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The Digest    Wed, 22 Dec 2004    Volume 02  :  Number 657
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Sent to: 770 subscribers

In today's The Digest 25 messages
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- Data program for Nokia 9500

- Re: Proposed system for Digest

- Re: John Boyce

- Content of the Digest, Proposed system for Digest,

- Smartmovie

- Huge CF Cards

- Dumbing Down

- More boring prose about c********p - skip it if you want.

- S60/for Rolf

- P910 tips & tricks

- Re 5mx replacement

- Re: CF-Card 8GB, Blackberry, Proposed system for Digest

- 5mx replacement

- Re: lost&found

- Re: 5mx replacement

- Re: Spelling Dictionaries; J. Boyce (2 Itamar)

- Re: Large CF cards.

- Psion Replacement

- Re: Formating Disks

- Excel Conversion

- Re: 5mx replacement

- Re: Proposed system for Digest / spam taps

- French Geography Problem

- Explanation for Itamar and Metadigest Principles

- Nokia 9300 Communicator


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 12:50:07 +0100
From: Dick Chatjaval <address truncated>
Subject: Data program for Nokia 9500



Hello,
Would anyone using the Nokia 9210 or 9500 know of a good database program similar to Data? Many thanks.
Best regards,
Dick Chatjaval


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 13:39:47 +0100
From: Rolf Vonau <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Proposed system for Digest



Reference is made to the mail in the The Digest V1 # 656 (6) : Eric Lindsay <address truncated> wrote at 20 Dec 2004 08:25:01 (> ):
> because of increased spam over the past few years.
...
> Under the current Digest system, I can't use an
> alias with the Digest, because it requires a real
> email address.
> I plan to make my email address
> for all lists into a "throw away" address

Hi Eric,
I think you should not be worry concerning our digest. As you know, the archive version of TheDigest do _not_ contain any addresses at all.
So there is no reason often to change your address, at least for TheDigest.

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Best Regards

Rolf


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 14:00:01 +0100
From: Nicole Carbonara <address truncated>
Subject: Re: John Boyce



To Itamar

>> Of course we remember John. He was (still alive !) one of the main operators in the time of the Compuserve Psion forum and co-author of the program to follow that forum on a Psion, gosh I forgot the other guys's name (American) and the name of the application. Ah, it was Dennis something <<


It was Dennis J. Lefebvre and the applic was ReadCis.

John wrote lots of software indeed but, AFAIK, was NOT co-author of ReadCis. ReadCis was conceived, written and very efficiently maintained by Dennis Lefebvre alone.

Nicole


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 14:37:42 +0100
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Content of the Digest, Proposed system for Digest,



Answer to: Rolf Brunsting

Re.: Content of the Digest - Thanks for your message. First of all I would like to remark that with a fully automatic system using public servers there would certainly be no way to stop messages, whether before or in the middle of a discussion. Maybe the fact we do not have such a system kept and keeps this digest reasonably clear of the typical problems most forums and digests are coping with ?
Your idea is not bad, but it makes one assumption which is that the operator reads each and every message before sending out the digest which is not always the case. In general, I don't read all the messages and just glance over them. Secondly, I can't really remember the last time we censored anything in the digest and while I appreciate the concern I think it has been quiet and friendly over the last year or more. However, point taken and we will discuss it amongst the team members.
By the way, we once tried to get the subscribers to vote on an issue and the response was very small. In the end, it is only the few active subscribers that will react to a request to vote while the majority will stay silent. Also, I would prefer not to get into voting as any member can than come with suggestions and request a vote. There exist many forums, websites etc. about all kinds of things but does any of these give a voting right ?  Don't think so.
The "thought for the day" issue is for me a non-issue as said earlier. Someone doesn't like it, don't read it, and as said I personally don't.

Answer to: Eric Lindsay

Re.: Proposed system for Digest - Again, no changes of system are planned for the digest. The digest is based on being sent to the email address of the sender. As long as you send us the new email address each month with a "subscribe" message and "unsubscribe" for the old one there would be no problem whatsoever. Furthermore, as the database of the digest is not on a public server but kept on the Psion of the operator I don't think the digst can be a source of SPAM, another reason to keep matters the way they are.

Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 14:37:43 +0100
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Smartmovie



I downloaded this program which enables the Symbian user (UIQ as well as others) to reduce the size of full length films on a PC from 600 to 700 Mb to around 130 Mb and play these films on your phone. It comes with two parts, a PC based conversion program and a player for the phone.

After some initial problems which LonelyCatgames solved swiftly I succeeded in converting a film which took something like 40 minutes or so. I copied the converted file to the phone which took over 2 hours. I did this via a CD as I have my cable contact only at work.

The program works great, on the UIQ phone you set it to view in landscape mode and the full screen is filled with the film. The sound is very reasonable as well, certainly when using the earphones. Last week I purchased an (expensive !) 512 Mb card so I can easily have 3 films installed on the card, great when traveling by plane / train on routes where there is no film shown.

This program will convert .AVI and other video files from your PC. It does however NOT convert DVD's, for that you need a different program which I might have a look at in the near future.

Link to the program is ww.LonelyCatgames.com (I have no link to the Company).

Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 15:32:30 +0100
From: Phil Aypee <address truncated>
Subject: Huge CF Cards



Hi Folks,

Bernard (Hill), though it's not a problem I'm likely to face could a huge CF be formatted in another machine but be readable/writeable by a Psion?

Happy days,
Phil.

"Beware of altruism.
It is based on self-deception, the root of all evil."v

http://www.philaypee.co.uk


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 15:32:35 +0100
From: Phil Aypee <address truncated>
Subject: Dumbing Down



Hi Folks,

Rolf (Brunsting), like Steve I feel I am capable of deciding which facilities I want to use. In this context "dumbing-down" seems to mean *unnecessarily* reducing facilities. I think "personal" is used to mean "your own" but could equally be interpreted as "capable of being personalised".

Since the facilities Steve refers to *were* there and removed, presumably to "dumb-down" the application, his comment (complaint?) seems reasonable. If they weren't there and weren't added I think it would probably be unreasonable. In fact I agree with Steve and I certainly don't use a PIM "the Steve Litchfield way".

Happy days,
Phil.

"Fate protects fools,
little children,
and ships named Enterprise."

http://www.philaypee.co.uk


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 15:32:37 +0100
From: Phil Aypee <address truncated>
Subject: More boring prose about c********p - skip it if you want.



Hi Folks,

Rolf (Brunsting), I know you didn't say the Digest team proposed censoring the Digest.

But you have clearly implied that they did actually censor it - I quote: "The Digest Team steps in and closes the discussion." I don't recall this ever happening. There have been a couple of *requests* for moderation only.

You opine that part of Robert A. Heinlein's comment
"Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat,
populist, fascist, liberal, conservative and so forth - are
never basic criteria. The human race divides politically
into those who want people to be controlled and those who
have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from
the highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest
number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious
and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable
neighbours than the other sort."
is fundamentally flawed.

I disagree.

I don't like censorship because it means that someone else decides what I should be allowed to read - *allowed*. I don't like being controlled though neither Mr Heinlein nor I said we wanted the uncontrolled society you seem to think we want. For that you should read A. E. van Vogt's "Null-A" books. But we don't want our society controlled by people who *want* to control others. We want controlling rules applied reluctantly, very reluctantly, something I agree with.

Oddly all we want is as much freedom as possible - for all, not just us.

And, Rolf, your proposal to censor the Digest has dangerous sides to it.
1) How do you differentiate between "personal attacks" and honest, if strong, disagreement. You state things plonkingly, as if they're indisputable facts rather than your opinion. To some, unfamiliar with your style, that may appear arrogant and aggressive. To others, like me, it seems fairly reasonable - I realise that you honestly believe you're right and that English isn't your first language.
2) Who do you suggest decides what should be censored? I don't suppose it would be me as I wouldn't actually censor anything. Would it be you? Antony? Itamar? Steve?
s
It can't be democratically decided by a vote as we, the Anti-Censorship brigade (are we really a military unit?), won't have an effective vote - obviously there won't be an option for no censorship. Anyway the Digest isn't a democracy.

But if you really want a censored newsletter restricted to matters SIBO/EPOC/Symbian (or whatever) then why not start one? Why do you want to inflict censorship on this Digest? There is certainly Yahoo if you'd rather not set up the machinery yourself.

