extras from a program

- Re: Web above Opera, and Re: Monopoly Colour Patch

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Date: 9 Jun 2003 12:57:12 +0000

From: Eric Lindsay

Subject: Meter (shareware program regained)

Epoc Digest 272

>Date: 4 Jun 2003 17:14:39 +0000

>From: Philip S. Adkins Potter >Subject: Meter

>I tried <http://www.xilonen.co.uk> but it no longer seems to exist! >I Googled too but the references are sparse, all refer to

<http://www.xilonen.co.uk> and the most useful is Eric Lindsay's. >Another shareware program lost?

Phil,

In the case of the interesting timing and coluntdown program

Meter, all is probably not lost. If anyone is interested in it, I have a bunch of alpha and beta copies, final version, .sis

versions for Psion and emulator, zips of some source, etc.

Some authors have been kind enough to release what they

still had on hand before leaving the Psion scene. The C++

source zip runs some 2.7MB, has all the sounds, all the

background MBMs and original drawings, etc. It may however

be somewhat disorganised (I looked and decided I didn't have

time to continue with it for a while). Someone would need to go through to see if the registration method is included in the stuff, or whether that would have to be taken out of the source and recompiled.

I'm a little reluctant to put actual programs on my web site,

since I have only limited space and download limits.

Eric Lind www.avalook.com

Box 640 Airlie Beach Qld Australia ph +61 7 4948 0435

http://www.ericlindsay.com NEW Airlie-SF-Psion-Epoc

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Date: 9 Jun 2003 14:06:31 +0000

From: Michael Degn

Subject: RE: How to execute 'Extras'

Answer to Ulrich Hornstein, Marcus von Cube and Chris S Handley

Marcus wrote:

> The Extra bar function is built into one of the special servers started by EPOC when the system is initialized. I was playing around with EPOC internals for EpocUtil, the lib that comes with SmtpAuth. There I found some info about internal programs which do not apear on the tasklist and cannot be started seperately. Even if you where able to start the program (should be something like EIKSRV.EXE), it will not open the Extras bar because the program actively waits for the tap. <

Chris Wrote:

> The "ROM program" you are looking for is not a stand-alone program, but built into System. So what you want to do is not possible. <

Dear all,

You're right, the Extras bar function is built into the system, but it can be reached from anywhere in the system - even in programs with a command. For the S7 (and presumably the netBook) the command is Ctrl+10074. For the 5mx (and presumably the MC218) the command is Ctrl+10072. However it seem difficult to implement the command into a macro. I've had no success so far.

Best regards,

Michael Degn

Esbjerg, Denmark

www.degn.esenet.dk

www.pdanmark.dk

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Date: 9 Jun 2003 14:50:36 +0000

From: martin

Subject: Re: Colour Icons

Reply to: Jon Welford

> Martin thanks for the colour icons. Is there one for RMRMonth, I use both Agenda+ and RMRMonth as the former looks better but the earlier version has more views.

Hi Jon,

Nope, just checked and there isn't yet. I'll add it to the to-do list (unless anyone else fancies doing it??)

Best regards,

Martin Guthrie

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www.pscience5.net

www.freepoc.org

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Date: 9 Jun 2003 16:19:57 +0000

From: Gordon Love

Subject: Re: Program Folder

On 8 Jun 2003 21:01:42 +0000, Keith Giles wrote: > ...

> Every Psion I have (5, 5mx, 5mxPro, Mako, MnetBook) has a System\Program > folder which is always empty. Just what is that folder for? Can I delete > them without any problems occurring?

It's a folder used to install some software into. If you never install relevant software, you'll never get anything in it.

But - how will you know in advance what software will want to go there?

And how painful is it to retain the folder?

(My own 5mx has eleven .exe files in there - including

JavaRun.exe, and eshell.exe)

Cheers,

Euan

xlucid

this.sourceforge.antispam.net

GawnSoft: http://www.gawnsoft.co.sr

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Date: 9 Jun 2003 16:50:43 +0000

From: Mark Deppe

Subject: netbook petition, sign here

Sign the great save the symbian netbook petition here :-) tell your friends and businesses et al etc. etc.

http://www.petitiononline.com/nbookpro/

Kind regards

Mak

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http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html

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Date: 9 Jun 2003 19:39:35 +0000

From: vlad a

Subject: digest as spam # 276 (3)

> Epoc Digest wrote:

> Re.: Spam - Thanks for your details abt. spam. You would be amazed how much > spam I get, from loans to viagra to sex to prices to second income to I don't > know what. However, on the Psion I delete 99% in the header stage and don't

> download it at all.

I fear that this passage is responsible for the Digest being defined as

spam. It reached me, but my OE-filter deleted it beacuse I defined the terms

of these very attractive offers as criteria in the Rules window. So you shouldn't mention V..gra, t.ts, p.nis, cred.its etc...

<g>

best,

vlad

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Date: 9 Jun 2003 19:43:56 +0000

From: Philip S. Adkins Potter

Subject: PsiLoc+

Hi all & David,

David, I haven't had your problems with PsiLoc+ but my 5mx is almost certainly different. PsiLoc+ does indeed do a *lot* and all in one system utility. My other 5mx has a RAM upgrade (from D & G) which PsiLoc+ appears not to like but the alternatives don't use anything like 8MB RAM!

