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Epoc Digest      Sat, 14 Feb 2004     Volume 01 : Number 447

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In today's Epoc Digest 16 messages:

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- Re: Opera refuses to run on netBook

- Multiple CronTabs

- Psion looks past Windows to Linux?

- Re: Recording Macros with Assistant

- mBook

- Re: current v's voltage

- Re : Recording macro (2 Itamar)

- Re Mbook (2 Itamar)

- Trojans

- Euro-sign on 5 classic

- Euro symbol # 446 (2)

- stylus mechanism # 446 (2)

- RE: Trojans on Epoc

- Re: Gold Card

- Re:  Merlin/Netpad

- psion shops


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Date: 13 Feb 2004 14:28:25 +0000

From: "Chris Holly"

Subject: Re: Opera refuses to run on netBook


Never mind. I RFM'd. All is well in the netBook world.


--

Chris Holly

830 S. Fess Ave.

Bloomington, IN  47401-4946


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Date: 13 Feb 2004 15:25:09 +0000

From: Ian Chapple

Subject: Multiple CronTabs


Owen,


>> The only way I could suggest is that installing the patch would make renamed copy of the original executable and that the patched version included a menu option to launch a small program that removed the patch by deleting the patched version and renaming the copy of the original. This would have the disadvantage that you would have two versions of the CronTab executable on disk, taking twice the space. I don't have CronTab installed at the moment, so I don't know how big it is.<<


There's actually a (potentially) more serious problem than just having two copies; unless the original, renamed version is saved somewhere away from the \system\apps\... folder, there's no guarantee which version of CronTab will run, as both have the same UID. You can see the same problem if you have a backup of c: on a removable CF card; if you re-insert this card, older versions of apps in d:\system\apps (or e:\system\apps) may run in preference to the newer version in c:\system\apps.


Cheers, Ian.


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Date: 13 Feb 2004 16:19:22 +0000

From: Antony

Subject: Psion looks past Windows to Linux?


To: Ajai Khattri


>Psion to do Linux portables now? Sounds very intriguing - been wanting to do something like this on my S7 for years:<


EPOC then WINCE/.NET, then Linux. Do they have a headless chicken running the show?



Antony Booth


Thought for the day:

Owens rule of posting: Why post something useful when you can paste some non-sensical statement after every message.


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Date: 13 Feb 2004 17:01:43 +0000

From: Marcus von Cube

Subject: Re: Recording Macros with Assistant


Itamar,


>Re. Recording Macros - I have got Assistant on my S7 and looked at the option but do not see it. Can you enlighten me ?


Fn+n opens the command window and rm (record macro) starts the recorder. I believe it's a function in the OPX and Mario just wrote an interface to it.


Marcus


http://www.mvcsys.de


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Date: 13 Feb 2004 17:08:27 +0000

From: Woody B

Subject: mBook


Itamar asked... "The machine came with the system preloaded. My main question is what file(s) should I have with me at all times to be able to re-install the system in case of a crash or hard reset ? "


Edward Hasbrouck has a nice website on the mBook,

http://hasbrouck.org/netbook/#psion  and has the operating system for the mBook available for download as a 6.3 MB zip file or a 13.7 MB image file. He explains how to reinstall the OS, but briefly you need to put the unzipped OS on a CF at the root directory of the CF, not in a folder. If the mBook dies (dead batteries) recharge/replace the batteries, (it's a Hard reboot, files on C lost), insert the CF and the mBook should reboot and reload the OS onto the C drive. Some folks have found the OS will not load from certain CFs, so it might be best to try this a few times before you get much on the mBook and find a CF that will work for you. I have some fairly large CFs and placed the OS on all.


Someone else can explain how to restore your C drive/settings from a backup (or reference the Digest #).

WoodyB


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Date: 13 Feb 2004 17:20:01 +0000

From: Martin Guthrie

Subject: Re: current v's voltage




Reply to: Antony


Hi Antony,


> I was always tought that "current kills".


