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Epoc Digest Sat, 06 Sep 2003 Volume 01 : Number 332

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In today's Epoc Digest 24 messages:

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- RE: gprs OR wifi, not both

- Re: Theole for Revo

- Re: Netbook screen calibration

- Palmtop Money

- Re: WiFi again

- Re: The colour of Money

- Revo Redux

- Re: Phoneman & T610

- OPX Sources

- Re: T610 and Faxing (OT)

- Re: Psion and T610 info exchange

- MX5 - Power up problem, Netbook operation, Revo Battery Solution, Phoneman &T610

- Re: T610 & GPRS

- Re: Netbook screen calibration

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 331 (29)

- Re: Revo Battery Solution

- Re: Additional PDA

- Re: Motorola Leaving Symbian

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 331 (29)

- PsiWin restores too much files

- RE: Theole for Revo EPOC DIGEST V1 # 331 (28)

- RE: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 331 (28)

- Re: Netbook screen calibration

- What if - Netbook Pro...

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 07:28:28 +0100

From: Michael Degn

Subject: RE: gprs OR wifi, not both

Answer to Jack

> On UK nB 105(450), I connect via GPRS allright... but the connection dialog does not allow to : Connect to Internet service "802_11Lucent" Only after UNinstalling MobileConnectivityUpdate 2.00 does this "wifi" connection dialog reappear. Any solution? <

Dear Jack,

There should be no need for the Mobile GPRS Update on the netBook. I don't need it on my S7 to make a GPRS connection and I guess the netBook doesn't need it either. Just remove it and you should be able to have both :-)

Best regards,

Michael Degn

Esbjerg, Denmark

www.degn.esenet.dk

www.pdanmark.dk

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 08:29:18 +0100

From: Martin Guthrie

Subject: Re: Theole for Revo

: Timothy H.D. Williams

> Things would be a lot better if I could find Reversi/Othello/Theole for the Revo. >

> The Purple edition is too large for the Revo screen.

Hi Timothy,

RMR Reverse works fine on a revo screen (http://www.rmrsoft.com/epoc/reverse.htm).

Best regards,

Martin

Best regards,

Martin Guthrie

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 08:40:06 +0100

From: Martin Guthrie

Subject: Re: Netbook screen calibration

Reply to: jgthomson

> Does anyone have any idea why, when I open my netBook up, the screen > invariably (9 times out of 10) needs to be calibrated. There is a

> definite shift in the relationship between the screen contents and the > drivers which define the pixel address and I usually cannot pick up an > item properly with the pen until I recalibrate. Often, I do not have to > move the netBook on the desk to replicate the problem - just close it and > reopen the case.

Hi Jim,

It's not the screen itself losing calibration but rather the point where the ribbon cable from the screen plugs into the motherboard connector

moves slightly. This is a common occurrence on many S7s/nBs but fortunately there's any easy fix. You just push down firmly on the "netBook" badge - or "Ser7ies" badge as appropriate - just above the keyboard (in between the power and stylus buttons) to wiggle the

connection and you should find that the calibration has automagically

fixed itself. One of these days I'll eventually get around to taking

the cover off and re-seating the cable. But since the above works every time and is simple to do, that day has not yet come...

Best regards,

Martin Guthrie

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www.freepoc.org

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 08:51:00 +0100

From: Graypi

Subject: Palmtop Money

<answer to: The colour of Money (Kevin Thorne)

> Yes, very true. For me, Palmtop Money is my favourite and most > useful app on my S7 but I always think it's a shame it was never > further developed to incorporate colour as it does look a bit

> boring in monochrome and not available in ER6 form. Presumably > there is no technical difficulty in doing this but I assume a

> third party would not be allowed to "colourise" it without

> permission from Palmtop (or Tom Tom as they are now known).

There are colour patches for Money at Martin Guthries pscience5.net!

