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Epoc Digest Tue, 01 Jun 2004 Volume 01 : Number 532
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In today's Epoc Digest 14 messages:
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- No name
- JBStopGo - Opera - CronTab
- EPOC - The reliable OS?
- Faxing with Nokia 6100 and 5mx
- End of S7?: strange happenings; Hello to mBook
- Re: opera; java (4 Philip)
- Re : Backups
- Fonts
- Re: Backups
- Re: Opera #2
- Re: Opera (was: NetBook and WiFi)
- Mail Archiving
- *** SPAM *** S5MX + SonyEricsson T610 + GPRS configuration
- Re: FONTS
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Date: 1 Jun 2004 08:31:57 +0100
From: Mr NO Spam
Subject: JBStopGo - Opera - CronTab
Mike. Thanks for the advice on JBStopGo and my apologies to those that I
incorrectly said that it would not do what I want. I had totally
misunderstood what the app was capable of.
Philip. Welcome to the woeful world of Opera on a netBook. I can only
imagine that a very small proportion of the list use Opera on the
netBook to surf the net, judging by the lack of comment on it.
When you get the blank (Java) page hit menu / window and you will see
that there are probably two windows open. Close the Java one. It is
often the case that certain pages wont work in Opera. Often if there is
some pop up or animation on the page Opera just stops.
Opera is in the OS in build 158. I couldn't get two versions working on
the same netBook. I would delete it off the netBook using the control
panel and use the version in the OS. I know exactly what you mean about
the unstable partners, I seem to be working my way through a few!
Look in preferences / security. I believe that this is how to get rid of
the unencrypted warning.
It doesn't accept return as meaning the same as pressing Yes or OK. Get
used to pressing the buttons on the screen. This is quite definitely the
worst omission IMHO.
You are wasting your time with trying to persuade them to upgrade Opera.
The job wasn't finished and there is no way that they will pick it up
now. The platform is dying.
>>That's a lot of questions. I wonder if there will be any answers.<<
There will be at least one. Take my advice if you are going to use Opera
on the netBook - BACK UP!!
Mike. Well done on the Libretto purchase. They are lovely little devices
and was going to be the device that I was going to buy for an in-car
satnav system.
Keith. Thanks for the advice on the macro error that I advised the list
of. Mine too runs manually, so I follow your logic about the problem
being in CronTab rather than Macro5. Thanks.
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Date: 31 May 2004 21:22:02 +0100
From: Andy Hayes
Subject: EPOC - The reliable OS?
I always thought that the OS was really good and perhaps I am just
having terrible luck recently, but this is what happened tonight: -
1. Clicked on a link to download a file from the net whilst in Opera and
netBook soft resets itself 2. CF reported itself as corrupt and could
not be read by the netBook 3. Put CF card in spare netBook and it was
recognised 4. Ran ChkDsk and it reported that there was an index that
needed repairing 5. Pressed enter and the next index needed repairing
pressed enter 6. Stuck match in Enter key to repair a total of 62,000
indexes 7. EDU crashes running a later process 8. Formatted the CF 9.
Put CF back in original netBook 10. Copy and paste backed up files from
backup CF to fixed CF 11. Paste operation runs for 1 minute then netBook
soft resets itself 12. Run SysBack 13. Run copy and paste again - all
files copied OK 14. Use backup software to restore newer files from
another CF 15. Restore procedure replaces older files 16. Restore then
deletes the entire contents of an extremely large directory 17. Stop
restore and swap CFs to get the full backup onto the now fixed CF 18.
Swap CFs and copy the files that have been more recently backed up to
the now fixed CF manually
Two days data lost in the end and about 3 hours of my life trying to get
the netBook as near as possible to the way that it was before. Grrrrr!
Roll on the arrival of the Powerbook so that I can have a proper
internet tool instead of this excuse for one.
Moral of the story - backup more often than you are at the moment and
visit a web cafe rather than have the pain of trying to surf on a
netbook!
