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In today's Epoc Digest 15 messages:
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- Re: Shuffling Savemail Archives
- RE: Tomtom Maps
- RE: TomTom Maps
- RE: Nokia takes on Microsoft in mobile laptop market
- Re. CF brand recommendations, Restore C drive via email
- Re: In memory of Darryl Kempster
- Eric, USB Client
- Error Correction - RE: Nokia takes on Microsoft in mobile laptop market
- CF brand recommendations?, Shuffling Savemail Archives, Backup with low
battery,
- Nokia takes on Microsoft in mobile laptop market,
- problems with email-app (very long)
- Re: CF brand recommendations?
- TomTom CityMaps
- SMTP credentials
- Free ISP in Italy
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Date: 6 Jul 2004 05:44:39 +0700
From: Jack
Subject: Re: Shuffling Savemail Archives
Hi Edward,
>>>She wanted to know how to move one single record from one archive file
toanother. We could not see a way to do this simply using the built in
Dataprogramme's menus. <<<
Re: see this way
ctl+p ... Range
ctl+p ... Via "File"
ctl+s ...
Jack
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Date: 6 Jul 2004 06:42:59 +0700
From: Bob
Subject: RE: Tomtom Maps
Hi Itamar,
Thanks for the info. John Stolk told me the same thing. Do you just go to
Tomtom and download a different version of the maps and they work on our
Psions????
Thanks,
Bob
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Date: 6 Jul 2004 07:46:16 +0700
From: KL
Subject: RE: TomTom Maps
Question to: Bob and Itamar
Re.: TomTom Maps - this confuses me now. Can you tell me what the latest
versions of the RoutePlanner and Maps were? I have TomTom Routeplanner 3.0
(build 207) and TomTom CityMaps 3.0 (build 204). As I use them both quite
frequently, I would like to upgrade to the latest that is still available.
Is there a way to get more recent maps that were made for other
applications/devices and transfer them to the Psion?
Regards
Karsten.
> Re.: TomTom Maps - At the time I bought the upgrade CD. Indeed, TomTom do>
not have any EPOC programs anymore, although as indicated earlier their
> maps still work for EPOC.
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Date: 6 Jul 2004 08:03:56 +0700
From: Martin Maxwell
Subject: RE: Nokia takes on Microsoft in mobile laptop market
From: Martin Maxwell
Answer to Alan Morris
Subject: RE: Nokia takes on Microsoft in mobile laptop market
Dear Alan,
Thanks for the information!
>That's a headline in today's Microscope, a PC trade weekly journal.
They>report that a 'senior source at Nokia' has said that Nokia are trialling
a>sub-notebook, designed for mobile wire-less Internet access.
These rumours have been around for some time. They are not fully verified
yet.I and other people supporting the netBook Pro Symbian petition and the
varioussurrounding activities have been in touch with Nokia on several
occasions regarding
this matter. It has also been discussed at the Nokia developer forum as early
as
Oct 2003 when it was clear that Psion had officially no interest in a Symbian
version of
the netBook Pro.
>It has many advantages over a traditional Windows laptop (now that's not>too
difficult is it!) and is powered by Nokia's Series 60 software running>on the
Symbian OS.<
As noted here regarding the netBook Pro Symbian petition some time back,
thisis most likely based on the Series 90 and not the Series 60. A serious
"netBook communicator"
project cannot possibly be based on Series 60 for obvious reasons.
>This sounds much like an updated EPOC netBook, but I'm a bit lost about
the>security protocols from Microsoft that are the prime perpetuator of
virus>laden e-mails.
I think the person from Intel is seriously mistaken.
>I've not followed the versions after ER5, so could someone please explain>in
a few words the differences of the various later versions, such as>Series 60.
EPOC32 or EPOC - as the Symbian OS was once called - was originally developed
to be able to
support multiple user interfaces around the same core OS. Up to EPOC Release
5 (ER5, later called Symbian OS v5)
we did not see much of this, because all EPOC Psions were using variants of
the Eikon
user interface. So people tended to forget that the true name for the user
interface is Eikon and referred to the whole thing as EPOC or ER5. There was,
however, one released ER5 device that *did* use a different userinterface.
That is the Ericsson R380 smartphone!