<answer to: Theole for revo:

Try RMRreverse 1.10, this should do the trick ;-)

Ciao

Thomas

Psionwelt.net

Mobile2Day.net

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 08:58:44 +0100

From: Martin Guthrie

Subject: Re: WiFi again

Reply to: ian chapple

Hi Ian,

> 1. What Windows XP FTP server programs do you use, to enable file sharing > with a netbook? I have tried Warrior FTP, but haven't managed to get my

> netbook to connect successfully.

I use CesarFTP (http://www.aclogic.com/ - Freeware) without any

problems. There are (literally) hundreds of freeware offerings, most of which should work just fine...

> 2. Has anybody else had problems with Windows XP sporadically losing the > connection to the network, and is there a solution? What seems to happen

> is the Windows periodically "discovers" that there are "one or more

> networks" available (it's always just one, our home network), but it

> requires confirmation before the connection is re-established. This

> problem occurred originally using a Sitecom USB WiFi adapter, but now

> happens with a Netgear adapter.

Yes, XP is seemingly a little random in the way it acquires/loses

networks! ;¬) Somewhere in the settings I think there's an option to

have windows automatically connect/reconnect to any available network - which effectively fixes this issue I think (usual caveats about having firewalls, up-to-date virus scanners, etc. running apply).

> I know that this not entirely Psion related, so feel free to reply

> by PM, unless you feel the answer might be of general interest.

Tricky to do without your email address...

Best regards,

Martin Guthrie

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 09:04:04 +0100

From: Martin Guthrie

Subject: Re: The colour of Money

Reply to: Kevin Thorne

Hi Kevin,

> Yes, very true. For me, Palmtop Money is my favourite and most useful > app on my S7 but I always think it's a shame it was never further

> developed to incorporate colour as it does look a bit boring in

> monochrome and not available in ER6 form. Presumably there is no

> technical difficulty in doing this but I assume a third party would not > be allowed to "colourise" it without permission from Palmtop (or Tom Tom > as they are now known).

Permission or no, there are patches for Money (and the majority of other EPOC apps.) to enable you to colourise your favourite application(s) on

my website... www.pscience5.net

Best regards,

Martin Guthrie

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 11:18:45 +0100

From: Timothy H.D. Williams

Subject: Revo Redux

On Thursday, September 4, 2003, at 03:13 AM, Rolf wrote:

> What it boils down to is that the electrochemical reactions that > power the device, in our case a Psion, don't take place at every point > inside the battery.

Thanks for this useful info, Rolf.

Can anyone explain why, when recharging my 24 mb Revo, the fast charge red light came ON as the battery reached 100% capacity? The batteries were installed by SRS in Germany.

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I long ago came to the conclusion that all life is 6 to 5 against.

Damon Runyon

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 11:26:14 +0100

From: Kevin Collins

Subject: Re: Phoneman & T610

Hi folks...

To John Goss (> ):

> Thinking of getting myself a T610 soon (my aging and > battered S35 is now useless for making calls, and

> crashes daily!), and was wondering if anyone's managed > to get it to work with Phoneman?

> It's nice to easily archive all my old text messages, > and write really long messages on a real keyboard

> sometimes, so it'd be a shame if that doesn't work.

> Any experiences?

Yes, John, if in Phoneman's Preferences you set Phone to Ericsson R520 (BETA), the program recognises the T610 and I had no difficulty in sending and receiving SMS messages, nor in deleting messages from the phone. I did have some difficulty in transferring Phonebook entries, but the main features

worked fine.

Regards,

Kevin [Cork, Ireland]

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 11:49:56 +0100

From: Victor E.Kviat

Subject: OPX Sources

Martin Maxwell wrote:

ED> We would be very interested in any way of either collaborating ED> with the authors of those OPXs, or obtain the source codes, to ED> make it possible to port them over to OPL for Series 80 and Series ED> 60, e.g. the nMPD, nDirNav, nListBox, CSocket, CDescriptor, MD5, ED> MBMView, GPrinter, Macro5, JpegMbm, Photo5, nDiskTools etc.

Source codes of CSocket, CDescriptor and others from COPX are open. These can be found at the home page of their author Keith Walker:

http://www.starship.freeserve.co.uk

Keith still supports his OPXs and is accessible by e-mail.

