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The Digest Tue, 18 Jan 2005 Volume 02 : Number 679
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In today's The Digest 11 messages
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- Re: new Email Reply (indenting) macro
- OT: Word Processor for Windows
- Re: (slightly OT) Word Processor
Date: 17 Jan 2005 20:19:18 +0000
From: Martin Guthrie <address truncated>
Subject: Re: CF Cards
Reply to: Larch <address truncated>
Subject: CF Cards
Hi Larch,
> Does anyone have any info on how many files (avail slots) one
> can have in the root of a CF card? I haven't seen anything
> about this but I am guessing it will be like my LS120
> floppies which have a limit on the number of files the root
> directory can hold. To get round this a directory has to be
> created and this permits storage of as many files as capacity
> will allow. Is the maximum number of files dependent on the
> capacity of the CF card (sliding scale) or is it the same
> irrespective of the size of the card? Larch<address truncated>BR>
Have a look at the page on my website about Compact Flash cards: http://www.pscience5.net/compactflash.htm. The number of root entries is a formatting option.
Best regards,
Martin Guthrie
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Date: 17 Jan 2005 23:13:15 +0000
From: Alan Morris <address truncated>
Subject: Re: new Email Reply (indenting) macro
Thanks Chris for your reply.
I've now installed the new version and done a bit of editing, including adding my own '-' after your 'wrote:' to make it the same as I've used for some time.
I've been using three macros to make a reply. First Email_Indent then, after placing the cursor at the end of the name/address line a small macro to add 'wrote:- [CR/LF + LF]'. Then a ClipText to add my SIG.
I'll probably add an extra LF later and remove the time and +0000 after the date.
In my e-mail of 14 Jan at the end of the last Digest I said:-
>>>>>
Now an intelligent reading/reply program, would remove all '> ' and reformat quoted lines, so that they wont wrap
<<<<<
Well yours does this of course on text that has already been passed through your macro before. This is because the line length is short, so the list software does not insert a CR/LR. But text that has been wrapped to two lines with a CR/LR inserted by the list software, does not get handled in such a tidy way.
Now to show I'm using your new macro.
On 4 Jan 2005 08:32:03 +0000, Chris S Handley wrote:-
> Alan Morris wrote:
>> I've been using Chris Handley's Email_Indent.opo (now
>> version 17-01-2004) for a long time, as it's easy and
>> quick to use.
>
>> I would like to be able to just highlite (<Shift> +
>> cursor down) part of the text at times, as I like to
>> insert my reply comments between quoted text, which I
>> edit by replacing some words by .... to make for better
>> reading.
>
> I'm not quite sure what you mean, but the new version of
> my macro will indent ONLY the highlighted text - if you
> have actually highlighted some before using it.
I've done a bit of experimenting. I see that your new macro needs the inter message *++ .... ++& to do the cleaver bit with the address etc., which is very good and a time saver.
What I mean is this.
I will go through a long posting that I'm replying to and edit this text so that only sufficient is left to retain the meaning. By having to indent the whole lot in one go required me to edit the whole of the posting before I indented and then got back and insert my comments. This mean a 'double pass' through the text with the need to remember what I'd deleted.
But now with the ability to indent parts at a time, it does what I want. Thanks Chris.
Then you wrote:-
>> But much more important would be the ability to limit the
>> line length of _my_ new text
>
>> When I see my postings, the quoted text is still aligned,
>> but my new text overflows onto a next partial line - very
>> untidy and not so easy to read.
>
>> Could this feature be added by one of the existing
>> programmers?
>
> I think it would be trivial to modify my macro do to this,
> as one would only need to prevent it from putting ">"
> before each line, and hence only use it's word-wrapping
> system.
>
> I can do this and email you it if you want? Probably I'd
> rename the macro as Email_Wrap .
That's not quite what I was referring to. Have a look at the next few lines as seen later in the same Digest (not indented).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>I have transferred the email settings used by the Psion 7 over to the >>Netbook...
>
>How did you perform the latter? You *must* delete the
>c:\system\data\commsdb.dat file on the netBook and type in the settings >manually, you cannot copy it over from a previous EPOC release. This >has to do with the additions to the TCP/IP stack to support network >cards. The file format has changed.
>
<<<<<<<<<<<<<
I hope that this has not been changed by resending.
This text includes '>>' and '>' embedded within the text. Put there by the software handling of the Digest or the software used by it's sender.
This makes reading rather messy, and if re-formated could possibly be made much better.
