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Epoc Digest Tue, 27 Jan 2004 Volume 01 : Number 433

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In today's Epoc Digest 22 messages:

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- Re: New Psion Fan

- CronTab

- Re : Internet in Houston (4Thomas )

- RE: Netbook with Scandinavian keys/characters

- ACT!, ebooks, email in Internet Cafes, MP3 alternative, URLin Opera, handwriting recognition, nConvert

- spam? Pulster?! # 432 (4)

- Email Addresses

- base href, week number

- Power/Backlight

- Apple iPod battery problem, Digest policy,

- PhoneMan Pro & Revo/Mako

- Re: commercialization of digest

- Re: Backing up a 5mx to a Revo

- Moshe's English Dictionaries

- Internet connection with different phones/modem

- Epoc Digest V1 # 430 (1)

- Re: Random numbers

- Anti-static case for Revo or 5 mx

- LittleSense

- Fw: EC standard plugs

- Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 432 (8)

- Communication problem saga continues

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Date: 25 Jan 2004 22:07:35 +0000

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: New Psion Fan

Dear Vlad,

<< The destiny of the Psion is SO damn' silly... If I was a millionaire I would buy the production line and wouldn't care if it made a profit or not >>

When you're thinking of reviving the production of the Series 5mx or the Revo you're going to be disappointed. They weren't manufactured by Psion itself but by third-parties. The Series 5mx, for example, was manufacturer by the Singapore company of Flextronics. You therefore can't buy the production line as Flextronics will be using it for other products. Still, you could buy the rights to the Series 5mx from Psion Plc. and have it produced by Flextronics again.

<< He's travelling to South Africa shortly, I'd like to enable him to read his email there either with a Nokia series 6- or 7- ... or I'll lend him my GoldCard >>

I can't supply you with modem settings for these Nokias are there are simply too many different models under the 6xxx/7xxx umbrella. Give me the exact model number and I can help you further.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 25 Jan 2004 22:30:19 +0000

From: Andy Hayes

Subject: CronTab

Hi All

Whilst I appreciate the help on CronTab, with the suggestion of silent alarms, I find it hard to believe that someone hasn't written something like CronTab that works. Am I alone on this list in wanting to run applications such as backups when I know that the Psion will not be in use and to save me having to remember to do it manually, i.e. in the middle of the night? Is it really monstrously difficult to awaken a slumbering Psion and have it do something, and then go back into its sleep?

Andy Hayes

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 01:51:55 +0000

From: Keith Giles

Subject: Re : Internet in Houston (4Thomas )

I don't pretend to understand everything Arent Kits van Heijningen wrote about internet access and spam in the US. Nor do I have any knowledge of internet access in the Houston, TX, area. but I *can* talk about *my* experience.

> You have the option to get Internet via the cable TV operator or DSL

Not necessarily. I can only get cable access - I'm 0.3 mile too far to get DSL. Many people down the road in San Jose can get neither cable nor DSL - the city and the cable company still arguing about a franchise - and this is in Silicon Valley!

> To make a long story short , expect to get spam and lots of that to > boot

Not true - I get very little spam. My cable company is Comcast and you can go to your account on their web site and check a box which will filter much spam. I also use MailWasher as a filter.

> They have the right to divulge your email adress to their business

> partners

Federal privacy rules require them to allow you to opt out.

> Be prepared that you put yourself in a mess

I disagree - I think most of his post is highly overwrought, almost scare tactics.

Happy Cycling,

Keith

Sunnyvale, CA

http://ohsix827.home.comcast.net

Thought For The Day: If the knocking at the door is unusually loud and long, it isn't opportunity - it's relatives.

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 01:58:53 +0000

From: Michael Degn

Subject: RE: Netbook with Scandinavian keys/characters

Answer to Axel Moberg

> Can netBooks be found anywhere at all? And, the crucial question, can the version with Scandinavian keys be found anywhere? If not a dealer, does anyone know about a good place to find them second hand? <

Dear Axel,

You can find the netBook at Sitashop in Malaysia -

http://www.sitashop.com/psion/ and also at http://www.pulster.de/ but the latter is a German version.

The netBook was shipped in a Nordic model like the Series 5/mx with Scandinavian keys and was distributed by Psion Teklogix Denmark in Denmark and SIE in Sweden. It will be hard if not impossible to acquire one as the production of these stopped long time ago.