Best regards,

Victor Kviat/IT/NAT/ICRC a.k.a. VKV

(Powered by TheBat! Mail Cliehttp://itnat.kbsunet.ru/~vkv/

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 12:38:39 +0100

From: Wong Koi Hin

Subject: Re: T610 and Faxing (OT)

Reply to: Kevin Collins

Hi Kevin,

KC>When I go to "Calls", and choose "Next Call", I don't get the options which p69 says, and which you confirm, I should. My options are "Call and Show ID" and "Call and Hide ID"

One possible explanation is that your SIM is not enabled for data/fax. You might want to confirm with your service provider. I am not certain whether being able to send faxes means you can receive fazes as well. Or it could be a buggy firmware as you said. A firmware update ought to do the trick.

I own the T610 and I can see and ebable the option.

warm regards,

Koi Hin

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 12:38:41 +0100

From: Wong Koi Hin

Subject: Re: Psion and T610 info exchange

Reply to Itamar Engelsman

Dear Itamar,

IE>Info exchange between Psion and phone - Your answer was quite clear. Could someone please send instructions to the digest what you need to exchange info between a Psion and a phone like the T610 and how to do it both ways ? Maybe the phone could play the companion task with the Psion ?

Sorry for my late post, I was caught up with other matters. Perhaps someone else has replied to this? In anycase I will give it a shot.

Note that I assume infrared is enabled on the phone in all cases and it is aligned with the Psion in such a way that a infrared connnection can be established.

T610 to Psion>

Contacts:

1. On your T610, go to [Phonebook]

2. Go to [Manage Contact]

3. Select [Send Contact]

4. choose Contact you wish to send

5. select [Via Infrared]

6. On your Psion Go to your Contacts App.

7. Select [Infrared receive]

Agenda - Calendar entries

1. On your T610, go to [Organizer]

2. Go to the Calendar entry you wish to send

3. Select [More]

4. Select [Send]

5. select [Via Infrared]

6. On your Psion Go to your Agenda App.

7. Select [Infrared receive]

Agenda - To-Do entries

1. On your T610, go to [Organizer]

2. Go to the Tasks entry you wish to send

3. Select [More]

4. Select [Send]

5. select [Via Infrared]

6. On your Psion Go to your Agenda App.

7. Select [Infrared receive]

Paion to T610>

Contacts:

I am unsuccessful in sending contacts from Psion to T610

Agenda - Calendar entries

1. On your T610, go to [Organizer]

2. On your Psion Go to your Agenda App.

3. Go to the Calendar entry you wish to send and highlight it

4. Select [Infrared Send]

Agenda - To-Do entries

1. On your T610, go to [Organizer]

2. On your Psion Go to your Agenda App.

3. Go to the To-Do entry you wish to send and highlight it

4. Select [Infrared Send]

I would like to point out I do not use this method to keep my information in synch between my devices. I am unwilling to assume the integrity of the information transferred between my Psion and T610. As I have a Win2K workstation at home, I synchronise my phone and Psion with their respective Outlook synchronisation software. I have never encountered problems in this respect. This is my preferred method. So in answer to your second question, the T610 can be a companion to my Psion, but only because I have use a Windows workstation as HQ.

warm regards,

Koi Hin

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 13:58:53 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: MX5 - Power up problem, Netbook operation, Revo Battery Solution, Phoneman &T610

Answer to: John Robertson-McIsaac

Re.: MX5 - Power up problem - Sorry to hear about your problem. You can either contact Psion themselves where you first have to get a repair number from their website before sending it up, or POS in London. Both Companies are reputable. The last we heard was that Psion sends repairs to France (although that was for a S7) and it might take some more time. If you will be in London in the near future, I think POS still do repairs while you wait if you made an appointment in advance. Success

Answer to: Philip Carlisle

Re. Netbook operation - It is very well possible that the vibration casuign the lid to open was the problem. As I always had the switch on when opening switched off, I could not have had this happening.