In brief, this means that whenever you talk about Symbian devices you will
need to specify *both*
the OS version and the user interface (UI). It is the combination of those
two which defines what type of device we're talking about. Here is a short
list of the user interfaces have existed on Symbian OS in real devices
until today:
Eikon - used in Psion S5/S5mx/Revo/netBook/S7/netPad as well as the never
completed "Conan" and "Thor". Of course it was also used in the Ericsson
MC218, Diamond Mako, Geofox One and the Oregon Osaris (Eikon is still used
internally in Symbian for a development and testing environment called
TechView.) The question has been asked if Eikon ever was running on a later
version of Symbian OS. The answer is yes! "Conan" had Eikon running on
Symbian OS v6 (ER6) in advanced prototypes. And TechView has been known to be
running on Symbian OS v7 (ER7).
ECK - used in R380 on ER5. ECK is owned by Ericsson, I guess it has been
supplanted by UIQ forever.
UIQ - is mostly known to be the user interface used in Sony Ericsson
P800/P900 and Motorola A920/A920/A1000, but there are several other devices
using it from BenQ amongst others. UIQ typically runs on Symbian OS v7 (ER7),
but there were prototypes running on Symbian OS v6 (ER6), most notably the
never completed Psion-Motorola "Odin". The screen of UIQ is typically
portrait 208 x 320 but can scale a bit larger. In a recent development UIQ
will also come in a direct "Series 60" competitor version for one hand
operation and smaller screens.
Series 60 - is specifically designed for one-handed operation smartphones,
e.g. Nokia 6600, 3650, Siemens SX 1, Sendo X and a rapidly increasing
number of models from Nokia, Samsung, Panasonic, Sendo etc etc. It has so far
appeared on Symbian OS v6 and Symbian OS v7. (Hence it is totally unsuitable
for a "netBook" type device). Series 60 is owned by Nokia and avaliable on
licence. Series 60 uses a portrait form factor screen, typically 178 x 208
pixels but can scale upwards a bit.
Series 80 - was originally a port of the GEOS UI used in early Nokia
Communicators over to Symbian OS v6. The result was the Nokia 9210 and its
siblings with a 640 x 200 pixel screen. Over time Series 80 became more and
more like Eikon used to be except for the touch screen. Series 80 now runs on
the new Nokia 9500 Communicator on Symbian OS v7 (ER7) and now, like the
netBook, supporting WiFi.
Series 90 - is the closest of the Nokia user interfaces to the original
Eikon. Simplistically, Series 90 is a Series 80 with touch screen support.
Series 90 has a scaleable screen suitable for "netBook" type devices, but has
not yet been available in a released device. The Nokia 7700
Mediastation with a 640 x 320 pixel screen (same as Geofox One!) announced
late 2003 was supposed to be the first but this device has recently been
demoted to demonstrator status only. Nokia has hinted that new Series 90
device will be released in 2005.
FFUI - is an abbreviation for Fujitsu FOMA User Interface. This user
interface is similar to Series 60 in usage and target devices, but
specifically developed to support NTT DoCoMo?s FOMA 3G network. As far as I
am aware of FFUI is running on Symbian OS v6 (ER6).
For ex Psion users, it is important to note that both Series 80 and Series 90
running on Symbian OS v6 and v7 (ER6 and ER7) incorporates the classic - but
updated - Symbian Office applications, e.g. Symbian Word and Symbian Sheet.
Hope this gives a basic orientation. Take note that I have ignored minor
Symbian version numbers (like v6.1, v7s and ER5.1 or ER5u) for simplicity -
it is already getting quite complex!
Finally, of all these user interfaces, it is really only Eikon and Series 90
that could be serious alternatives for a netBook size Communicator.
cheers
Martin Maxwell
Ubud - Bali
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Date: 6 Jul 2004 08:27:59 +0700
From: Ian Chapple
Subject: Re. CF brand recommendations, Restore C drive via email
Edward,
>>The EPOC FAQ says Dane-Elec cards are "Cheap, fast, perfect on 5mx, but
unable to write warnings on Netbook". What is the symptom of "unable to
write warnings on Netbook"? Corrupt card? Or? Any recommendation of a USA
source of 128MB or 256MB card that's cheap, adequately fast, and tested in
both 5MX and netBook would be welcomed.<<
I bought a 256MB Dane-Elec high-speed card, for use as the D drive in my
netbook; I think the speed is rated as 40x normal speed, it costs about
euro 10 more than the "normal" Dane-Elec card and has a very long warranty
(10 or 20 years, or lifetime, I forget which). It works fine in my
netbook; I have used it once in my 5mx, to transfer some data, but have not
used it extensively, so cannot really say if it would work properly all of
the time.