Please contact product manager Christian Hallberg at maybe he can help you in some way. Also you may visit their web-site: http://www.sie.com/sweden/mobdat/Index.htm

If you can't find any Nordic netBook you can easily use the UK netBook. My Series 7 is the UK one without the Scandinavian keys, but I've just made my own hotkeys in Macro5 to produce æ, ø and å. You can do the same or maybe use Remapper.

Best regards,

Michael Degn

Esbjerg, Denmark

www.mdegn.dk

www.pdanmark.dk

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 08:07:36 +0000

From: Eric Lindsay

Subject: ACT!, ebooks, email in Internet Cafes, MP3 alternative, URLin Opera, handwriting recognition, nConvert

>Epoc Digest Wed, 17 Dec 2003 Volume 01 : Number 402

>From: Manuel Campos

>Subject: ACT for Psion

>As far as I understand, you can export the ACT contacts to a file that can

in turn be converted by Psiwin into a Data File (and then use Datacontacts

to pass on to the contact database on the 5mx). The tricky question being

sent to all Psion / ACT users out there is anything that will allow the

synchronisation of the Calendar?

Advansys

Synchronisation software to Novell, Lotus, ACT, etc. Linkwise for

Epoc Contacts and Novell Directory Services (NDS). eSync for email

between Outlook, Novell GroupWise, Eudora Pro and ER3 Psion 5 (Classic).

eSync Warehouse for Outlook or Novell GroupWise multiple folders and

Epoc Data or Message Suite. Also versions for ACT! and Ericsson R380

phones. Lots of variations to handle products beyond PsiWin. Excellent

FAQ pages describing problems with syncing and many solutions.

www.advansyscorp.com

#403

>From: Jim Watson-Gove

>Subject: Reader, VReader5, etc.

>Now that I'm moving back to the Psion, it would be nice to have complete

compatibility. I checked the U of V website and they store in Palm and

Pocket PC formats. The PC format is a .lit rather than a .tcr and is not

readable

>with VReader5.

Tcr seems pretty dead these days. Simon Quinn's eBook reader is now free,

and is said to handle Tcr, so grab a copy of that. But you can afford the

space to have two readers. I'd look at Mobipocket, since they have the

same format on Psion, Palm, and Windows. I've been reading the free ebook

from the Baen site in .prc format for Palm (and the hardcover of the most

recent Honor Harrington included a CD with about 35 ebooks in multiple

formats, including the entire HH series). Wouldn't go near any Microsoft

format like .lit, because the next thing you know it is extended and

locked. I have a bit of a discussion of some ebook issues on

http://www.ericlindsay.com/epoc/siread5.htm The page includes links to

various readers, and the free registration code for Simon Quinn's reader

(obtained from his site).

#404

>From: Owen H. Morgan

>Subject: Re: nConvert & html conversion failures

>BTW, as no Portoguese GSM operator offers Internet access on a Pay As You

Go card, I found myself using Internet cafés when I was in Portugal. I

would open my incoming e-mails in the web reader, and save the whole page

to floppy. My Portoguese wasn't quite up to figuring out how to save only

the HTML file without the subfolders with buttons etc. When I ran out of

space on the floppy, I attempted to delete the unwanted subfolders, but

this also deleted the HTML file! Another example of M$ user friendliness!

When you have an HTML email open on an Internet Cafe machine, how about

using Ctrl A to select all the text,

Ctrl C to copy it to the clipboard. Then open Notepad, and Ctrl V paste

the email into it. Keep doing that with all your email. Notepad has the

great advantage that it saves as plain ASCII. Of course, if your email

includes giant attachments that doesn't help. My general observation

however is that if an email contains HTML, it is probably spam, or near

spam. I think life is a lot easier if as much of your computing data as

possible is in plain text, whether on a PC or on a Psion. I'm not sure why

Psion insisted in doing their own email format, but I think they got it wrong.

>From: Owen H. Morgan

>Subject: Re: Progress

>The reasons why an MP3 feature in a PDA has never been of interest to me are:

>I wouldn't be able to carry enough music to make it worthwhile, and would

have to decide before leaving home what music to take and take the time to

boot the laptop and transfer the music.

>PS. Anyone know if that promised Archos device with a built in 20 gig

drive and large colour LCD has appeared on the market yet and what the

price is? This might be the answer to my pocketable photo album application.

