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The Digest Thu, 02 Sep 2004 Volume 01 : Number 587
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- Autosvar - Ikke til stede: The Digest V1 # 586
- Re: WINMAIL.DAT
- Re: Winmail.dat
- Re: Durabillity of Symbian
- Re: Durabillity of Symbian
- Re winmail.dat?
- Re Revo -Open Case
- PSION 5MX und Sony Ericcosn K700
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Date: 1 Sep 2004 11:24:57 +0000
From: Viggo Buje
Subject: Autosvar - Ikke til stede: The Digest V1 # 586
Tak for din mail. Jeg holder ferie og er først tilbage på kontoret onsdag den 22. september 2004.
Thanks for your mail. I'm on vacation. I will be back in office 22 September 2004. Urgent mail can be send to Hans Erik Lykke Hansen: helh
Venlig hilsen / Best Regards
Viggo Buje
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Date: 1 Sep 2004 12:27:41 +0000
From: Marcus von Cube
Subject: Re: WINMAIL.DAT
Owen,
the strange attachment is an Outlook file containing the message in rich text format. Tell the sender to switch the default mail format to "plain text" at least when they are sending stuff to you. I found a description here:
http://www.gpc.edu/~jbenson/resource/winmail.htm
Marcus
http://www.mvcsys.de
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Date: 1 Sep 2004 12:38:04 +0000
From: Ian Chapple
Subject: Re: Winmail.dat
Owen,
>>When I get e-mails from WindoZe users, there is often an attachment called Winmail.dat. Could someone please tell me what this is and more importantly, what settings should be altered on the WindoZe box to stop it sending this? I know it's nothing nasty, but as far as I can see, it's just a waste of space and bandwidth, particularly when I have to pay through the nose to get my e-mail through a GSM phone.<<
I found the following article regarding this problem:
http://www.pchell.com/support/winmaildat.shtml
What is this winmail.dat file?
Many times you might receive an email with an attachment called winmail.dat. The file is sent from people using Microsoft Outlook as their email program. The file allows Outlook users to send Transport Neutral Encapsulation Format (TNEF) information along with the email so that it retains the look and feel of the document with formatting, fonts, and colors when its received by another Microsoft Outlook user.
Unfortunately, the file is only relevant and used by Microsoft Outlook. Users of Outlook Express, Eudora, Netscape Messenger, and other email programs will receive the attachment called winmail.dat with the email.
The file is attached to the email because the original sender is sending emails in Microsoft Outlook Rich Text Format instead of Plain Text format.
How to Configure Outlook NOT to send Winmail.dat attachments
To Turn off Rich Text sending for messages in Microsoft Outlook
1) Click on Tools
2) Click Options, and then click the Mail Format tab.
3) In the Send in this Message Format list, select Plain Text, and then click OK.
This will set your default sending method to Plain Text, which will lose your special formatting options with fonts, colors, etc. However everyone, no matter what email program they are using, will now be able to receive your email with no problems.
The appropriate Microsoft Knowledge Base article is
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138053
Cheers, Ian.
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Date: 1 Sep 2004 14:11:22 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Durabillity of Symbian
Dear Itamar,
<< Can anyone comment on the likelyhood of Symbian in it's current form to continue to be around for many years to come ? >>
Well ... would you have predicted that Nokia, Ericsson and Motorola would take a financial stake in the development of EPOC, forming the Symbian alliance together with Psion? Would you have predicted Motorola's sudden withdrawal from the ODIN joint development project, leading to Psion moving out of the consumer market? I'm afraid nobody can give a true answer to your question. Unless there's a digest member who has the gift of prophesy. Still, it's clear that Symbian OS is in a better position than EPOC was when still in the hands of Psion. Symbian Ltd. is well financed, has as number of very well known licensees and there are a good number of Symbian OS based products in several categories. What's more, Symbian OS is currently the world's best selling smartphone operating system. It's therefore fair to say that Symbian OS will be around for a number of years.
Whether it's in the same format and in the same type of products is anybody's guess. We've both witnessed the rise of the Palm type of PDA and the demise of the miniature laptop type of PDA. Something similar can happen within the smartphone market. It's a relatively new market and the definitive smartphone format has yet to be established. The
same can be said for smartphone applications. The developers of the GSM standard had no idea that SMS messaging would become so big - with millions of SMS messages being exchanged each day. I think we'd all cheer when Symbian, together with its licensees, comes up with a
similar runaway success application. It's also possible that another company, even a newcomer, creates such an application so that consumer focus shifts away from Symbian OS based phones.