Not a bad ethos to live by (literally!).  It IS actually a combination of the two - it's just that a) people only tend to think in terms of voltage, not current - so ignore it at their peril, and b) it's common to come across high voltages but v. small currents (e.g. static electricity) but not so common to come across high currents but very small voltages (e.g. microelectronics tend to use small voltages - typically 1.8V - 5V - and v. small currents - typically 10-100mA).  In that sense a 'low' figure of current - say 10A - combined with a 'low' figure of voltage - say 12V can still be dangerous.  Don't believe me? If you were to touch both terminals of a car battery (don't do it!) you'd get a nasty jolt which (if you used both hands - hence path across chest - and had a weak heart) could potentially (no pun!) kill you...


> It is possible to survive an electric shock of both high current and > potential difference. For example: People being struck by lightning.


Part of the reason a lot of people survive these is also their extremely short duration - a few milliseconds.  If they were longer, a lot more people would fry!


> The important factor is the route the circuit takes. The most common > cause of death due to electric shock is when current flows across the > chest, damaging the heart or inducing a heart attack. If you are

> shocked through your right arm and the current exits via your right

> leg, you may suffer severe burns, but not necessarily die.


Absolutely. 


> RF burns, now they're scary...


Just RF is plain scary!  We're talking lead-lined underwear for sure here...  Electricity, now that's real stuff.  You know where you are with electricity.  RF meets my personal definition of being a sufficiently advanced science so as to be indistinguishable from magic...!


Best regards,

Martin Guthrie

—————————

www.pscience5.net

www.freepoc.org


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Date: 13 Feb 2004 17:31:58 +0000

From: Jack

Subject: Re : Recording macro (2 Itamar)



Re

Quote from Assistant Help ("record") ;

"....Create a new Macro source file, by selecting  "New" and "New file". Select  "Record" to record a new Macro.

"Edit" opens the source code of the selected Macro (if it exists) for modifying....."


I'ld also recommend QuickMac 1.0 from JulianToler... See Pascal N. site (Thanks forever Pascal!)


HTH

Jack

Belonging to "The declining userbase" and using a Psion to free himself from nasties, viruses, worms, horses, spies, adspyblasters, antiviruses, firewalls & "security" updates...


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Date: 13 Feb 2004 18:06:22 +0000

From: Jack

Subject: Re Mbook (2 Itamar)


Hi Itamar,


You need the special Mbook OS.img; see :

www.hasbrouck.org/netbook/#resources


You may have to try differents CFcard as some works and many others don't when trying to load the OS  into the Mbook.


Another option is to exchange your Mbook personnality module (left drawer) for a plain nBook one. Sita does this exchange (100$ or so). This nB  module looks good for your 7 too ;-)


Idem, Web for Mbook is rather specific; you can load it at :

www.hasbrouck.org/netbook/Web_MalayBook.zip


The Mbook comes whith Opera 3.62 which is *quite better* than v 5.14 to rendering pictures.

I'ld suggest to install DualOpera fand then v 5.14 (realease5) from Opera.download.... You the will have the choice 3.62 /5.14 / Web



Jack

PS Bravo for freeing yourself from nasties, viruses, worms, horses, spies, adspyblasters, antiviruses, firewalls & "security" updates... by using a Psion!


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Date: 13 Feb 2004 18:19:35 +0000

From: Philip S. Adkins Potter

Subject: Trojans


Hi Owen,


I apologise for the rather obscure reference to documents. All (non machine code anyway) programs can be considered as documents but it's a neat point. It would have been better to have been clearer.


Certainly all OPL programs *are* documents in that they will only run under a "host" program supplied by the EPOC OS. Trojans are embedded in both documents and programs.


But the point about Trojans really is that they are nasties hidden in apparently innocent programs/documents. They seem to be rare (or even non-existent) in the ER5/4/3 and SIBO  worlds.


Happy days,

Phil.


"Is it progress if a cannibal uses a knife and fork?"