One of the gadgets I'm about to get is an Addonics 18 in 1 multifunction

recorder. This is a portable, removeable rechargeable battery and mains

powered DVD player/CD burner with a USB interface. It can be used as a DVD

to TV player, or as a CD or MP3 player, or as an external DVD/CD. Although

I'm getting it for use with a digital camera on long field trips, the

interesting part to me as a Psion owner is the camera card reader built

into it. It will accept any of about 8 different camera cards, including

all the Compact Flash ones. Further, it will burn them onto a CD for you,

without any computer. It doesn't care if the card comes from a camera or

not. I see it as instant backups of my Psion when I'm well away from a

computer. I also imagine it will play MP3 a lot better than a Psion :-)

I'm thinking more and more of looking at dedicated devices reducing my use

of a Windows computer. Hence the above gadget.

This approach probably isn't as cheap as a computer, but the frustration

and annoyance level looks a lot lower. Just a matter of seeing whether the

Psion can take on all the "computer" tasks for which I can't find a

dedicated device.

#205

>From: David Lir

>Subject: Web behavior/fixing relative links (4 Peter)

>> One major problem I've noticed in this regard is that most of

>> the web-pages I download (in both Web and Opera) show the

>> links in the following format, which makes it impossible to

>> subsequently download the link from the

>> Internet: file:///c:/mld/inquirer/news/front/

>I've noticed the same thing and would also like to see a workaround or a

solution.

Have you tried looking in System/Apps/Opera/CACHE/dcache.url ? I'm about

to move over to my mBook, so I'll be able to tell you whether that works

pretty soon.

>From: PRAR

>Subject: Re: Ive got a netpad

>I'm hoping it will be a more durable alternative to my 5mx but I doubt I

will ever get used to typing with a pen. Is there any handwriting

recognition software for Psions?

I list the six handwriting applications I've heard of at

http://www.ericlindsay.com/siedit5.htm Maybe you will be the first to

actually give me a report on how they work

>From: David Lir

>Subject: nConvert: a problem and solution :)

>When nConvert fails to convert an HTML file and gives a warning instead

that "This file cannot be converted" - simply open the file from within

Editor (or another text editor) and *add <HTML> to the very start of the

file*. Keep in mind that <html> in lower-case won't work - it has to be in

UPPER-case. Now nConvert should be able to convert the file just fine! So

far this has worked on 100% of the previously unconvertible HTML files that

I've tried :).

This is monumentally weird when you consider that current web standards say

that <HTML> should be <html>.

Further, to be valid, a file should start with a DTD, and that comes before

the <html> tag. Sounds like a bit of an nConvert update would be in order.

Well, maybe not. Does anyone know whether nConvert comes with a

recogniser? The recogniser may be the problem.

Eric Lindsay lists at ericlindsay com www.avalook.com

Box 640 Airlie Beach Qld Australia ph +61 7 4948 0435

http://www.ericlindsay.com NEW Airlie-SF-Psion-Epoc

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 09:10:03 +0000

From: vlad a

Subject: spam? Pulster?! # 432 (4)

> Rolf Brunsting wrote:

> Christopher's messages would, indeed, be unwelcome when we'd follow this as a > strict rule.

May I put in my 2c?

I hope you don't: I do hope that all those still working with/for Psions

will care to send in the occasional short note about software-developements, availability, etc. and also take part in the advice-exchanges here. It ain't like we're flooded here with "get a larger OS" "business"-mails ;-)

> I think it's more a question of whether such messages are intrusive...

... which has yet to happen in this forum afaik, so...

> Still, it's wise not to jump immediately on somebody who's posting such a

> promotional

... so please don't.

BTW: thanks Rolf for your peaceful post, and thanks again to all those who

are working to keep our machines afoot :-)

best,

vlad a

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 09:17:06 +0000

From: Antony

Subject: Email Addresses

To: Itamar Engelsman

I know email addresses are not in the archives but they used to be, which brought about the debate initially months ago. My comment was suggesting using the simple encryption method I suggested for emails. This would make too much work for a subscribing spammer to decrypt every address. It would also make email addresses available to all digest members, but only when they really wanted to email a member directly.

I personally have no problem with spammers getting my email address. I get hundreds of spam emails per day, which are filtered out before I open my mail application. Most of which are due to my email address being on web sites or being entered as subscription / verification forms.

I doubt I will aquire spam from this mailing list.