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Date: 31 May 2004 22:39:21 +0100
From: Martin ONeill
Subject: Faxing with Nokia 6100 and 5mx
Hello all,
Does anyone have any experience of faxing with the Nokia 6100 and the
5mx as I am looking at it as an upgrade from my 6210 which works fine
for faxing.
Regards,
Martin O'Neill
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Date: 31 May 2004 23:57:32 +0100
From: Bruce A.Knox
Subject: End of S7?: strange happenings; Hello to mBook
I don't really understand my S7 these days. The Internal drive seems
o.k. (for the last little while) and I've loaded all (few) programs into
it (it has a DIMM expansion). But the D drive repeatedly corrupts Data
and Word files on a SanDisk Ultra II 256mb card. Has anyone had such an
experience? Better still, can anyone explain the happening and/or
suggest a remedy? Very frustrating. However, it has forced me to order
an mBook from Sitashop: they are a bit short of supplies at present
alas. The S7 is 4 years old, so it has done pretty well I suppose. Now
it has the honour of providing a partial backup machine, and a reserve
battery for the mBook.
Viva EPOC ------- Bruce Knox
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Date: 1 Jun 2004 02:06:09 +0100
From: Jack
Subject: Re: opera; java (4 Philip)
Hi Philip,
1- To optimise Opera5 :
http://mobileopera.com/opera5/
http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30137&highlig
ht=opera
2- To set java up:
http://www.epocfaq.co.uk/faqJava.htm
3- To compile :
http://www.hasiland.com/javaonepoc/javac.html http://www.davies.lu/java
HTH
Jack
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Date: 1 Jun 2004 02:24:50 +0100
From: Jack
Subject: Re : Backups
To: Keith Giles & Andy Hayes
"error in Macro5\FGMacro does not exist".
Re:
Quoted from Fastbackup Help
"Using Crontab :
download a patch from:
cshandley.web.users.btopenworld.com/CronTabFix.zip
WARNING! The current version of FastBackup has a bug, so that the macro
fails to work if it is launched as a "Macro". Instead, you must set
it's type to "App/Doc".
You will need the above CronTab fix for this to work."
HTH
Jack
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Date: 1 Jun 2004 10:16:38 +0100
From: Alan Jones
Subject: Fonts
Itamar,
Nobody seems to have pointed this out yet, maybe they thought it was too
obvious, but FontMachine can use *any* truetype font file (.ttf) and
everybody's PC is full of them! (Well mine is, anyway.) Assuming you
have access to a PC (or probably a Mac would do the trick too) just use
Windows Explorer to look in the Windows/System/Fonts folder and browse
what's there, then copy the files to your desktop (Psiwin doesn't like
dealing with the Fonts folder) and thence onto your Psion. Open up the
Fontmachine applet in the Control Panel and choose "add New", and then
you can navigate to where you put the fonts and install them.
If you don't like the fonts on your PC/Mac then there are thousands
freely available on the web, or any Graphics package or whatever comes
with a CD full of them. Most PC fonts don't look particularly good in
small sizes on the Psion, due to the low screen resolution, but they're
good for highlighting Agenda items and so on, and of course they print
just fine. I also use things like Zapf Dingbats which gives you a font
full of little smileys, hearts etc etc! To know which ones to use I've
made a spreadsheet with the whole character set in (numbered with their
ASCII codes) , and then I just set it to that font and use the code to
type the character. If you would like a copy e-mail me off list. (Or if
anyone else would...)
Sorry for waffling rather long
AJ
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Date: 1 Jun 2004 12:49:00 +0100
From: Chris S Handley
Subject: Re: Backups
Andy, Keith,
I have an idea - either you recently installed the new version of
Macro5, or you are using an old/buggy version of Macro5Lib .
If the latter then try installing the new version of Macro5 (from
www.freepoc.org ).