Answer to: Rolf Brunsting

Re. Revo Battery Solution - Thanks for the interesting reply. Now, from a _practical_ point of view only, even on a 7 hour flight one would not use the computer for 6 hours. You rest, watch a movie, get food, sleep, etc. so both machines will stay powered during a flight. However, as you said yourself you recharge the REVO 4-12 hours overnight. But what if I would take a night flight and have a day's work upon arrival ? The s7 just needs a change of battery, the REVO can't do that. Although not fully recharged with shorter charging, one can charge the S7 for half an hour or an hour (in car) and get several hours of work without problems, not so the REVO (according to many people). Listen, I don't say the REVO is a bad machine, I think it was in the end the best sold Psion, but I don't want to buy into a potential battery problem, certainly not when the machine itself is already out of production.

Answer to: John Goss

Re. Phoneman & T610 - Yes, it works. Interestingly enough I visited Switserland for work last week where I could not send out SMS's via Phoneman, but in the UK it works without problems.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 18:40:40 +0100

From: Wong Koi Hin

Subject: Re: T610 & GPRS

Reply to Itamar and Kevin Collins

IE>Re. T610 & GPRS - I suddenly remembered the great website of Mike (http://www.mikemcc.org.uk) with all the various settings. I took the settings for the T68 and entered these into my T610 and Psion. It worked and now I can use GPRS fully like before. Kevin, after following Mike's instructions I had no problems using GPRS with my S7 anymore, works a treat again. One warning, don't try and see the screen of the phone outside, you won't succeed ! But it is a kute little phone, small, easy to use and fun.

Hi Itamar, I would just like to say, as another T610 owner, I don't entirely agree with your comment about not bothering to see the screen outside. :) I am actually quite satisfied with the screen outdoors; while it definitely becomes washed-out, it is still usable. The screen becomes unviewable when you are in strong sunlight. When I say strong sunlight, I mean the kind where you have to squint to look around, where you really ought to be wearing a protective pair of sunglasses for your eyes. The T610, like its predeccsor, the T68i, connects my Psion wonderfully by GPRS or HSCSD to the Internet.

warm regards,

Koi Hin

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 19:46:45 +0100

From: Arne Christensen

Subject: Re: Netbook screen calibration

Jim Thomson writes:

<< Does anyone have any idea why, when I open my netBook up, the screen invariably (9 times out of 10) needs to be calibrated. >>

My NetBook had the same problem for some time until I did a backup last week. That cured the problem - completely unexpectedly!

Maybe the closing and reopening of all applications that's done as part of the backup has something to do with this. Hope this will work for you.

But getting back to your literal question: I have no idea what happened! I am completely mystified.

-- Arne Christensen

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 20:17:25 +0100

From: Victor Marchand

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 331 (29)

Re: Netbook screen calibration.

Jim, you´ve run into one of the few problems with the netbook/series 7.

The screen often starts to drift and needs to be calibrated.

If yours is still in warranty, get the screen fixed. That´s what I did

too. If it´s not, you may try to push on the Netbook sticker , which is

in the middle above the keyboard, when the screen is open.

Below it is the screen cable connector and it is often the cause of the

problem. If you hold your pen on the screen, with the sketch application

active, you can see the pointer on screen jump back to your pen. Don´t be

afraid, it may require some force and you´ll probably here a little crack.

Don´t overdo it!

I have to do this every now and then, even though I had my screen replaced.

I know of some people (read it on the net somewhere) who have opened up

the machine and installed another cable, but that´s more tricky I guess.

Victor

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 22:05:44 +0100

From: Keith Giles

Subject: Re: Revo Battery Solution

Rolf: Thanks for the explanation of how NiMH batteries work. As a result I'm changing how I handle my MnetBook battery and my AA GPS batteries.

Since I hardly ever take my MnetBook anywhere, I've always kept it in it's docking station with the AC always running. I removed it from the docking station, turned it on, and let it get down to the point where the battery icon turned red and it told me to recharge. I'll do that once a month.

Once a month I'll also use an option on my recharger which first discharges the batteries completely before beginning the charge cycle.