Howard,
>>Had a major reset of my 5mx, effectively resetting my device. I do have
a backup on the D drive.
The problen- everything is affected by zExe.
In order to unzip the C drive backup, I need to replace the login details for
Earthlink. The support for Earthlink is unfamiliar with the device, andis
unable to supply the needed details.<<
I'm not sure exactly what it is that you are asking here; perhaps you could
be a bit clearer about what the problem is, and what information you need
to overcome it...
Cheers, Ian
*++++++++++&
Date: 6 Jul 2004 08:57:46 +0700
From: Gianluca Gallino
Subject: Re: In memory of Darryl Kempster
FYI, we started a thread on PsionPlace (PdaStreet) about Darryl, in which the
original message from Itamar was fully quoted. In case some of the Digestees
wishes to drop a line, PLS feel free to do so at the following links:
http://www.pdastreet.com/forums//showthread.php?threadid=44844
http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/printthread.php?s=&threadid=44844(printer-frie
ndly version for all those connecting from a mobile phone)
Ciao
Gianluca
*++++++++++&
Date: 6 Jul 2004 10:05:09 +0700
From: robertsont
Subject: Eric, USB Client
Eric Lindsay wrote:
<It is now possible to link USB peripherals to a PDA/Smartphone that only
has an USB client port , provided it has a fully supported expansion card
slot or embedded BT/IRCOMM/WiFi
This requires some form of bridging device that comes in the form of some
bland nondescript plastic or sheet metal box , containing an embedded PCor
PDA platform , running linux or bsd>
This sounds exciting! Is there more information on this somewhere on theweb?
would be keen to have a go with my netbook.
Regards,
Tom
<*++++++++++&
Date: 6 Jul 2004 11:40:45 +0700
From: Martin Maxwell
Subject: Error Correction - RE: Nokia takes on Microsoft in mobile laptop
market
RESEND due to error correction - a bracket was misplaced under the Series 60
description.
From: Martin Maxwell
Answer to Alan Morris
Subject: RE: Nokia takes on Microsoft in mobile laptop market
Dear Alan,
Thanks for the information!
>That's a headline in today's Microscope, a PC trade weekly journal.
They>report that a 'senior source at Nokia' has said that Nokia are trialling
a>sub-notebook, designed for mobile wire-less Internet access.
These rumours have been around for some time. They are not fully verified
yet.I and other people supporting the netBook Pro Symbian petition and the
varioussurrounding activities have been in touch with Nokia on several
occasions regarding
this matter. It has also been discussed at the Nokia developer forum as early
as
Oct 2003 when it was clear that Psion had officially no interest in a Symbian
version of
the netBook Pro.
>It has many advantages over a traditional Windows laptop (now that's not>too
difficult is it!) and is powered by Nokia's Series 60 software running>on the
Symbian OS.<
As noted here regarding the netBook Pro Symbian petition some time back,
thisis most likely based on the Series 90 and not the Series 60. A serious
"netBook communicator"
project cannot possibly be based on Series 60 for obvious reasons.
>This sounds much like an updated EPOC netBook, but I'm a bit lost about
the>security protocols from Microsoft that are the prime perpetuator of
virus>laden e-mails.
I think the person from Intel is seriously mistaken.
>I've not followed the versions after ER5, so could someone please explain>in
a few words the differences of the various later versions, such as>Series 60.
EPOC32 or EPOC - as the Symbian OS was once called - was originally developed
to be able to
support multiple user interfaces around the same core OS. Up to EPOC Release
5 (ER5, later called Symbian OS v5)
we did not see much of this, because all EPOC Psions were using variants of
the Eikon
user interface. So people tended to forget that the true name for the user
interface is Eikon and referred to the whole thing as EPOC or ER5. There was,
however, one released ER5 device that *did* use a different userinterface.
That is the Ericsson R380 smartphone!
