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Epoc Digest Fri, 07 Nov 2003 Volume 01 : Number 378

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In today's Epoc Digest 14 messages:

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- Epoc News

- Re: Psiwin for Windows XP/Psiwin Backup problem

- Re: New Psion Magazine

- Palmtop magazine

- Re- Itamar best fit pda

- PsiWin for Windoze Xp

- Paging Laurence (and Rolf)

- Re: Irda and switch off timer

- Re: S3MX update

- Sticky silk screen buttons

- Psiwin for Windows XP, full optimising of my D drive, Psiwin Backup problem,

- Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 377 (15)

- Re: Psiwin for Windows XP

- MSN Messenger

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Date: 5 Nov 2003 15:02:23 +0100

From: Michael Degn

Subject: Epoc News

Message to: Andrew , James John , Anders Nystedt , Thomas Andersson

Since Digest # 373 your email address is bounced and we had no other option but to unsubscribe you for 1 week. We hope you will read this from another source and get your address fixed.

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Message to: Rich

Your mailbox is full so you were unsubscribed for 1 week.

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Message to: Bertram Brooks

For a loner period your email address returns "invalid recipient" and we had no other option but to delete you from the list of subscribers. We hope you will read this from another source and resubscribe with a different address.

Best regards,

Michael Degn

The Epoc Digest Team

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Date: 5 Nov 2003 17:07:42 +0100

From: Keith Giles

Subject: Re: Psiwin for Windows XP/Psiwin Backup problem

For Nicholas Block: You don't need to buy a PsiWin 2.3.3 CD. Go to Mike McConnell's site http://www.mikemcc.org.uk/ click on General Info button, then PsiWin button, scroll to bottom of page and click on PsiWin 2.3.3 button. You'll probably have to register to get it, but it's free.

For James Masters' backup problem: Have you tried a soft reset? Are you using PsiWin 2.3.3? (see above if not)

Happy Cycling,

Keith

Sunnyvale, CA

http://ohsix827.home.comcast.net

Thought For The Day: Good judgment comes from experience - usually experience which was the result of poor judgment.

All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.

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Date: 5 Nov 2003 18:59:05 +0100

From: Mike Dyer

Subject: Re: New Psion Magazine

Reply to Itamar Engelsman:

Yeah I know the Digest has no connection with the magazine, it just seemed the ideal place to ask a question to our community.

Reply to Will Green:

Good to hear from you!, the digest is still arriving to my yahoo account okay, don't know what their secret is!. I actually emailled you fiirc. I'm not out to fall out with anyone so I'm glad everything is okay, and look forward to receiving the magazine from you.

Regards,

Mike Dyer.

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Date: 5 Nov 2003 22:13:50 +0100

From: Radek Brunner

Subject: Palmtop magazine

Is there somebody, who can send me old issues of Palmtop user magazine?

Thanks

Radek

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Date: 6 Nov 2003 01:45:05 +0100

From: Scott Lloyd

Subject: Re- Itamar best fit pda

In response to Itamar on best pda fit for you. I just wanted to add that I have a Sony Clie NZ-90, and it is a wonderful machine for what is does. What does it do best? It takes beautiful pictures, movies, voice recorder, bluetooth, wi-fi,

photo album, flash player, etc and yes it can be used as a working pda, I call this one my vacation pda...music..pictures

stored information. I also use it allot at work. I am a mechanical designer and I work mainly on space programs. We

get parts from all over the place with no drawings, so off I go with my sketch pad, measuring tools, and my NZ-90 for pictures. But my Netbook never strays far. So if a combo of tools does the job, so be it!

How's the weather in beautiful Europe?

God Bless

Scott

Question: Im too lazy to look this up, what is the maximun compact flash size you can use in your Netb

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Date: 6 Nov 2003 02:55:57 +0100

From: Paul Bishop

Subject: PsiWin for Windoze Xp

Nicholas

I'm using EpochConnect which came with my [unsed] MAKO.

There must be plenty of those discs around because they were selling off the machines cheaply.

Paul Bishop

in firey California

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Date: 6 Nov 2003 07:33:00 +0100

From: Steve Litchfield

Subject: Paging Laurence (and Rolf)

Sorry, to put in another personal note, but someone called (I think) Laurence from this digest just emailed me and his email got zapped by MailWasher before I could read it - Laurence, can you re-send please?

And paging Rolf - has he disappeared from the planet? I haven't seen any postings by him for a month....

Steve Litchfield

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Date: 6 Nov 2003 07:57:07 +0100

From: Marcus von Cube

Subject: Re: Irda and switch off timer

I wrote:

>Be sure to have set the idle timeout for switch off in control panel to a value below 30 seconds (EPOC bug!)

This isn't quite what I meant, just read "minutes" instead of "seconds"...

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

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Date: 6 Nov 2003 08:41:02 +0100

From: Martin Maxwell

Subject: Re: S3MX update

Answer to: Arent Kits van Heijningen

Re: S3MX update

Gheeez!

>>>Battery consumption : All Symbian32 phones are quite heavy on batteries if you are going to use the organiser functions intensively<<<

In comparison to what? They are the most battery prudent smartphones in the market. Also, are you sure it is the organiser functions and not heavy use of backlight?

>>>The s3mx being a monochrome Symbian16 device is far more frugal in this respect <<<

1. There is nothing called "Symbian16". SIBO is an all Psion OS.

2. Could you explain in detail why you think a 16-bit OS is more frugal on battery power than a 32-bit OS; with memory, screen type, peripherals etc ceteris paribus.