If the former, then it is possible the new version of Macro5Lib does not
incorporate a fix that I read about on www.epocplus.com/support.html ,
which can be downloaded from www.epocplus.com/download/maclib.zip .
Hopefully you can report back to the list if any of this helps.
Regards,
Chris Handley
Keith Giles wrote:
> Andy Hayes wrote:
>> Chris. The backups have taken a backward step with some sort of
>> corruption in Macro5 judging by the error message "error in
>> Macro5\FGMacro does not exist".
>
> That's exactly what I get when I try to have CronTab run a macro I
> wrote to have FastBackup run my 2 profiles automatically. Can't be a
> corruption in Macro5 because my macro runs just fine manually with a
> hotkey I set up in Macro5. It must be something about trying to use
> CronTab.
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Date: 1 Jun 2004 13:25:47 +0100
From: Korbinian Demmel
Subject: Re: Opera #2
Hi Andy
> Once you get to the download page, there
> is some information on the left hand side of the
> page but no link. It took me some time to work out
> that I had to turn off the images, the link then
> becomes visible.
Really shit! I agree :)
> Once the download (you actually
> can only choose open or cancel)...
Right! Very strange! You can't _save_ a pdf-file with Opera (I suppose
you use Opera). Perhaps you can change this behaviour anywhere or
perhaps find a workaround (like reinstalling the pdf-app or something
like that), but it's really strange...
>.... starts the PDF can
> be seen growing in system\apps\opera\cache4\ then
> PDF+ opened and unfortunately dsiplayed a Nokia
> instruction manual file that was the last file I
> had opened in this app. Going back to the system\apps\opera\cache4\
> folder I found that the pdf that I had downloaded had just
> disappeared.
Yes, exact the same occured at my machine yesterday :)
With only one difference: The pdf-file did _not_ disappear! Now, guess
why! .... Because I have ticked 'Preferences|Cache|DiskCache|Cache
other' :)
> As I have said previously the netBook is not the
> ideal tool for surfing the net.
Since I have managed to surf pretty good without constant crashes, I' m
totally fascinated and love going online with the Serie5mxPro! (Of
course without colour :) Sure, with a PC and Opera it is much nicer. But
for short visits, e.g. you got an link via eMail and already have an
internet connection and, very important, don't want to boot you Windows,
it's great in my opinion.
> PDFs. All of my PDFs used to show a question mark
> instead of the PDF icon. I have no recollection of
> purposely doing something, but one day they
> changed to PDF icons. Is that spooky!?
Yes :)
The recogs-files (\system\recogs) are read after reboot and if you
insert a CF-Card which contains these files. (But after reboot, I have
to reinsert my card to ensure that Opera catches html-files instead of
web. In this moment I realized that Opera hasn't any recog-files! Could
somebody explain me how this works?)
regards
Korbinian
(germany)
PS: Your email address wasn't in the header. Therfore I couldn't send
the message pm.
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Date: 1 Jun 2004 13:25:51 +0100
From: Korbinian Demmel
Subject: Re: Opera (was: NetBook and WiFi)
Hi Philip
>... Tommy Cooper
> was a tv and srage magician who specialised in not
> getting his tricks right. ...
*g* interesting guy
> If it gets to a page that requires Java, it just sits
> there and doesn't seem to do anything.
IMHO starting a Java applet, with or without opera, needs much time. And
at the beginning you don't see anything. Unfortunately you don't see
anything if it runs out of memory as well! Although, I have to correct
myslef: Opera will present an error message like 'Error Kern 3' :)
> I downloaded a version of Opera 5.14 from the
> Opera website that identified itself, confusingly,
> as Opera 10.0.
Same at my psion. (Perhaps this means: This is our very last revision!
We won't do any more! :)
> It loaded well, but as soon as it
> got to anything it dfidn't like fell over with
> ERROR_KERN 3. It also nagged a lot about being
> paid. It was faster than the resident version, but
> was like an illicit partner: too unstable to live
> with. Is there a way to make it better?