In brief, this means that whenever you talk about Symbian devices you will
need to specify *both*
the OS version and the user interface (UI). It is the combination of those
two which defines what type of device we're talking about. Here is a short
list of the user interfaces have existed on Symbian OS in real devices
until today:
Eikon - used in Psion S5/S5mx/Revo/netBook/S7/netPad as well as the never
completed "Conan" and "Thor". Of course it was also used in the Ericsson
MC218, Diamond Mako, Geofox One and the Oregon Osaris (Eikon is still used
internally in Symbian for a development and testing environment called
TechView.) The question has been asked if Eikon ever was running on a later
version of Symbian OS. The answer is yes! "Conan" had Eikon running on
Symbian OS v6 (ER6) in advanced prototypes. And TechView has been known to be
running on Symbian OS v7 (ER7).
ECK - used in R380 on ER5. ECK is owned by Ericsson, I guess it has been
supplanted by UIQ forever.
UIQ - is mostly known to be the user interface used in Sony Ericsson
P800/P900 and Motorola A920/A920/A1000, but there are several other devices
using it from BenQ amongst others. UIQ typically runs on Symbian OS v7 (ER7),
but there were prototypes running on Symbian OS v6 (ER6), most notably the
never completed Psion-Motorola "Odin". The screen of UIQ is typically
portrait 208 x 320 but can scale a bit larger. In a recent development UIQ
will also come in a direct "Series 60" competitor version for one hand
operation and smaller screens. This version of UIQ will only
be released on Symbian OS v8 and later.
Series 60 - is specifically designed for one-handed operation smartphones
(Hence it is totally unsuitable for a "netBook" type device), e.g. Nokia
6600, 3650, Siemens SX 1, Sendo X and a rapidly increasing number of models
from Nokia, Samsung, Panasonic, Sendo etc etc. It has so far appeared on
Symbian OS v6 and Symbian OS v7. Series 60 is owned by Nokia and avaliable on
licence. Series 60 uses a portrait form factor screen, typically 178 x 208
pixels but can scale upwards a bit. Series 60 has been running on both
Symbian OS v6 and v7.
Series 80 - was originally a port of the GEOS UI used in early Nokia
Communicators over to Symbian OS v6. The result was the Nokia 9210 and its
siblings with a 640 x 200 pixel screen. Over time Series 80 became more and
more like Eikon used to be except for the touch screen. Series 80 now runs on
the new Nokia 9500 Communicator on Symbian OS v7 (ER7) and now, like the
netBook, supporting WiFi.
Series 90 - is the closest of the Nokia user interfaces to the original
Eikon. Simplistically, Series 90 is a Series 80 with touch screen support.
Series 90 has a scaleable screen suitable for "netBook" type devices, but has
not yet been available in a released device. The Nokia 7700
Mediastation with a 640 x 320 pixel screen (same as Geofox One!) announced
late 2003 was supposed to be the first but this device has recently been
demoted to demonstrator status only. Nokia has hinted that new Series 90
device will be released in 2005. Series 90 is currently running on Symbian OS
v7.
FFUI - is an abbreviation for Fujitsu FOMA User Interface. This user
interface is similar to Series 60 in usage and target devices, but
specifically developed to support NTT DoCoMo?s FOMA 3G network. As far as I
am aware of FFUI is running on Symbian OS v6 (ER6).
For ex Psion users, it is important to note that both Series 80 and Series 90
running on Symbian OS v6 and v7 (ER6 and ER7) incorporates the classic - but
updated - Symbian Office applications, e.g. Symbian Word and Symbian Sheet.
Hope this gives a basic orientation. Take note that I have ignored minor
Symbian version numbers (like v6.1, v7s and ER5.1 or ER5u) for simplicity -
it is already getting quite complex!
Finally, of all these user interfaces, it is really only Eikon and Series 90
that could be serious alternatives for a netBook size Communicator.
cheers
Martin Maxwell
Ubud - Bali
*++++++++++&
Date: 6 Jul 2004 14:24:11 +0700
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: CF brand recommendations?, Shuffling Savemail Archives, Backup with
low battery,
Answer to: Edward Hasbrouck
Re.: CF brand recommendations? - I use a variety of different makes for my
photography (professional use) as well as my mBook and until now have not
encountered any problems with them. Yes, there might be a difference in speed
but you talk about seconds and not minutes. Did you try to format
your CF-card again in your Psion ? If you need to buy a new one, buy a well
known make at a competitive price.
Answer to: Simon
Re.: Shuffling Savemail Archives - A much faster way to do it is to use the
macros "COCOPAPA" which will allow you to first copy all the fields, than
change to the other data file and paste each field in the right place. I've
put the macros in macro5 and a quick FN+w and p does the copying and Fn+w and
v does the pasting.