The Digest team are indeed reluctant to censor this Digest, very reluctant.
Good luck to 'em.

Merry Crimble!
Phil.

"Those who would give up essential liberty
to purchase a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."

http://www.philaypee.co.


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 15:52:00 +0100
From: Steve Litchfield <address truncated>
Subject: S60/for Rolf



From Rolf's reply to me:

>>miss it when the function isn't there. And what they consider to be critical can be something you don't need or can do without.

Notes on entries are important to everybody. Think of the average user. They'll have loads of stuff in Outlook and I'll bet that they all have at least one entry in Contacts, Calendar or Tasks with text in the Notes field. Now tell them that this won't get synced across and they'll be both surprised and angry that noone told them.

>>question, who can explain why it's critical to him/her. We'd end up with a monster of a smartphone with a monster price to match.

No, I'm not asking much. We were all putting in extra information in address book records in 1993 on the Psion Series 3, for goodness sake.
This isn't rocket science!

>>You're contradicting yourself as people who half know what they're doing aren't considered (very) clever. While you don't think that the average user of a Series 60 based smartphone is stupid.

OK. So I do think they're stupid. 8-) Actually, 99% of S60 smartphone users probably don't even realise they CAN sync with Outlook. They just
use it as a 'kewl' phone. 8-(

>>effectively saying is that there's only one way to use a PIM and that's the Steve Litchfield way.

No, I'm saying that there's a core set of features that HAS to be present for a PIM system to be considered complete. Again, the Series 3 could do this, so I'm rather aghast that a Nokia 7610, twelve years later, can't even come close.

>>based on a personal mixture of irritation and disappointment that the N-Gage proved to be the wrong smartphone for you.

No, I only tried the N-Gage so that I could find out about its limitations and then get round them (if possible), writing it all up for the various magazines. At no stage did I use the N-Gage as my own 'only' handheld. And I get all this stuff loaned for free, of course (I have to give it back!). So there's no question of being irritated or disappointed for myself. I have both emotions, but feel them for the whole user community who are being somewhat short-changed.

____________________________________________________________________
Steve Litchfield, 3-Lib, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/
Software and features for Psion/Symbian handhelds and smartphones
Also PocketInfo, useful files - http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/pocketinfo Journalism: sub-editor and/or senior contributor to:
Palmtop User - http://www.palmtop.co.uk/
PDA Essentials - http://www.paragon.co.uk/mags/pdaessentials.html
PC Basics - http://www.paragon.co.uk/mags/pcbasics.html
Reviews editor, AllAboutSymbian - http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 16:43:18 +0100
From: Arabbitte <address truncated>
Subject: P910 tips & tricks



Hi,

I've come across the following on my travels.
1)Cut & Paste: In all text entry fields, if there is no edit menu, click on the keyboard icon and then click on the drop down - where there are the same copy/paste options in the edit menu.
2) Inadvertent switch off: Switch the phone to prompt you when switched on with a choice of phone on or flight mode (this is the default setting). Then when you go to switch the phone off, it prompts you about this feature before powering down - exit out of this to cancel the switch off.
3) The is a hidden Service menu on the P910. To access it, close the flip, ensure there are no flip-closed apps running (i.e. musicplayer) and unlock the screen. Then enter the following sequence:
Scroll up (only 1 step)
Press *
Scroll down (1 step)
Scroll down (1 step)
Press *
Scroll down (1 step)
Press *
It is important that the scrolling is one step (or click) only. This menu gives you access to phone information, diagnostic routines and a disk format facility. The diagnostic routines are harmless (but handy!) but needless to say caution is advised before using the format ... This facility is also very useful if your P910 hangs at bootup due to some software glitch and cannot be recovered - to access the menu when a phone is in this state, take out the sim, switch on the phone and when you get the "insert sim" message, access the hidden menu with the jog dial as above and then you will get the option to format internal disk. You can then restore from last backup (if it exists ;-))

Note: None of the above were discovered my myself but as I feel they should be of interest to all UIQ owners out there, I'm doing my "community duty" by sharing them. Enjoy!