I had previously tried the freezer routine on my Mako, then finally sent it in for a new battery and PCB. It's worked fine until about a month ago, when I noticed the red led light started turning off a few minutes after starting, which I think will foul whatever it is that controls the battery indicator. I set the Mako aside for 2 weeks, punched the hard reset holes, and plugged in the charger. After about 15 minutes I noticed the right-hand portion of the bottom of the Mako was warm. I worried that the thermistor would get too hot too early. So I put a few ice cubes in a snack size ziplock plastic bag and set the Mako on top of the bag. I don't know if it was the ice bag or the complete battery depletion/hard reset routine, but the red led stayed on for about 2-1/2 hours. I let it charge another 6+ hours without the ice bag. It's working well.

I might be whistling Dixie or practicing voodoo, but I think I'll use the ice cube routine each time I recharge. :-)

Happy Cycling,

Keith

Sunnyvale, CA

http://ohsix827.home.comcast.net

Thought For The Day: Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted.

All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 23:09:43 +0100

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Additional PDA

Dear Itamar,

<< Yes, I did check the price of the P800 and it was over 200 pounds. I appreciate your answer but _for me_ the price was definitely a factor >>

Well ... have a look at the following PDA prices I've picked out of advertisements section in the October issue of the UK computer magazine Personal Computer World.

Dabs Direct (dabs.com)

- Palm Zire 71 : £204.99

- Hewlett Packard iPAQ 1910 : £199.99

- Sony Clié PEG-TG50 : £276.12

Simply Computers

- Palm Zire 71 : £207.=

- Palm Tungsten T : £260.=

- Hewlett Packard iPAQ 1910 : £199.99

- Hewlett Packard iPAQ 2210 : £369.=

- Sony Clié PEG-SJ33 : £163.=

Clove Technology

- Palm Tungsten T : £269.07

- Hewlett Packard iPAQ 1910 : £217,37

- Hewlett Packard iPAQ 2210 : £346,62

- Sony Clié PEG-SJ33 : £199.=

- Sony Clié PEG-TG50 : £292,57

A price of (just) over £200.= for the SonyEricsson P800 is therefore not a bad price for a device that packs a PDA, mobile phone, MP3 player and simple 640 by 480 pixel camera into one.

<< My though was an additional light and small PDA to be used together with the S7, not to integrate the various parts together. Maybe that thought is wrong, I understand >>

The idea isn't wrong in itself, of course. You're free to choose specific devices for specific functions when this suits you best. Still, combining multiple devices into one is something to think about. It may not make that much sense to add a PDA to your arsenal when you can store appointments and contacts on your SonyEricsson T610. And when the T610 proves to be too limiting for that you can have a look at the P800, or its successor, by the time your mobile phone contract comes up for renewal.

<< ... I have always rejected the idea of synchronising two machines and never did it, even not with Outlook at work or home. However, with the demise of the smaller EPOC machines I might be "forced to" >>

Nobody's forcing you to use synchronisation. When time comes to replace your Series 7 you can use the new device the same way you're using the Series 7 at this moment. It may be best to synchronise with Outlook in order to get appointments, contacts and to-dos from the Series 7 onto the new device. But that can be a once-only activity.

I understand, however, that you're using Zenobyte's Phone Manager on your Series 7. Meaning that you do perform a form of synchronisation between Series 7 and mobile phone. Numbers that are on the Series 7 are transferred to the mobile phone and vice versa. I've used Phone Manager as well but no longer need to do so. The P800 is now the device on which I store my contacts. As each number in the contacts database can be used for direct dialling, the contacts database is also my phonebook.

The way I got my contacts into the P800 was by beaming them over one by one using infrared. I transferred my appointments to the P800 the same way. You can use the same method to get appointments, contacts and to-dos from the Series 7 onto the T610 or additional PDA. Needless to say that this also works from the T610/PDA to your Series 7. You therefore don't necessarily have to synchronise with Outlook. It may be best to do so, however, because automatic synchronisation doesn't forget to beam over a contact or appointment.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 4 Sep 2003 23:09:54 +0100

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Motorola Leaving Symbian

Dear Martin,

<< .... Perhaps we will see more change of hands of Symbian shares from now on >>

Symbian has started to publish financial results. It doesn't need to do as it's a limited company. Publishing the results is a sure sign that Symbian is preparing itself to be floated on the stock exchange. It gives the financial analysts something to chew on.