But a long time ago (30 odd years) I learnt that it was impossible to build even 2 machines the same and things ain't changed. So when I buy a 7/nB I'll probably need a different set of utilities.

Ah well, these things are sent to try us.

Happy days,

Phil.

"To stay young requires unceasing cultivation

of the ability to unlearn old falsehoods."

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Date: 9 Jun 2003 22:27:19 +0000

From: Kevin Thorne

Subject: Downloading sis files in Web

Reply to Astrid:

I have no problem doing this in Web. Are you sure you are not double tapping the link i.e. choosing to Shift-Control-S "save file as" rather than Shift-Control-D "save link as"? Try just selecting the sis file hyperlink with a single tap then Shift-Control-D and see what happens.

Regards

Kevin Thorne

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Date: 9 Jun 2003 23:25:04 +0000

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: BatGauge7, DIMM Upgrade, Program Folder, iPass,

Answer to: David Lir

Re.: BatGauge7 - Thanks for appointing me official translator for BatGauge7 <BG>. I'll try to do something but it could take a week or so.

Re. DIMM Upgrade - I second your opinion, it is most definitely money very well spent !

Answer to: Keith Giles

Re. Program Folder - I've got \System\Programs and it contains 4 files, "remove.exe", "sfxexe.exe", "syn_inst.exe" and "syn_remv.exe". Don't ask me whtat these files are (for) ....

Answer to: Daniele Squarci

Re. iPass - It seems to me you would be well served with the little program "The Dialer". It will allow you to dial up to the internet from your Psion with different telephone numbers without each having to change the settings in the control panel. Have a look at "http://www.mcaleely.com/freeware/".

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 10 Jun 2003 03:10:21 +0000

From: Gary Y Reyes

Subject: Dana update & Treo

>Date: 30 May 2003 17:36:01 +0100

>From: Jim Watson-Gove >Subject: Dana update & Treo

>I've been considering a Treo 90 as a pocket companion to the Dana and = >

>I am shocked. The thumb-board on the Treo is much better than I had = >anticipated (no match for the Mako or 5mx, but quite usable).

>jim - port townsend

Jim,

I did the same and use a Treo 90 together with a Revo Plus. I use the Revo Plus sparingly because the batteries are malfunctioning already. I periodically synch the two but only for Agenda and Contacts.

Synching the other applications like Docs to Go (word, spreadsheet) is a pain because the Palm OS does not keep all files as neatly as Psion does. The backup files are all over my hardrive - in folders where the application is.

There is a lot of good software for the Treo 90 but those that I have used on the Revo are still superior to those I have tried for the Palm OS.

Gary

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Date: 10 Jun 2003 07:07:43 +0000

From: Marcus von Cube

Subject: Re: \System\Programs

Keith,

>Every Psion I have (5, 5mx, 5mxPro, Mako, MnetBook) has a System\Program folder which is always empty. Just what is that folder for? Can I delete them without any problems occurring?

EPOC doesn't have the concept of a PATH variable (unlike DOS and its successors, or Unix). So where to find programs without an explicit pathname? The solution is to put each kind of programm in a special folder, e. g. \System\libs for DLLs or \System\Apps\MyApp\ for application "MyApp". \System\Programs is for files of type *.exe, like java.exe.

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

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Date: 10 Jun 2003 07:21:43 +0000

From: Marcus von Cube

Subject: Re: Openeing the Extras from a program

Martin,

>>>>....and cannot be started seperately... it will not open the Extras bar because the program

actively waits for the tap.<<<<

>With all due respect gentlemen, that's not true. (We're talking Psions

>here - anything is possible!) ;¬)

I think, we both are right: you cannot start the program responsible for the Extras and expect it to

open the application list. But you can still send an event message to the window group belonging

to the eikon server. (See include file EIKSVDEF.H which defines the name. You still have to find

out, which keycode or pen event to send.)

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

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Date: 10 Jun 2003 08:26:51 +0000

From: Chris S Handley

Subject: Re: Web above Opera, and Re: Monopoly Colour Patch

Subject: Web above Opera, WHOLE DIGESTS, Wifi & ADSL

Itamar Engelsman wrote:

> And in answer to Chris Handley, Does Ctrl-Shit-l works in v. 3.62 as

> well ?

No idea. There is a "Transfers.." item in Opera5 under the "Special windows" sub-menu in the "Tools" menu.

> And what is Grand Rapid ?

A Java web browser (with SSL, frames & stuff) that works with the Psion's JVM. Search for discussions of it on PDA Street.

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Chris Handley

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Subject: Monopoly Colour Patch

martin wrote:

> does nothing in terms of changing the screen area it plays in (since

> that information is buried inside the program itself).

Is this Monopoly written in OPL or C++?

I guess C++, but if it was done in OPL, then there is a chance you could search/replace the 16-bit value 240 (&F000) & replace it by 480. If there were lots of matches, then you need to find the value 240 in close proximity to the value 640...