All the best
Alan Rabbitte
Dublin, Ireland


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 16:44:42 +0100
From: M. Garrett <address truncated>
Subject: Re 5mx replacement



> From: Moshe Nahir <address truncated>
> Subject: 5mx replacement

> About two weeks ago one of the Digesteers mentioned a new, > soon-to-be-released PDA that could perhaps be a replacement for the > 5mx, thought the OS is Windows XP. I checked the link and at least > supuerficially the PDA looked really impressive. Unfortunately I lost the link. > I wonder if the person who mentioned it, or someone else for that matter,
> could give it to us again. Also, I would be VERY interested to hear what
> others think about it. It would be really good to have a serious option once > our 5MXs go the way of all flesh.

I did'nt see the original posting regarding this, but you might like to check out two new devices which use XP as their OS and both have small form factors.

The FlipStart (used to be called Vulcan) details and pdf spec sheets are
at:-
www.flipstartpc.com

It has a 1 GHz processor, 20 GB hard drive and 256MB memory as standard. It also contains all the connectivity you would expect from a traditional
notebook or desktop. Battery life is up to 6 hours and the whole unit weighs less than 400g.

And the OQO details are at:-
www.oqo.com

Only 450g this tiny device packs in the functionality in that it runs the full version of Windows XP and provides the always on feel of a PDA. A full QWERTY keyboard, coupled with a 5.6" screen with a resolution of 1024x600, 30GB of hard drive storage and battery life measured in days, not hours could make
this the ultimate portable computer.

Needless to say they are both horrendously expensive ........ but if Father Christmas was to drop one down my chimney, well maybe I could be tempted away from my netBook!

Regards,
Malcolm (In snowy Darlington, UK)


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 18:37:18 +0100
From: Chris S Handley
Subject: Re: CF-Card 8GB, Blackberry, Proposed system for Digest



Subject: CF-Card 8GB
Bernard Hill wrote:
>> SanDisk announced that the 8GB and 4GB TypeI CF-Cards are
>> already available.
>> They have write speed of 9MB/s!
>> Sorry I didn't have a price :(
>> Works our lovely S5mx properly with this huge space?
>
> Very unlikely.

Thats not quite true.  If you partition the CF disk into four 2GB regions, then (apparently) EPOC will see four disks (with four different disk letter).

I am not are of any EPOC software to do the job, so you'll need a Windows PC (or similar) with appropriate software.  I recommend the free DOS-based Ranish Disk Partition Manager, although commercial offerings may be much easier to use.

As always, partition/formatting should be done with great care, and only if you know what you are doing!  The worst case would be that you partition the wrong disk, say your Windows HD, and loose all your computer data... :(  Of course, if you have already backed-up everything (as every computer should be!) then this won't be a complete disaster.
---
Chris Handley

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Subject: RE: Blackberry
Neil Thompson wrote:
> I have been a BlackBerry user for over six months now and
> just love it. I have a 7230

> The battery life is just phenomenal - if you don't use the
> phone features I can go well over a week without the need to
> recharge.

Nothing personal Neil, but to me this seems a sad inditement (sp?) of the current market, that one week of battery life is considered "phenomenal".  I can almost hear the Psion 3mxs turning in their grave!  ;)

BTW, does anyone know what the *actual* battery life of a Nokia 9500 is? (rather than the optimistic numbers quoted by the manufacturer)
---
Chris Handley

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Subject: Proposed system for Digest
Eric Lindsay wrote:
> Under the current Digest system, I can't use an alias with
> the Digest, because it requires a real email address.

Actually you can, because I already do!  The Digest team allow you to specify two email addresses, so simply have your alias as the second one.


> I plan to make my email address for all lists into a "throw away"
> address (like dec2004) that will change each month.

I suggest that you use a less obvious system, since it would be trivial for spammers to write a fragment of code to spot the pattern in your address, and to then guess your current address.  Perhaps you could use the month name, followed by a random number of 2 or 3 digits?  Or if a random number is too much of a pain to remember, then why not use the year number (e.g. "04") added to the month number (e.g. "12") in some way (e.g. "52").