<< I personally feel that - to remain a balanced consortium - Nokia should take the first possible opportunity to reduce their shareholding by bringing in someone else >>

Why should Symbian be a balanced consortium when it isn't balanced at the moment? When Siemens joined Symbian in April 2002 it took a 5% stake in the company. Samsung has also invested in Symbian - given the amount of money mentioned in a March 2003 article it also represents a 5% stake. Which is confirmed by checking Symbian's financial report for the first half of 2003. That's two 5% stakeholders while the news articles on the Motorola share sale I've read all mention that Nokia currently has a 19% stake in Symbian. Assuming that Psion, Nokia, Motorola, Matsushita and SonyEricsson have equal stakes at the moment it means each has 19%. Which doesn't add up because (5 x 19) + 5 + 5 = 105%.

Looking at it from a different angle; when you subtract Nokia's 32%, Psion's 31%, Samsung's 5% and Siemens' 5% after the Motorola sale, it leaves 27% for Matsushita and SonyEricsson. The only Symbian partners involved in the Motorola sale are Nokia and Psion. Now, Nokia started with 19%, meaning that we have 100 - 5 - 5 - 19 - 27 = 44% for the combined pre-sale share for Motorola and Psion. Of which 13% is a known entity, the slice of Motorola's share Nokia will buy. This leaves 44 - 13 = 31% for Psion plus the remainder of Motorola's share Psion will buy. As Psion's share is reported to increase to 31% it means that Motorola held slightly more than 13% as it owned 23.1% in the old Psion + Nokia + Ericsson + Motorola days of Symbian's founding.

In other words, the current shares in Symbian can be divided into:

- Psion : about 30.5%

- Nokia : 19%

- Motorola : about 13.5%

- Siemens : 5%

- Samsung : 5%

- Matsushita : about 13.5%

- SonyEricsson : about 13.5%

Which changes to:

- Psion : 31%

- Nokia : 32%

- Siemens : 5%

- Samsung : 5%

- Matsushita : about 13.5%

- SonyEricsson : about 13.5%

It's clear that Nokia's 32% stake will give it more influence within Symbian as the number of votes you have directly corresponds with your share in the company. Question is whether that's such a bad development. Nokia has always been a vocal supporter of Symbian's activities. It's known to be one of the main driving forces within Symbian. Nokia is also the one with the most Symbian OS based smartphones on the market. A 32% stake is a fair representation of Nokia's position.

Besides, Motorola's sale has to be approved by the partners that aren't involved in the sale. When (say) SonyEricsson objects the sale is off. That the sale has already been reported on by the news media indicates that Siemens, Samsung, Matsushita and SonyEricsson have already given their informal agreement. In other words, they don't have major problems with it. Some (minor) details may need to be negotiated but this won't stand in the way of the sale going through.

I therefore don't see any reason why Nokia should reduce the 32% stake by attracting a new partner that will take the place of Motorola. This situation will change anyway, once Symbian is floated on the stock exchange in 1 or 2 years time. New shares will be issued, attracting outside investors. And the current group of shareholders are then free to reduce their stake by selling (part of) their individual shareholdings.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 5 Sep 2003 10:27:17 +0100

From: Chris S Handley

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 331 (29)

> From: Philip Carlisle

> Subject: Netbook operation

> Just found a little freeware application - Klip- that creates

> a user(idiot)-friendly clipboard for up to 12 copies. It is

> at www.palmanac.co.uk.

Out of interest to compare it to my Clipboard History program (not yet available for download), I visited that site.

Sadly they seem to have used some really horrendous JavaScript that made it totally impossible for any of the links to work on the 3 browsers I tried (none of them being IE, which was no-doubt the only tested browser). I rather suspect none of the Psion browsers will work, which is stupid for a site targeted at Psions.