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 09:38:13 +0000

From: Eric Lindsay

Subject: base href, week number

>Epoc Digest Mon, 22 Dec 2003 Volume 01 : Number 406 >From: PRAR

>Subject: Relative links in webpages

>In order for a downloaded wedpage to work correctly the author need to include a <BASE HREF="original web page address"> tag in the header of the page. When a browser sees one of these it will then use it as the base for all relative URLS. If you are confident with an editor (and know the original address) you could edit the downloaded file and insert the necessary tag.

>I have tried contacting webmasters about this and the responses range from lack of interest to lack of understanding...

I've tried using the base href tag, and it seems to me to be too broken to be of any earthly use (this conclusion also reflects the opinions of some HTML book authors). If you don't have a realtime connection to the web, you can't even test your web pages locally once you use the base href tag.

Your css drops out. I'm sorry. Until browsers get their act together, I'm not touching base href. I do however include Eric Meyer's id signatures idea as <body id="ericlindsay-com"> so that at least you can find the URL by inspecting the page source.

>From: Itamar Engelsman

>Subject: Weeknumber in Agenda

>This is one of those years again that the week number in the EPOC agenda is 1 off. For example, in all other diaries the week starting with 25/1 is week 5, however in the EPOC diary it is week 4.

>Is there any way to change the EPOC diary to show the correct number ?

That is determined by the starting day of the week (which by default is Monday, which was in 2003). In Control Panel, International, change the starting day of the week to Thursday (in 2004), and Agenda will change the week notation.

However, your weekly view in Agenda will also start on Thursday. I think Psion got it right.

Eric Lindsay lists at ericlindsay com www.avalook.com

Box 640 Airlie Beach Qld Australia ph +61 7 4948 0435

http://www.ericlindsay.com NEW Airlie-SF-Psion-Epoc

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 09:40:53 +0000

From: Philip S. Adkins Potter

Subject: Power/Backlight

Hi Folks,

My 5mx has developed what seems to be a rather funny problem.

I use it mostly at home on the external power supply using a POD Docking Station, power supplied through the Honda connector. I use the backlight at home most of the time too. In Macro5 the backlight is ON under external power, ditto Merlin with the timeout set to maximum.

With the power LED (left-hand side of the keyboard) on the backlight occasionally switches off and on erratically. According to the System screen (Information, Battery, Shift-Ctrl-P) this happens, LED still on, apparently with external power and without. This problem is intermittent (translation: bl**dy frustrating).

I should emphasise that the power supply is plugged in, switched on and the LED lit throughout.

Does anyone know anything about this?

I'm running StickyKeys and Robin Hood's Task Manager as well as Merlin and Macro5, though I rather doubt anything other than Merlin and Macro5 address the backlight.

A confused

Phil.

"Adults are obsolete children."

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 13:58:24 +0000

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Apple iPod battery problem, Digest policy,

Answer to: Rolf Brunsting

Re.: Apple iPod battery problem - I think that when a group of users see the battery problem as a "problem" and open websites to describe the "problem" as well as pressure Apple to do something about it, there is a "problem". I was further not comparing this situation to the particular Revo "battery problem" which was not classified by some as a "problem" either, but in general a comparison with Psion as a Company that never confirmed any "problem" that existed with their machines (screen cable ....). Lastly, while a producer IMHO does not have to take into account any possible usage of their equipment, a heavy use or "high intensity use" should certainly be on their minds as well and be checked and tested.

Re. Digest policy - Well, the final sanction we have against anyone advertising unwantedly is not publishing their messages. Each operator has a quick glance over the text file to make sure all is in order before sending it out and could easily spot certain typical messages and delete them from the digest. Until now we did not have any hard advertising that made this necessary.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 15:40:10 +0000

From: John Morris

Subject: PhoneMan Pro & Revo/Mako

After recent tips from the digest I successfully loaded PhoneMan Pro onto my Mako, and have sync'd with my Nokia 6310i properly, including "multi-level" numbers & details.

In fact I am so impressed with PhoneMan Pro that I would like to relink the "Phone" silkscreen icon to it instead of to Psion's version "Phone". Is this possible, and how do I do it?

Thanks

John Morris

Cambs, UK

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 16:05:08 +0000

From: Joe Fell

Subject: Re: commercialization of digest

I agree w/Rolf (and others) about chris-like information - my 5mx is okay now, but I don't mind knowing that there are people out in the real world who can help me if needed -

Joe

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 17:52:51 +0000

From: Stephen.Murgan

Subject: Re: Backing up a 5mx to a Revo

Ray,

My advice is this:

Do not attempt to "restore" the backup of the 5mx to the Revo, but hard-reset the Revo, close all apps and copy only the files and applications you need. For instance, documents, spreadsheets, agenda files etc.