BTW, if you own your own domain name, then (generally speaking) you can have as many addresses as your want.  I haven't gone this route yet, since the provider I use has a (small!) charge for actually forwarding the emails.
---
Chris Handley


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 18:56:36 +0100
From: Rody Koops <address truncated>
Subject: 5mx replacement



Moshe,

>About two weeks ago one of the Digesteers mentioned a new, >soon-to-be-released PDA that could perhaps be a replacement for the 5mx, >thought the OS is Windows XP. I checked the link and at least supuerficially
>the PDA looked really impressive. Unfortunately I lost the link.

The links was for the Vulcan Flipstart: www.flipstartpc.com

Cheers Rody


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 19:50:33 +0100
From: Martin Guthrie <address truncated>
Subject: Re: lost&found



Hi Jack,

> The older psionists may emotionally remember J. Boyce's
> sober pages ... http://www.jbsoft.org/whatsnew.htm states:
> "28/12/03 I shall close down this site during 2004, please
> remove any links you have."
>
> It could be time for securing his nice pieces of soft in some
> repository elsewhere (hello! Martin).

Noted (and thanks for the large zip file BTW!).  Actually, I'd already spotted this myself some time ago and taken a copy of everything - but your emails spurred me into some action.  I've sent John an email to see if he'd be prepared to let me host his s/w if/when he shuts his site down.  Will advise when I get a response.

Best regards,
Martin Guthrie
---------
www.pscience5.net
www.freepoc.org
www.foxpop.co.uk


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 21:11:17 +0100
From: Mike Dyer <address truncated>
Subject: Re: 5mx replacement




>Date: 17 Dec 2004 15:07:53 +0100
>From: Moshe Nahir <address truncated> >Subject: 5mx replacement
>
>About two weeks ago one of the Digesteers mentioned a new, >soon-to-be-released PDA that could perhaps be a replacement for the 5mx, >thought the OS is Windows XP.

Well this looks nice...

http://www.flipstartpc.com/

Regards,
Mike Dyer.


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Date: 20 Dec 2004 23:51:30 +0100
From: Jack <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Spelling Dictionaries; J. Boyce (2 Itamar)



--
-1 To: Itamar, answering to: Victor Warner:
>>>>...highlight the text to be checked and run the spellchecker and repeat that for different parts of the same WORD file. Theoretically you should be able to write macro's to do this for you but it might need some advanced knowledge of macros....<<<<.

Re
No advanced knowledge required  ;-]  Switchdico macro is already there (But not so easy as SpellX app from Huub's site):
http://www.pscience5.net/macrolist.htm
NB TheLink from Neuon.com/ does a good job pasting synonyms.

-2 To: Itamar who....
>>>....remember John. He was (still alive !) one of the main operators in the time of the Compuserve Psion forum and co-author of the program to follow that forum on a Psion, gosh I forgot the other guys's name (American) and the name of the application......<<<<<

Re:
Yes! that made me emotionally recollect GO PSION with his ReadCis and WebCis on a 3a + the 14400b modem!

Jack
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Date: 21 Dec 2004 01:20:36 +0100
From: Alan Morris <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Large CF cards.



Bernard Hill <address truncated> wrote:-

> Your 5mx only formats in FAT16 (afaik) so any CF card over
> 2Gb would only be seen as a 2Gb card in a 5mx (and I suspect
> P7 and netBook too).

I've been using an IBM 1Gb CF Type II hard drive with my nB and 7 without any problems.  It also works in my card reader (WinXP) and Canon G2 digital camera.  I understand that they also work in my Garmin 2610 GPS receiver, but it's not big enough for my use, so not tested.

I've just bought from Clove a new 5mxPRO and a Lexar 2Gb Type I, for use in my 2610 to replace the 256Mb that it came with.

I've tested the 2Gb in the 5mxPRO, formatted as received and surprisingly it was not recognised by the 5mxPRO.  From details on Colve's website where I purchased both in a single order, I expected them to work together.

The 2Gb CF works in the nB and 7 and as I don't want to use it in a 5mx, I've not spent any time reformatting it.

--
Alan R Morris, G4ENS.
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.
Using a Psion netBook & Nokia 6210e.