Anyone found a direct download link that actually works?

Regards,

Chris Handley

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> From: Rolf Brunsting

> Subject: Re: Revo Battery Solution

> > Quite simply, the dreaded Revo battery problem often

> > appears only if you charge it before it is nearly empty

> When that would be case I would have had the "dreaded Revo

> battery problem" a long time ago and would have experienced

> it time and time again. I therefore think that it hasn't much

> to do with the point at which you recharge the Revo's

As suggested by another poster, it may instead be that brief periods of charging confuse the Revo's charging circuitry.

> What I do is to put the Revo on the charger before I go to

> bed and remove it from the charger the next morning. Which

> means that the batteries are charged for 4 - 12 hours,

> depending how long/short my night is. A period that's

> actually longer than strictly required to get the batteries

> fully charged.

Your recharge habits appear to confirm the previous mentioned suggestion.

What is utterly appaling is that the Revo charge circuits were not designed to handle the user charging the Revo as & when he feels like it (which I do happily with my Nokia 7110 & Netbook).

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Thanks for that. That sounds a very reasonable explanation. I make sure I discharge the batteries occasionally (which is what tends to happen anyway, since the Netbook *is* a portable device).

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> > From my experience I would have to say the OPPOSITE to

> > you! My (heavily used) Revo has a maximum capacity of 5

> > hours according to ChasDis. Whereas, if I removed my modem

> you'll get 12 hours. When you play an arcade style game with

> full-screen graphics and sound effects you won't get that

> far. But when you use the Revo in a typical businessman style

> - writing a report, checking your diary, entering the data of

> a few receipts in your expense manager, doing some sums using

> Sheet - you're going to get about 8 - 10 hours. Which is

I'm afraid you misconstrued "heavily used"; I meant "used frequently over a few years". I do NOT play games, but rather use the Revo for mainly Agenda, Jotter, Word & EpocSync. And not even for many minutes each day.

I have just bought a new Revo Plus, and the batter life is 6 to 6.5 hours according to ChaDis. Unless the occasional alarm sounds are dramatically draining the battery, this seriously conflicts your 8-10 hours estimate.

Are you using a program to measure battery life? If not, it is extremely difficult to estimate how long the Revo has been used.

When I first got my Series7, I spent a long time measuring battery capacity, and I came to the following conclusions: An (unexpanded) Series7 or Netbook lasts 7 hours using the lowest screen brightness, dropping to 4 hours on the highest screen brightness. I found a comfortable screen brightness gave 6 hours.

Having added a 1Gb Microdrive, 32Mb RAM expansion, Netbook CPU module, and LAN/56K modem, the battery life has only dropped by 1 hour (down to 5 hours total).

So at best the Revo would seem to equal the Series7/Netbook in the battery stakes, at least for anyone with vaguley similar usage patterns.

Regards,

Chris Handley

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> From: jgthomson

> Subject: Netbook screen calibration

> Does anyone have any idea why, when I open my netBook up, the

> screen invariably (9 times out of 10) needs to be calibrated.

The most likely cause is that the screen's ribbon cable is coming loose from the motherboard's connector. The calibration uses a resistance measure; even tiny changes in the connector/ribbon contacts will affect the resistance (and thus calibration).

> Often, I do not have to move the netBook on the desk to replicate

> the problem - just close it and reopen the case.

This is exactly what you would expect to happen if the cable was coming loose; any change in tension in the ribbon cable will unsettle contact with the connector, thus changing resistance.

Eventually it is likely the cable will come even more loose, causing the screen display to glitch, and (a long time in the future) eventually fail completely.

There is a short-term fix that involves pressing on part of the Netbook's casing, but I personally do not recommend it because it might cause more damage in the long term.

Longer term solutions involve someone re-seating the connector. Either you can get Psion to fix it, or you can dismantle your Netbook to try to do so yourself. However, Psion fixing it is MUCH preferable, because they are able to (and may even decide to) provide a special fix which holds the cable securely, so that it does not strain the connector.