Another problem is list software converting a quoted line into two lines as this double line example, now 4 lines:-
> this was a single line when sent as a quoted
line but changed
> this is the second original line also changed
to two lines.
I've kept the first part of the split lines shorter than normal to avoid resending problems, but hope you can see what I'm on about.
It's only quoted lines that need the removal of the CR/LF inserted by the list software.
By keeping replay text as long ASCII lines (see my posting to Armin Podtschaske on 14th) will help satisfy Armin.
Having just installed RepEvMail.SIS V-3.33 as well as your new .opo, I've found that without any changes to the REM setup a problem with REM.
I replied (without sending) to two postings but found that one was heavily truncated. Needs more investigation, but Email_Reply.opo appears to run much faster and needs less effort.
For a tidy Psion, I've now edited your .opo as below:-
CONST SIGPATH$ = ":\Macros\Email_Reply\signature.txt" REM Sig path MUST begin with :\
Thanks Chris for all the effort.
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Alan R Morris, G4ENS.
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.
Using a Psion netBook & Nokia 6210e.
Date: 17 Jan 2005 23:13:43 +0000
From: Alan Morris <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Diamond Mako
On 5 Jan 2005 19:45:57 +0000, Chris C. <address truncated> wrote:-
> I just aquired a diamond mako (i'm in the US and it was
> only $40!) What kind of problems can I expect from the
> battery, I read that you can over charge it easily??
I use ChaDis on my Revo+, which gives a warning of over charge.
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Alan R Morris, G4ENS.
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.
Using a Psion netBook & Nokia 6210e.
PS. For Chris. *++ .... ++& was at the end but SIG did not appear this time. It works sometimes but not everytime.
Date: 17 Jan 2005 23:14:17 +0000
From: Alan Morris <address truncated>
Subject: Re: CF Cards
On 6 Jan 2005 17:08:31 +0000, Larch <address truncated> wrote:-
> Does anyone have any info on how many files (avail slots)
> one can have in the root of a CF card? I haven't seen
> anything about this but I am guessing it will be like my
> LS120 floppies which have a limit on the number of files
> the root directory can hold. To get round this a directory
> has to be created and this permits storage of as many
> files as capacity will allow. Is the maximum number of
> files dependent on the capacity of the CF card (sliding
> scale) or is it the same irrespective of the size of the
> card? Larch
I do not know by experience of CF cards, only of ATA drives. I investigated the DOS directory format when M$ introduced long file names to DOS as my programs read directories and needed to be updated.
CF cards are ATA disk drives, so there will be a maximum number of root directory entries possible as this is fixed when the format utility is run. A DOS 8.3 file name will use 1 entry. A 9.3 or 8.4 file name will use 3 entries, for only one more character! Longer names require more entries.
A directory is a special type of file, and like other files can be as long as the free space left on the drive; and automatically expands in size when needed. The maximum number of files is only dependent on disk size. The allocation size (smallest number of bytes allocated to a new file) will have an effect, but is generally not worth worrying about on a Psion. It's a different matter on Windows big hard drives.
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Alan R Morris, G4ENS.
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.
Using a Psion netBook & Nokia 6210e.
Date: 18 Jan 2005 06:21:23 +0000
From: Peter Rand
Subject: OT: Word Processor for Windows
>My mother in law uses Windows 98 and was recently complaining about the complexity and unpleasantness of MS Word. I just wondered if any of you folks knew of a word procesing app for Win98 that looked and behaved more like our old friend EPOC Word, i.e. easy to use, simple interface, but powerful and stable behind the scenes?
Try AbiWord (http://www.abisource.com/).
It's freeware, has a clean and uncluttered interface, and works well with both Psion Word and Palm DOC file formats. It's also a good text editor.
Peter
Date: 18 Jan 2005 09:16:53 +0000
From: Chris S Handley
Subject: Re: (slightly OT) Word Processor
Ealasaid and Simon wrote:
> I just wondered if any of you folks knew of a word procesing
> app for Win98 that looked and behaved more like our old friend
> EPOC Word, i.e. easy to use, simple interface, but powerful
> and stable behind the scenes?
Well, I have always thought that Psion Word had much in common with Wordworth from Digita, for the Amiga operating system. It had very logical menus and an uncluttered interface, so that it seemed quite simple - but it could still do most of the useful things that MS Word did (and sometimes did them better!).
Digita did try porting Wordworth to Windows, but I'm not sure how well that was done (I recall some early reports of instability and limited features), and I'd guess that it hasn't been developed it recent years...