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Date: 21 Dec 2004 04:11:44 +0100
From: g y reyes <address truncated>
Subject: Psion Replacement



Date: 17 Dec 2004 15:07:53 +0100
From: Moshe Nahir <address truncated>
Subject: 5mx replacement


Gentlemen,

A bit over a year ago, my Psion conked out on me and I found it too expensive to send overseas for repair.

My substitute, as inadequate as it was, was a Palm OS device which served basic Organizer functions.  I missed the many user-friendly software of Epoc and the keyboard but liked the fits-in-your-pocket size of the Palm device and the colored screen.

Then my Palm started going nuts on me recently so I went to a basic iPaq rz1710 Pocket PC with Windows Mobile 2003SE, the latest OS version.

It is also fits-in-your-pocket size, which I love.  The colored screen is of truly excellent resolution which displays photos from my Nikon digital camera SD memory card.

Synchronizing with Outlook was very good after I got over the initial tweaking of the software and setup.

Connecting to the Internet for email and managing SMS with the IrDA of a Nokia 6610 was great - again, after getting over the initial difficulties of setting up the software.  But connecting through GPRS was a breeze - the software recognized my handset and took care of configuring the settings for GPRS after identifying my telecom carrier.

File management is very good - similar to a desktop or the Psion.  There is even a special memory storage area on the iPaq where you can put data that won't be lost even if your battery goes totally dead.

But, I again miss the keyboard of the Psion and the relative trouble-free nature of installing and using Epoc-based software.  I never had the setup problems with the Psions that I have with the iPaq.

But, then again, if there is no Psion anymore, where can we go.

Gary


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Date: 21 Dec 2004 12:09:08 +0100
From: Michael Robins <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Formating Disks



Just for Info - to add to what Bernard said,
I believe Win XP can format FAT32 to >127Gb - if the appropriate Window registry entry is 'fixed'. (I know this because I have just done it on my new Win XP Pro machine).
- (just put together a nice Multimedia 'home entertainment system' but have gone Window route rather Linus because of the hardware I have used.)

Wishing you all a happy Christmas and
All the best to ALL contributors (& lurkers like myself)
- special thanks to the Digest moderators -who are  **STARS**
- and thanks to Martin Guthrie and Steve Litchfield for their support to EPOC! and her 'grandchildren'


Mike Robins

> From: Bernard Hill <address truncated>
> Subject: Re: The Digest V1 # 655 (7)
>
> When DOS/Windows-formatting floppy disks, hard drives and CF cards there are 4 different formats available. These are the limits on sizes: >
> FAT12 - 16Mb. Was almost always used on floppy disks only.
> FAT16 - 2Gb or 4Gb*
> FAT32 - 32Gb or 128Gb or 2Tb**
> NTFS - 16Tb or 16Eb***
>
> [Units used here: 1Mb=1024Kb; 1Gb=1024Mb; 1Tb=1024Gb; 1Eb=1024Tb]
>
> Your 5mx only formats in FAT16 (afaik) so any CF card over 2Gb would only be seen as a 2Gb card in a 5mx (and I suspect P7 and netBook too).
> The same problem exists with digital cameras - only the very latest models can handle FAT32, the others will only see 2Gb available on large CF cards. > *This limitation or 2Gb or 4Gb depends on the OS you are reading it with. For instance Windows 2000 and XT are different. So we can't be definite about the 5mx but my bet is on 2Gb at most. And it may be even less although my 5mx reads my 1Gb CF cards fine. > ** these also depend on the OS. Win XP Pro can format to 32Gb, Win 98 can *read* to 128Gb, it is possible to write an OS which can read to 2Tb but no-one's done it yet.
> *** Win XP can only go to 16Tb, but 16Eb is theoretically possible. It may be some time before we see 16Eb CF cards. That's quite a lot.


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Date: 21 Dec 2004 22:34:27 +0100
From: Keith Giles <address truncated>
Subject: Excel Conversion



I'm working on producing RoutePlanner overlays for each county showing the locations of all the CityMaps .sis files (what I call "master" maps, in conjunction with a spreadsheet fine listing the country's cities alphabetically and showing it's "master" city.