Replacing the system\data\contacts.cdb and system\apps\contacts\contacts.ini with the backup should migrate your contacts.

Finally, Install any Apps you need, and you should be back in business.

I did this when my 5mx broke and used my wife's Revo until I bought a new 5mx.

HTH

Stephen

----

Growing old is mandatory... Growing up is optional

==================================================================

My 5mx is showing signs of playing up - the screen is blanking out for no good reason - perhaps the dreaded screen cable problem is rearing it's head.

So I thought I'd better get a backup. My wife's got a Revo that she doesn't use, so I thought I'd use that. I can connect it to the PC no problem, and PSIWin recognises it as a different Psion, but it won't let me restore the 5mx contents onto the Revo.

Is it possible? If so how can I do it?

Ray Upton

Reading

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 17:53:00 +0000

From: Philip S. Adkins Potter

Subject: Moshe's English Dictionaries

Hi Moshe,

I just downloaded "Little Sense" from a site that said it was free. It linked to PsionPlace for download and the download is the shareware version I expected. I thought the 'free' statement was wrong.

The Memoware site has "WordNet 1.6" in TR format and "Little Sense" appears to be based on the same version of "WordNet", but edited down. Certainly I wouldn't use "Little Sense" in preference though it is less than 1 megabyte and "WordNet" is nearer 6 megabytes. But the TR file is freeware (though you need TomeRaider which is not free).

If Anthony Ellis, the author of "Little Sense", cannot be reached (and I assume he can't) perhaps a Macro5 hotkey, a HotKeys hotkey or a Merlin toolbar button would make the TR "WordNet" work the way you want (and there are many other possibly suitable ways to go).

I've got to be honest though, I've got *many* paper dictionaries including the enormous 2-volume "Shorter Oxford Dictionary on Historical Principles" and a few volumes by the brothers Fowler as well as one by Ronnie Barker! I can easily understand why a Psion-based dictionary would be desirable for many but I prefer my paper ones. If I need to carry one I carry the "Pocket Oxford" or very small "Collins Gem" but there is a similar sized Oxford too (among others).

Happy days,

Phil.

"I know you believe you understand what you thought

I said but I'm not sure you realise that what you heard

was not what I meant."

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 19:23:22 +0000

From: Gernot Gaier

Subject: Internet connection with different phones/modem

Dear fellow psionists,

As a so far passive participant of the EpocDigest I´ve got the hope someone can answer the following questions:

1. Is the Nokia 3510i “Psion-friendly” (connection via IR etc.) ?

2. Do you know the correct settings for the connection for the Revo of a friend with Samsung SGH-V200 ?

3. And also the settings for Nokia 3510i (if Psion-friendly) with a 5mx(pro) ?

4. Can I connect to the Internet via a “Palmlink V.90 Modem”, and what cables / adapter do I need ?

Thanks in advance, greetings from

Gernot Gaier, Ingolstadt („Audi-Town“), Germany

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 21:53:43 +0000

From: "Elizabeth C. Baker"

Subject: Epoc Digest V1 # 430 (1)

Reply to Stephen Stone re Revo Loose Keys and Battery Charge Fix:

I recently experienced the equivalent of an "extra hard" reset: My Revo

started literally screaming -- the sound went berserk, and I could only

stop the truly dreadful wailing noise with a soft reset; this did not cure

the problem -- nor did a hard re-set, for each time I turned on the

machine, it started screaming again. So I shut off the sound and let the

battery die, and left it alone on my desk for several months. I had planned

to send it to be serviced and repaired, but things got too busy over the

holidays, and I simply forgot about it. Meanwhile I was using my 5 mx.

Suddenly that died, and I decided to see if the Revo might work; I had

rather recently backed up everything to the Series 7, and poured my filed

into the Revo via Infrared. It is now working flawlessly (though I'm afraid

of it, and do not go to a concert, for instance, with the Revo, in fear it

might suddenly give voice during a pianissimo passage....). Furthermore,

the battery charge works better than it ever has.

Best regards,

Betsy Baker

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 22:32:03 +0000

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: Random numbers

Chris S Handley wrote:-

>>> Any idea how to make the selection truly random, or at

>>> least more so?

>> You could double RANDOMIZE; that is RANDOMIZE a second

>> time using the first's result as seed.