>>>There is only one version of Symbian16<<<

No there are zero versions of "Symbian16", because it does not exist. There are, however, several slightly different versions of SIBO, e.g. for 3, 3mx, Siena and Workabout.

>>>there are at least 3 different releases (ER 5.1 , ER 6 and ER 7 , not to count embedded versions )<<<

So you still haven't understood the difference between 'embedded OS' and 'open OS'.

>>> Symbian32 is a high-profile target (can I say sitting duck ?) for litigation by MicroSoft about intellectual property issues while Symbian16 is almost forgotten and unlike Symbian32 unlikely to affect MS's bottom line <<<

Please explain in which areas Symbian are using Microsoft's intellectual property.

>>>If MicroSoft is attacking Symbian32 on IP issues , this means the end of the road for all non-embedded development for this platform<<<

With your incredible logic, this means that Microsoft is already dead, because Sendo is attacking them on IP issues.

Again, please explain in which areas Symbian are using Microsoft's intellectual property. Also please explain why this would affect non-embedded development only. You also need to explain why this would be the end of the road, or even any sort of threat, for Symbian; in particular in view of the fact that Symbian OS does not exist, and has never existed, in any non-embedded version at all (!!!).

Moreover, if you think Symbian has taken one single line of code or one single piece of technology from Microsoft, please explain exactly which one. There is no IP legal process going on at the moment between Microsoft and Symbian, hence I'm sure Microsoft needs your help, because they would gladly throw a spanner and sue Symbian even with half a reason.

kind regards

Martin Maxwell

Kuala Lumpur

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Date: 6 Nov 2003 11:40:50 +0100

From: Martin Guthrie

Subject: Sticky silk screen buttons

Reply to: Simon Dare

> Is it possible to include something to make the 4 silk screen > buttons on the left of the screen reinstate as well? This is the > only thing that bugs me when I use alarm plus (which was

> regularly until I recently tried a full optimising of my D drive > which Ateliers software - it took 4 hours but transformed my

> machine speed wise!)

Hi Simon,

I'm not 100% sure (i.e. I haven't checked this) but I imagine that the 4 silk screen buttons being remembered works in the same way as the position on apps. on the Extras bar. I.e. if you set their position by just tapping on the side bar of the 'User applications' or 'Extras' bar to bring up the 'Application settings' then the settings aren't remembered after a soft reset. If however you do it by going through the Control Panel and then selecting 'Applications' then they will be...

Could be wrong of course - just a best guess... ;¬)

Best regards,

Martin Guthrie

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www.pscience5.net

www.freepoc.org

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Date: 6 Nov 2003 13:39:57 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Psiwin for Windows XP, full optimising of my D drive, Psiwin Backup problem,

Answer to: Nicholas Bloch

Re.: Psiwin for Windows XP - If you start Psiwin on the PC and check under Help it will show "About". Doubl click and it will give you a screen with the exact version you use (mine says Psiwin 2.3.3 Build 149). As to buying a copy from one of the subscribers, I am not sure about the legallity of such a purchase

Answer to: Simon Dare

Re. full optimising of my D drive - Just out of interest, would it not be a lot faster to copy your D-drive (a CF card) to a PC, reformat the CF card and copy the files back again ?

Anser to: James Masters

Re. Psiwin Backup problem - Could it be that you have the same disk or folder name on the Psion and the PC ? That will surely create a problem like you have now.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 6 Nov 2003 22:20:45 +0100

From: Emily Rutili Lemer

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 377 (15)

Hello I hope I am doing this right. I am a new subscriber. I have had psion's for approx 10 years(series 3 and now a 5)and LOVE IT. I do not know what EPOC is or stands for. Please inform me.

Thank You Emily

New York City

Does anyone know Johathan Glaser formerly of New World(they sold me my last Psion)?

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Date: 7 Nov 2003 09:50:33 +0100

From: David Steer $Plus$

Subject: Re: Psiwin for Windows XP

To Nicholas Bloch Subject: Psiwin for Windows XP

PsiWin is free and used to be downloadable from the downloads section of the Psion site. If it is not there you might want to try thr Psion Tecklogix site.

If you get no luck there, I might have the zip file (all 23MB) on my PC somewhere. E-mail me if you need a copy and I will send it to you, thoug if you don't have broadband you are looking as a lengthly download time.

Regards

David

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Date: 7 Nov 2003 11:43:36 +0100

From: Kim Bang-Sørensen

Subject: MSN Messenger

Reply to Itamar Engelsman

Do not be that pessimistic. And no, I did not get any guarantee of upgrades or services when I bought and downloaded the MSN messenger for Epoc in June this year. However, I have received free upgrades to quite a few of my other Epoc software and expect the same to happen with MS Messenger for Epoc or a refund for the $ 15 I paid less than six months ago. Furthermore, the programme is still advertised on Ruksun´s website and it even seems that one can still buy and download it on Handango even though it doesn't work which I find deeply unfair.

Regards

Kim Bang

>Re. MSN Messenger for Epoc - Well, that is part and parcel of the problem we face with EPOC v.5. The authors will not update >their software anymore and sooner or later various programs that connect to the outside world will stop functioning (web,

>emailing, MSN messenger, etc.). I don't think you will get an upgrade anymore. Did they promiss any upgrades or service when >you bought the program or not ?