Only recent Netbooks come with this special fix built-in. I was lucky to manage to get Psion to provide this fix when they repair my Psion7. Prior to that, the average time before problems arose was 6-12 months, now I have been going for 2 years so far without problems.... (And at least SOME other people's experiences seem to fit these figures).

Regards,

Chris Handley

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> From: Itamar Engelsman

> Subject: Motorola Leaving Symbian,

> Re.: Motorola Leaving Symbian - Why is it so important for

> Symbian to have a balanced consortium ? Maybe if Nokia have

> the lion part of the shares it will guarantee Symbian that

> Nokia - one of the larger players in the mobile phone

> industry - will continue to use them. Does that not guarantee

> their continued exsistence and success ?

The whole idea of Symbian was to avoid any one company having control & thus a monopoly; we don't want to end up with another Microsoft! Nokia's influence on Symbian is already too high.

If Symbian became a division of Nokia (so to speak), there would be no great reason to chose SymbianOS over 'proprietry' OSes like Palm or PocketPC. (yes, symbian is technically the best choice, but that often plays little role in a phone manufacturer choosing the OS, sadly; Java is the worst choice, yet some phone companies are seriously considering it.)

Regards,

Chris Handley

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Date: 5 Sep 2003 18:27:52 +0100

From: Oscar Fuentes

Subject: PsiWin restores too much files

Hi.

Today I was forced to perform a hard reset on my S5mx because the machine suddenly stop responding (no screen, no keys).

Then I used PsiWin for restoring. It restored almost each and every file that existed on the machine at some time on the past! That is, the restore includes files that were deleted from the machine years ago.

The date/time on the PC and the Psion were ok (I set it on the Psion before restoring).

How can I restore just the files that existed on the machine the last time I did a backup? I'm using PsiWin 2.3 on Win2K pro sp3.

Regards,

Oscar

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Date: 5 Sep 2003 23:27:43 +0100

From: David Steer \(Plus\)

Subject: RE: Theole for Revo EPOC DIGEST V1 # 331 (28)

Timothy,

Purple Software never released a version of Theole for the Revo. Though the game has been updated to run in colour on the Series 7/Netbook, I don't know if this version will run on the Revo, also, there does not seem a demo you can run. What I suggest is trying out RMRReverse (http://www.rmrsoft.com/epoc/reverse.htm) which does support the Revo.

Regards

David Steer

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Date: 5 Sep 2003 23:27:44 +0100

From: David Steer \(Plus\)

Subject: RE: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 331 (28)

Jim,

I know the problem! When it gets bad there is also a contrast problem. This is the known problem with the screen cable, solutions vary from pressing above the Logo or opening the device, disconnecting the screen cable and reconnecting it. I fixed one machine by opening it up and slightly loosing the 'plate' sitting above the screen cable.

The calibration only works when first applied as when you close the machine and open again, the calibration will move randomly. Also, sometimes the calibration will move back to normal while using the machine, if this follows you resetting the calibration, this will cause the screen calibration to appear to drift.

Regards

David

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Date: 5 Sep 2003 23:31:15 +0100

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: Netbook screen calibration

wrote:-

<< Does anyone have any idea why, when I open my netBook up, the screen invariably (9 times out of 10) needs to be calibrated. >>

I had this problem on my Psion 7 after much use.

I was advised to press the SER7IES (or your netBook) badge at the top of the k'brd.

I now do this when ever I tap the screen and get this problem.

I guess that it's a bad pl/skt connection below the k'brd.

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion 7 & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 5 Sep 2003 23:56:17 +0100

From: David Steer \(Plus\)

Subject: What if - Netbook Pro...

Dear All,

I am thinking allowed here. What if someone was to order 500 NetBook Pros from Psion Teklogix and asked that those devices were delivered running Symbian OS version 5? PT are after the corporate market, which means that they deal in large numbers. If PT were to say yes to this order, then there would be 500 machines to sell to a ready made market - they would fly out the door quicker then ...

I have a contact in PT (I have bought Netpads from them for my company) if someone would be able (and willing) to finance a venture like this, then I can ask. The petition may not work but buying power always talks loudly!