> I am afraid that this will not work! Counter-intuitive I

> know, but think about it:

> If RANDOMIZE is fed a fixed (non-random) number, then RND

> will always generate a fixed number, and if you feed this

> fixed number to RANDOMIZE, then you have not managed to

> make it any more random!

Chris I did not suggest using a fixed number as the seed, you did! Call RANDOMIZE with a time related seed, as all have used so far. Then use the result as the new seed when calling RANDOMIZE a second time.

This will make it _more_ random as initially required.

I can't vouch for it's efficiency in OPL, but it worked for me about 25 years ago, when I first used this trick.

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion netBook & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 23:32:45 +0000

From: "Elizabeth C. Baker"

Subject: Anti-static case for Revo or 5 mx

To: All

I think my 5mx died from an electric shock, delivered when, after I put on

a heavy sweater and a big padded nylon coat, it contacted my hip through a

thin nylon shoulder bag on one of these dry, cold days when everything

crackles and sparks like crazy. I'm now using my Revo (while 5 mx is left

battery-less for some days to allow it to recover, I hope) & trying not to

touch it without touching something else first to discharge the

mini-lightning bolt. Is there any anti-static material that is light weight

that might be available in a zipper case that will shield a Psion or Revo

or small digital camera ? In principle, I'd like to carry it in my inner

jacket pocket, against my chest,, so it won't freeze in 7- degree

Fahrenheit temperatures w. high winds.... but I'm afraid of the static

electricity & presently am keeping it in the shoulder bag between heavy

layers of cardboard. Not ideal.... & I suspect a similar zapping effect

could wipe out my digital camera... I've asked about anti-static cases in a

couple of camera stores (& of course places like Staples or CompUSA have no

clue) to no avail. Any & all suggestions much appreciated, Thanks in

advance,

Betsy Baker

(To the Digest: Apologies if I'm not sending this correctly....)

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Date: 27 Jan 2004 05:27:47 +0000

From: Moshe Nahir

Subject: LittleSense

To Jack:

Thanks for the information and help. I went to the interesting and useful Web site you suggested, but there does not seem to be a Collins Cobuild English-English dictionary there for Psion. Very sad. Thanks again.

To Itamar:

Thanks for the help and advice re my LittleSense. By the way, LittleSense is registered in such a way that there always must be a match between the Psion numbers and the code. Therefore, if for any reason you lose your registration, the company has to give you a new code or it will not work, and they seem to have gone the way of all flesh... I do have the code I received from them when I registered, but now that I somehow became unregistered, it is worthless. Anyway, thanks again.

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Date: 27 Jan 2004 09:30:50 +0000

From: Ian Chapple

Subject: Fw: EC standard plugs

Rolf,

>> There has been a proposal for an EC wide standard power plug and socket as part of the CEN standardisation of electronic equipment. The proposal didn't make it because it's much easier to supply electronic equipment

with a power cord with the new plug than it is to change all the power sockets in the home, the office, factories, etc. Conclusion was that it would be more costly to switch to an EC standard power plug and socket

that it would be to keep the various national standards. <<

The British plugs are better on the whole, as the live connections are hidden by a shield, which only opens when the longer earth pin is

inserted; trying to make European sockets childproof is a major pain. The big disadvantage of a British plug is that it hurts like hell if you tread on one with bare feet...

Cheers, Ian.

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Date: 27 Jan 2004 10:05:15 +0000

From: "GawnSoft"

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 432 (8)

On 26 Jan 2004, at 1:09, Rolf Brunsting wrote:

> ...

> Microsoft aims to keep its users satisfied by

> responding to their wishes.

> ...

I enjoyed your essay, Rolf, but I would amend the above statement you made to 'Microsoft aims to keep its users ... by' locking alternatives out of the market.

Cheers,

Euan

xlucid

this.sourceforge.antispam.net

GawnSoft: http://www.gawnsoft.co.sr

The SymbianOS/Epoc Wiki: http://html.dnsalias.net:1122

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Date: 27 Jan 2004 10:10:35 +0000

From: Neil Ogden

Subject: Communication problem saga continues

Having now installed my serial to USB adaptor, I get exactly the same problem that the revo switches on so is connected by there is no communication. I think there must be something that is blocking communication, but I haven't a clue as to what.

I guess the only thing left now is to see if Psion technical support at £1 a minute can help - although I'll probably spend £10 just explaining the problem!!