Answer to: Chris S Handley
Re.: Backup with low battery - Are we sure that it is indeed a clear defined
border that will trigger this, or could it be that is differs from Psion to
Psion, from battery to battery or from one time to the next ?
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
*++++++++++&
Date: 6 Jul 2004 14:24:12 +0700
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: Nokia takes on Microsoft in mobile laptop market,
Answer to: Alan Morris
Re.: Nokia takes on Microsoft in mobile laptop market - That is a very
interesting piece of information. Could this mean that Nokia have taken
over the development of the Symbian platform into an updated type of nBook
running a new version of EPOC (called Symbian) ? If so, it would most
probably have Wifi and Bluetooth and renewed compatibillity with third
party software like TomTom Navigator to mention but one ? If they would
succeed I am sure Mr. Potter will scratch his head and wonder where he went
wrong .... !? Are there any websites that would have further details ?
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
*++++++++++&
Date: 7 Jul 2004 01:17:57 +0700
From: Korbinian Demmel
Subject: problems with email-app (very long)
Hi digesters,
I want to tell from some experiences with the beloved email-app. I had to say
before, my system was running a long time and I had often played around with
the files in '\system\mail\'. Therefore I don't want claim epoc or the
email-app to be guilty of following error(s).
For 4 times (the last 3 times occured in a short interval of one week) one
(and always the same) complete folder inside email-app was deleted! Not
only erased from index-file but also in FS. Fortunately this was only the
folder for all my digests.
Content:
------------
1) How this happened
2) How I tried to minimize loss of data
3) "Tidy up" mail storage
4) Conclusion
[This is a very long mail. Sorry! Just search for '++++++++++' if you want to
jump over it.]
1) How this happened: (only approximately)-------------------------------
I was downloading my personal emails (moving inside inbox via shortcut
command). Then I opened my digest-account and moved this files as well to the
later vanished folder (via cut-paste). After download of my personal emails
has finished I closed this mailbox.
I like doing many things at once (like a woman:) therefore I eventually run
nICQ or NetUtils to sync my clock or only look at some webpages.
But one thing I realized every four times is that my psion (5mxPro) becomes
very slow. And one time I tried to view the status window in email and an
error message 'not found' appeared.
That is was. After some time my psion gets back on form and I have
astonishing much RAM available! :)
2) How I tried to minimize loss of
data:-------------------------------------------------------
I simply restored the folder 'system\mail\00001001_S\' (there all emails
incl. attachement are stored as well as all folders inside email-app) from my
backup on CF but didn't overwrite any existing file. After that I recreated
the index-file as it was often described in the digest.(!!It seems to be
important to create immediately a message (and save this, I don't know) after
email finished with creating index!!)
[deleting index-file, create agenda-file with filename 'index', close agenda,
start email-app, ...wait long time..., create and save message, close
email-app]
Now, every email is there except the emails in the vanished folder since the
last backup, of course.
3) "Tidy up" mail storage:
------------------------------------
Now comes the interesting part :) Some guys of you wanted to delete rogue fax
accounts, didn't you?
Because this happened for the 4th time, although I recreated the index-file
repeatedly. And because it seems that something really was messed up: My
SMS-account (you see the name in the menu if you want to change its
settings) was called '[epoc-digest]'... (*g* Strange or?!), I decided to try
to tidy up completely. Of course, if possible, without loosing my
emails.First I did an full backup of '\system\mail\' which is always a good
idea when playing around in there :)
Here it goes: [This is some additional information]
- Then I renamed the data-folder ('system\mail\00001001_S\') and deleted the
remaining folders/files.
[Now email-app sees no files and created a completely new data structure]
- Start email-app and close it.
[Don't try to create any accounts! Because of the naming convention of the
files/folders (8 digits in hexadecimal which always increase) there is
never a possibility to have the same filename twice. Even if emails a
deleted, this filenames will never be used again. (I don't want to know if
you have over 0xFFFFFFFF files *g*). The point is, every account, folder
and email inside email-app will get one of this increasing filenames. But
till now, email doesn't know about the last number, therefore it will begin
at '00000002' for example. If you create three accounts (every accout will
use 2 filenames for to files and 2 folders (named with added '_S') in
'\system\mail' (later there are 2 more folders (named with added '_F')))
you will have '00000002' to '00000007'. But perhaps you have created or
downloaded some emails before you have created this accounts at that time.