I have MS Office Pro 2003. I've had problems trying to convert the Excel files into Sheet files. Should I first save the Excel file in an earlier version? If so, which is the best for PsiWin? The options I have are: 5.0/95; 97-2003 & 5/95; 4; 3; 2.1. I'd like to have both Excel files and Sheet files for those who don't or can't use Excel.

When I'm through (another week or so) I'll send all the files to Martin Guthrie for his web site and post a notice here that they'll be available for anyone to download. The overlays will be for Austria, Benelux, France, Germany, Italy, Scandanavia-Denmark, Spain-Portugal, and Switzerland. David Steer has already given Martin the UK overlay.

Happy Cycling,
Keith
Sunnyvale, CA
http://ohsix827.home.comcast.net

Thought For The Day: Now take the word "indolence". It makes laziness seem classy.


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Date: 21 Dec 2004 22:49:03 +0100
From: Alan Morris <address truncated>
Subject: Re: 5mx replacement



Moshe Nahir <address truncated> wrote:-

> About two weeks ago one of the Digesteers mentioned a new,
> soon-to-be-released PDA that could perhaps be a replacement
> for the 5mx, thought the OS is Windows XP.

Don't myself see how any Windows box could replace a 5mx.

> Also, I would be VERY interested to hear what others think
> about it. It would be really good to have a serious option
> once our 5MXs go the way of all flesh.

My solution has been to buy from Clove another 5mx, this time a 5mxPRO - my first.  So I've still got my original 5mx in use, a spare 5mx and a spare 5mxPRO.  I also regularly use a 3mx, Revo+, 7 and this nB.

Having all these, apart from the 3mx, able to exchange data via IR, is ideal so I can use the best format for every situation.  The 3mx is only now used for Agenda, so no need to exchange data with the others.

I've also recently bought a Fujitsu-Siemens LOOX-720 to display digital pictures, which is the only thing I can't do on a Psion.  Now if it's VGA screen was the same size as the 7 & nB, that would be ideal, but it's only the size of half a 5mx screen.

My Nokia 6210e is now getting old, so a replacement might be needed soon.  I only want to talk on it and use it's IR connected modem with my Psions, but finding a replacement for that is now becoming difficult.

None of the new Symbian phones appeal to me as their computer facilities are inadequate compared to my EPOC R5 Psions.

--
Alan R Morris, G4ENS.
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.
Using a Psion netBook & Nokia 6210e.

>
> Moshe Nahir
> Winnipeg, Canada
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Date: 21 Dec 2004 22:49:51 +0100
From: Alan Morris <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Proposed system for Digest / spam taps

Eric Lindsay <address truncated> wrote:-

> I have been looking at changing my address for receipt of The
> Digest (and many other lists) because of increased spam over
> the past few years.

I don't think that postings to this Digest generates spam, but as you say it's difficult to tell.

> One additional precaution I could take is to discover the
> source of spam is to provide a different mailing address for
> every list I join.

Not sure how knowing where the spammers get your address would help.

> I do however have plenty of aliases, addresses that will
> receive email, but not send it.

> I plan to make my email address for all lists into a "throw
> away" address (like dec2004) that will change each month.

The problem with this is that folk wont be able to contact you after you change every address.  The admin that you would need to do to change every month would be unworkable for most folk.

> If you are making major changes to the Digest, can I request
> that consideration be given to the increased efforts members
> may be making to reduce their exposure to spam?

You can ask for your address to be removed from your postings, which I've never seen on any other list or digest.

I also receive this Digest by two addresses (originally setup as one ISP was truncating most mails received),  but only ever post with the same one.  The other one was my prime address some time ago, but I stopped using it when the ISP stopped it working with Psions.  This has now been corrected.

Now recently this older address has been used again to receive Yahoo lists, but never to send any.  It now receives about 40 spam e-mails a day, so the only obvious cause is that Yahoo has allowed that address to be accessed from their internal data of they have sold that data.

That other ISP is Computer Weekly and before the company that provided it's internet facilities went bust, I was able to dial-up on another number and change e-mail addresses.  This is no longer available. That would have been an answer to your "throw away" addresses.

Freeserve has multiple addressers that are in fact only a single address, so it's possible to setup on my Psions any number of addresses to send with, but all incoming arrives on the first address to be used.

This could provide the outgoing address to identity when the 'leak' occurred, but would be too time consuming to setup on my Psions.