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Date: 13 Feb 2004 19:10:20 +0000

From: Astrid  Stappenbeck

Subject: Euro-sign on 5 classic


Hi,


since the 5 is able to display about anything provided it is installed the easiest way would be to get the 5mx fonts (which include the € symbol and install it in /System/Fonts . The file is eon.gdr and has a size of 205 kb. If somebody knows how to construct such a file one could easily build a 1 kb patch - any ideas?


Astrid


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Date: 13 Feb 2004 19:27:08 +0000

From: vlad a

Subject: Euro symbol # 446 (2)


> Epoc Digest wrote on 13.2.2004 16:06 Uhr:


>> .....5mx and you can see whether the Euro character >> shows on a Psion5.

>

> It won't work! The character isn't there. The 5ive classic was manufactured...


I once installed my MX5pro system on a 5 (batteries out and in, then

inserted the Psion 16MB system-CF which installs it automatically), it

worked (with the obvious differences in silkscreen buttons). Shouldn't this install the neuro-sign (accessible then over the char-table or strg-#)?


best,


vlad


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Date: 13 Feb 2004 19:27:08 +0000

From: vlad a

Subject: stylus mechanism # 446 (2)


> Epoc Digest wrote on 13.2.2004 16:06 Uhr:


>> Can somebody please (once again) tell me where and how to tickle my Psion, to >> repair the mechanism that keeps the stylus in place? Thanks, Bernard Olij,<

>

> If your Psion is a Series 5 / 5MX, you apply gentle force as if to seperate

> the case near the Serial port. ...


Another receipt: take a long ballpoint-pen refill (please clean the tip :-)

or sth similar of suffiecient lentgh and with a rather thin tip, insert it

all the way in the stylus-shaft and press gently.


best,


vlad


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Date: 13 Feb 2004 20:00:09 +0000

From: Jon Welford

Subject: RE: Trojans on Epoc



Hi,


From Owen Hmm... I just had an idea. Yes, that should work...


We know where you are ... Don't do it


We may all have to go to the  28°14.86'N 16°50.54'W

Santa Cruz de La Palma, Canary Island and sort you out - Seems a good

idea to me - put the kettle on.


Jon notrojan Welford


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Date: 13 Feb 2004 22:55:42 +0000

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: Gold Card


Itamar Engelsman wrote:-


> Answer to:  Alan Morris


> Re.: Gold Card - Why don't you just buy a small

> adaptor from the RJ-11 USA plug to the BT plug ?

> They are just a few pounds and come in handy.


Thanks Itamar, I did not know that adapters existed.


--

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion netBook & Nokia 6210e.


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Date: 14 Feb 2004 00:58:15 +0000

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: Re:  Merlin/Netpad


Howdy!


Timothy H.D. Williams wrote (> ):


> There is one thing, though, that I can't get

> Merlin to do. Macro5 allows text clippings which

> it then interprets as dates. They start and finish

> with %%, eg %%date DN DDth of MN, YY.%%


> When I copy and paste these clippings into Merlin

> they don't work. Is there any way with Merlin that

> I can insert customized dates?


Well, at least one that I can think of. Instead of using a clip, write a small macro that inserts the date and anything else you want, and make Merlin run that.


Owen


Thought for the day:

I know it all, I just can't remember it all at once.

--

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-928°14.86'N 16°50.54'W

Santa Cruz de La Palma, Canary Islands


http://home.no.net/naomij

Phone and SMS:

In Spain: +34 620520079

In Norway: +47 9205309


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Date: 14 Feb 2004 06:55:33 +0000

From: Max Ozinsky

Subject: psion shops


Hi all Psioneers


Christoph wrote:


> Being the last remaining Psion shop on earth, it's ok, isnt it ? :-)


Actually there is also a functioning psion shop and repari centre called Psionet in Cape Town which is very active and regularly advertises new Psion 5mx's for sale in large adverts in the Cape Times. So our beloved machines are not dead here. BTW I have no connections with them except being a happy customer.


Max

***************

Max Ozinsky

Cape Town

South Africa

<+27 +82 414-7147


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