Then you will mess up email-app with this duplicate filenames, I guess. (I
had some trouble with some strange errors first. This could has been the
reason.)]
- delete data-folder and re-rename you old data-folder.
- recreate index-file
- Now it's finished.
Of course you have to enter all your account information
again.[Theoretically, providing you copying the correct files and recreate
the index, it should be possible to avoid this, but I didn't wanted to risk
too much.]
4) Conclusion:
--------------------
Till now everything seems to work fine. But to be honest, I had not enough
time to be really sure.
[to complete information about data structure: folders/files which are named
'00100000' and '00100001' belongs to the standard SMS- and FAX-accounts. Then
there is '00001000' and '00001001'. The last one seems
to have to do anything with the folder structure in email-app (local). Every
other file inside '\system\mail' (besides 'index') are files from created
accounts.]
Hopefully I brought some light to the darkness! *g*
regards
Korbinian
(germany)
PS: Do I get an award for perhaps the longest contribution :))
*++++++++++&
Date: 7 Jul 2004 02:21:23 +0700
From: Keith Giles
Subject: Re: CF brand recommendations?
Edward Hasbrouck wrote:
> You break the blister pack, you've bought it.
Have you tried Fry's? I've had no problem returning anything (except
software). I think Palo Alto would be the closest store to San Francisco
(check Fry's web site).
> Any recommendation of a USA source of 128MB or 256MB card that's
> cheap, adequately fast, and tested in both 5MX and netBook would be >
welcomed.
FWIW, I've been using SanDisk CF cards (128MB, 256MB, and 512MB) in my 5mx
and Mbook with no problems. Fast, I know nothing about. I just buy plain
vanilla CF cards. For a card reader, I've been using an Imation FlashGo!
2.0 (USB 2.0) - it handles 5 different media cards, but I use it mainly for
backing up my CF D drives to my PC. I think I bought it on sale at Staples.
It sure works fast for me.
I found a 512MB CF card at a very good price ($82.48 including tax and
shipping) from http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Home.jsp, but I suppose CFs
are cheaper now.
I think that only once, in all the time I've been using the SanDisks, did I
get a corrupt card notice. I put it in the reader and reformatted with
Windows, copied my backup onto the card, and was back in business.
Happy Cycling,
KeithSunnyvale, CA
http://ohsix827.home.comcast.net
Thought For The Day: Living with a saint is more grueling than being one.
All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.
*++++++++++&
Date: 7 Jul 2004 07:47:22 +0700
From: Fredrik Johansson
Subject: TomTom CityMaps
I have just bought the program TomTom CityMaps and tried to install it on my
mBook (Malaya NetBook) from my PC I followed the instruction given in
Autosetup and chosen epoc and then colour. After that I installed some
maps. Then when I tried to start the program on my mBook,
the start-up images flash once and then I got the message:
Program closed
Program Citymaps
Reason code No maps
Reason number -1
I have tried to install it on the Internal as well as on an external CF disc?
I will very soon go abroad with my car and thought using this maps as a guide.
It says that it is the version : Copyright Palmtop BV 2002 and that it should
be compatible with :EPOC series 5, Revo & compatibles
Could someone please help me?
PS. In reality I realise now that I needed the Routeplanner instead and I got
the wrong or
maybe it could be good to have the both? Anyone out there that have an
experience?
Best Regards,
/Fredrik
*++++++++++&
Date: 7 Jul 2004 11:29:57 +0700
From: Marcus von Cube
Subject: SMTP credentials
Neil Thompson,
>>Have been setting up my Revo to collect email and notice that there seemsto
be way to set separate login details for the SMTP server.<<
You'll need SmtpAuth (www.mvcsys.de/download), a Java application that adds
the capability to provide a username & password to email for outgoing
mails. Your main problem might be that a Revo is too memory constrained to
load Java and the app. (PSIONJVM is neccessary but it's huge!)
Marcus
*++++++++++&
Date: 7 Jul 2004 12:11:56 +0700
From: Kevin Collins
Subject: Free ISP in Italy
Hi folks,
I hope to be in Italy for a period next month, and wonder can someone please
recommend a free ISP in that country to enable me obtain internet access via
local calls, please?
Many thanks.
Regards,
Kevin [Cork, Ireland]
*++++++++++&
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