The other problem is that folk you exchange e-mails with that use M$ and get a virus will use your address to send virus laden e-mails and you then get bounced ISP messages for e-mails you did not send.

Until world governments and all ISPs improve the e-mail system it will just get worse.

In fact my experience and that of folk I talk to, is that sending e-mails to commercial companies will very soon stop as being a complete waste of time.  Reverting to paper via the postman or blowing the dust of the old fax machine is not that far away in time.

But I would love to hear of a workable solution that would work on Psions.

--
Alan R Morris, G4ENS.
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.
Using a Psion netBook & Nokia 6210e.


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Date: 22 Dec 2004 05:08:59 +0100
From: Keith Giles <address truncated>
Subject: French Geography Problem



In trying to develop a CityMap overlay for France, I've come across a problem which some Frenchman can probably solve for me. When I do a Find in RoutePlanner for a few of the CityMaps "master" cities, there are some cases of multiple listings. Here are the names followed by a couple of the alphabecial names which are in the vicinity. My atlas hasn't been of help in these cases.

1. Chalais (Angoulême), Charlais (Châtellerault), Charlais (Confolens), Charlais (le Blanc): Angeduc, Aubeville, Aubterre-sur-Dronne.

2. Flers (Argentan), Flers (Arras), Flers (Péronne): Angoville, Athis-de-L-Orne, Aunay-Sur-Odon.

3. Lavaur (Castres), Lavaur) Sarlat-la-Canéda): Avessé, Aguts, Ambres.

4. Neuvic (Périgueux), Neuvic (Ussel): Antiges, Apchon, Auzanges.

5. Quissac (Figeac), Quissac (leVigan): Aguzan, Aspères, Aujargues.

6. Vernon (Évreux), Vernon (Largentière), Vernon (Orléans), Vernon (Poitiers): Aigleville, Amenucourt, Austrebos.

7. Vinay (Épernay), Vinay (Grenoble): L'Albenc, Andrévière, Arêtes.

8. Vitré (Laval), Vitré (Niort), Vitré (Rennes): Argentré-du-Plessis, Audray.

I'd be most grateful if someone could tell me which of the cities I should use in each case.

Happy Cycling,
Keith
Sunnyvale, CA
http://ohsix827.home.comcast.net


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Date: 22 Dec 2004 12:49:48 +0100
From: Grant Mearns <address truncated>
Subject: Explanation for Itamar and Metadigest Principles



Reply to Itamar Engelsman:

> I would be very interested to
> hear more how exactly you use
> your P910 and how you
> replaced the functions of your
> nB with it. Please expand.

I use my P910 in a way that I believe is sensible given the obvious limitations and intended uses for such a device. My sole intention for purchasing such a smartphone was to replace the large form factor of my netBook with something that is truly pocketable, yet powerful enough to perform the functions that I require from it.

The main exercise that I actioned to make the transition from a netBook to a P910 a personal success was:

- Completely rethink what I need to do on a short and long term basis.

- Work out an efficient way of operating in order to move forward.

- Apply my desired workflow/processes to the information available about all the 'pocketable' devices currently on sale.

From there I was able to make an informed decision in relation to my purchase.

I chose to remove myself from the 'Psion' way of doing things. This entailed rebuilding my personal organisation methods and adapting them to the 'best fit' device.

I suspect the information that you are looking for is a pragmatic, technical guide of how to make the P910 as 'Psion like' as possible. I'm afraid I don't have an answer for that...

In summary, I am extremely happy with my new way of working, the performance and functionality of the P910, and the removal of Psion related clutter that had built up in my life.

Desirable functionality has been lost, but all of the pros outweigh the cons in my case.

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The concept of metadigest:

It was interesting to notice just how many posts there were in the last issue of the digest discussing the digest itself. A digest about a digest. In essence a metadigest. Perhaps a second, more philosophical, issue is what participants want and need...

Kind regards

Grant Mearns


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Date: 22 Dec 2004 19:48:13 +0100
From: Mike Dyer <address truncated>
Subject: Nokia 9300 Communicator



availiable to pre order from Expansys
for £484.95p

Regards,
Mike Dyer.


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