I own a 5mxPro. I had the same experience. I tried using Opera often,
but after a few sites it crashed regularly. Therefore is used it only
for offline browsing. Now I have managed it to work with about 5-6 MB of
free RAM very well. Ok, it still crashes sometimes, but this isn't such
annoying. It works now even well if I download images. I set the
following preferences:
_____________________
Cache/DiskCache:
Disk cache = 100 - 400 kB
documents = yes
images = no
other = yes
empty = no
______________________
Cache/RAMCache:
automatic = no
documents = no
images = no
doc size = 1k (should be ignored, because
documents is not set but..)
image size = 1k (same as above)
rendered i = no
______________________
Plugins:
plugins = no
javascript = yes
js errors = no
java = no (if you need java, turn it on,
but try it first without)
You should also run a small app which holds the internet connection if
opera crashes nevertheless. (e.g. NetUtils, nICQ etc.)
> 2. Opera keeps telling me that data are being sent unecrypted, and do
> I agree with this? How do I turn this nag off?
I think you can't turn it off.
> 3. It doesn't seem to accept <RETURN> as meaning
> the the same as pressing Yes pr OK onscreen. Can I
> change this?
You mean for example in google, that's right. If I remember correctly in
other cases it works... There is no preference you can change.
> One of the Opera divas (called Haavard) replied that
> they had no such plans, nor would they allow the
> code out for others to fix. ...
> Do you think we could achieve anything if we all
> wrote in to say we wished they would? ...
Would be interesting! An improved Opera App would be very powerfull!
Some features are definitely lacking:
copy link address
maximize frame (Yesterday I found this feature in our good old
Wep-App! :)
one frame with frame list
copy link as
etc.
(not forgetting the feature called: 'I don't close myself if a
website is too big')
Perhaps somebody could write a 'Opera Protected Mode'-App :) The app
should reserves about 100kB and if it recognizes too less RAM, it free
up the 100kB and then stop further downloading a page by sending [esc]
to opera...
regards
Korbinian
(germany)
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Date: 1 Jun 2004 16:23:30 +0100
From: Steve Hodgson
Subject: Mail Archiving
I have been looking at possible ways to archive EPOC mail so that it
will be accessible on other operating systems (or PDAs) as an archive.
Ideally I would like to import all my sent mail into an email client
such as The Bat but I reckon this would be over-ambitious.
So far I have tried MailArc and SaveMail with the first of these looking
the more capable. It's unfortunate that it generates a single flat file
but it is a fairly simple task to generate an Access report as PDF, RTF
or plain text from that data.
Does anyone know if there any more elegant or more powerful ways to
achieve what I am after? I would have to say that I don't consider using
the emulator to be a solution.
Regards,
Steve Hodgson
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Date: 1 Jun 2004 08:07:58 +0100
From: "Gilles G. CASANOVA"
Subject: *** SPAM *** S5MX + SonyEricsson T610 + GPRS configuration
Has anyone succeeded in connecting a S 5 mx to the internet through the
T610 's GPRS modem ( IR link between phone and psion). I alway get a
modem initialisation error. It perfectly works with my laptop PC
though...
Gilles G. CASANOVA
STID Menton
04.93.28.66.89
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Date: 1 Jun 2004 17:37:56 +0100
From: Astrid Stappenbeck
Subject: Re: FONTS
Hi Itamar,
> Some time ago i downloaded the Fontloader program and use now besides
> the standard fonts also ArialNarrow, Bungalo and Comic Sans. Has
> anyone got other fonts file you can send me or websites where you can
> download fonts from ? <
I find ZapfDingbats quite useful, there is also Tolkien Runes but that
is a bit hard to read - more for playing around.
Others: Symbol, Thai, Jaridah, ruskoi-8 but probably not of general
interest, I suppose... All are from the website that is the homepage of
Simon Quinn's great EBook application. I forgot the URL but that one
www.google.com/palm should find it.
Hope that helps,
Astrid
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