<< I am sure no EPOC user would like to jump to Symbian to find in a few years that their software will cease to be developed further as
well .... >>
There are only two certainties in life : Death and Taxation. All the rest is subject to change. As long as a whole industry doesn't opt for
a common standard there's always the risk that the type/class of device you buy will prove to be a dead end. Consumers didn't have to fear that the CD would be a dead end product as the whole record industry moved from the LP to the CD. The smartphone industry didn't choose a single standard operating system. The consumer therefore doesn't know at this point in time whether the smartphone/OS combination (s)he buys will
turn out to be the equivalent of the Philips V2000 video cassette system.
It's one of the aspects of our type of economy. Manufacturers create a range of products - the consumer makes his/her choice - and there will be winners and losers. When you want to get rid of the associated uncertainties you'd have to shift to a Soviet-style planned economy in which the Department of Economic Affairs decides on which product are
to be built and in which quantities they're going to be produced.
The only thing you can do at the moment is to have a detailed look at the smartphone industry and to extrapolate current positions and
trends. Some of your uncertainties and doubts will be removed by such an investigation, while others will be reduced. What you'll end up
with, however, is still an educated guess.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 1 Sep 2004 21:37:01 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Durabillity of Symbian
Dear Martin,
<< It is not subject to David Potter's whims and fancies anymore >>
It's thanks to Dr. Potter's whims and fancies that we've been using Psion handheld computers. The first Psion Organiser was a bit of a gamble as there hadn't been a device like it before. The Organiser was a success - succeeding models even more so. There was a time when the whole class of devices were called organisers, until Apple's John Scully started to talk about the PDA.
It's also thanks to Dr. Potter's whims and fancies that we're now talking about Symbian OS. He foresaw that the PDA and the mobile phone would merge into the smartphone and decided to license the EPOC operating system Psion was working on. The main target being the mobile phone manufacturers as they would have a much bigger influence on what smarphones would be than the PDA manufacturers. Psion was very successful as it beat its rivals, Microsoft and Palm, in the OS licensing stakes.
I suppose that your "whims and fancies" is based on Psion PLc. selling it's stake in Symbian Ltd. That was to be expected as the company had two Symbian OS licensees - Psion Computers and Psion-Teklogix. Psion Computers has pulled out of the consumer market and has been wound up. While Psion-Teklogix has been in the process to move its products to Windows CE due to market conditions. A process which has been completed recently with the introduction of the Workabout Pro. The only interests in Symbian Psion Plc. had left were sentimental and financial. I readily accept that Psion could have earned dividends on its investment in Symbian Ltd. Money Psion can do something with when it has plans for new Psion companies developing new products and services. Question is, whether these dividends are sufficient for Psion Plc. to do that. It also means that Psion remains a partner in a joint venture (in the form of a limited company), meaning that it has to supply its share when it's decided that Symbian needs an additional cash injection. It doesn't make that much sense to remain a Symbian partner when your primary interest, Symbian OS based products, has gone. And from a purely investment point of view, there are much better options than having a substantial amount invested on one card. And a partnership in a joint-venture at that.
<< ... it could even be so that all the boardroom and supervisory committee politics are in fact underpinning rather than jeopardising its long term stability >>
For as long as it goes as there three ways in which each and every joint-venture ends. The first is that one partner buys the other partners out and becomes sole owner. The second way is that the joint-venture is turned into an independent company. Either by the management buying out all partners or that the partners bring the joint-venture to the stock exchange. The third one is that the joint-venture is broken up.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 1 Sep 2004 22:53:13 +0000
From: Jack
Subject: Re winmail.dat?
To: Owen H. Morgan
Hi Owen,
> When I get e-mails from WindoZe users, there is often an attachment
> called Winmail.dat. Could someone please tell me what this is and more
> importantly, what settings should be altered on the WindoZe box to stop
> it sending this? I know it's nothing nasty, but as far as I can see,
> it's just a waste of space and bandwidth...
Re
Yes it's the nasty MSOE sending RTF
You could use winmail1.02 from:
http://www.psionplace.com/software/series5/WinMail-2000-08-08-psion-series5.htmlor see (for windont as well as for epoc):
http://www.biblet.freeserve.co.uk/
to decode
Have a nice day
Jack
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Date: 2 Sep 2004 00:37:33 +0000
From: Jack
Subject: Re Revo -Open Case
: Manuel Campos Galva
<<< is there anything such as a guide to open Revo's>>>
Ye
It is suprisingly
simple
http://www.portal-pda.com/guides/insiderevo/insiderevo.html Jack
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Date: 2 Sep 2004 06:27:46 +0000
From: "Francisco Pardo"
Subject: PSION 5MX und Sony Ericcosn K700
Does any one have experience connecting die PSION 5mx with a Sony Ericcson K700
Thnaks and Regards
Francisco Pardo
Goldackerstrasse 11a
8500 Frau
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