Perhaps if you look around you can find a demo of it, or still find it in stock somewhere at a cheap price. As always, Google is your friend :)
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Chris Handley
Visit the web page email.cshandley.co.uk for my address
Date: 18 Jan 2005 09:16:56 +0000
From: Chris S Handley
Subject: Re: new Email Reply (indenting) macro
Hello Alan,
Since you CCed your Digest post to me, I have done the same for you.
>> I can do this and email you it if you want? Probably I'd
>> rename the macro as Email_Wrap .
>
> That's not quite what I was referring to. Have a look at the
> next few lines as seen later in the same Digest (not
> indented).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>I have transferred the email settings used by the Psion 7 over to the >>Netbook...
>
>How did you perform the latter? You *must* delete the
>c:\system\data\commsdb.dat file on the netBook and type in the settings >manually, you cannot copy it over from a previous EPOC release. This >has to do with the additions to the TCP/IP stack to support network >cards. The file format has changed.
>
<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> I hope that this has not been changed by resending.
>
> This text includes '>>' and '>' embedded within the text.
> Put there by the software handling of the Digest or the
> software used by it's sender.
>
> This makes reading rather messy, and if re-formated could
> possibly be made much better.
This left me puzzled for quite some time, since your example looked *perfectly fine* to me! I found that it only looked wierd if I removed the toolbar, or changed zoom level; so presumably it was written by someone with a very similar Email set-up to me.
Yes, it *would* be possible to detect ">" within text, and remove them, so that rewrapping worked better. But I on-purposely decided to not do this, as it would also cause problems for other uses of ">" that have nothing to do with quoting/indenting. e.g. when discussing HTML tags
In fact, my Email_Reply macro WILL wrap the text you provided perfectly fine, and removed the ">" anyway! So presumably the text still contained some form of Line Feed codes, even if Email was not rendering them correctly. (This may be something to do with codes 06 and 07, both of which my macro handles - perhaps I even supported both for that very reason.)
> Another problem is list software converting a quoted line
> into two lines as this double line example, now 4 lines:-
> this was a single line when sent as a quoted
line but changed
> this is the second original line also changed
to two lines.
> I've kept the first part of the split lines shorter than
> normal to avoid resending problems, but hope you can see what
> I'm on about.
>
> It's only quoted lines that need the removal of the CR/LF
> inserted by the list software.
I'm afraid that it isn't really possible to automatically detect the bad wrapping, without other text sometimes being wrongly wrapped as well. Frankly, the best solution is to prevent the replies being badly wrapped in the first place - either by keeping the original indended lines short (as my macro already does by default), or by other people using different software that doesn't perform bad wrapping in the first place!
> Having just installed RepEvMail.SIS V-3.33 as well as your new .opo
> Email_Reply.opo appears to run much faster and needs less effort.
Thats nice to hear, as I spent considerable effort in designing it to be as fast as possible (which had the up-shot of making my wrapping code quite complex). But OPL isn't the ideal language for heavy text processing, and C++ could do it much much faster still.
> For a tidy Psion, I've now edited your .opo as below:-
> CONST SIGPATH$ = ":\Macros\Email_Reply\signature.txt"
Obviously that will only work if people have kept their Macros folder at the root of their disk (which I did have to assume for the SIS installation of my macro).
Regards,
Chris Handley
Visit the web page email.cshandley.co.uk for my address
Date: 18 Jan 2005 19:31:20 +0000
From: Charles Davies <address truncated>
Subject: RE: Psion 5mx migration
Neil,
Many thanks, all worked fine.
Regards
Charles
>Date: 16 Jan 2005 21:46:14 +0000
>From: Neil Thompson <address truncated>
>Subject: RE: Psion 5mx migration
>
>Charles,
>
>If your contacts are in "Contacts" and you have Outlook (and not Outlook Express) on the desktop then synchronise your contacts via PsiWin. You may need to go to PsiWin properties to set this up. Then connect your IPAQ and setup ActiveSync to synchronise with your IPAQ. To do this you will need to register your IPAQ with ActiveSync rather than making it a "Guest" machine.
>
>I use this method regularly to sync my Orange SPV (Windows Mobile powered) phone and my Revo via my desktop Outlook client. Works a treat.
>
>If you don't have Outlook then I don't know I'm afraid...
>
>Neil Thompson
>www.neilthompson.co.uk/Psion
Date: 18 Jan 2005 20:39:23 +0000
From: Rolf Vonau <address truncated>
Subject: EDU
Hi Psionies,
our subscriber, Kees I.van der Straten <address truncated> found the
Essential Disk Ultilities
at Martin Guthries great site www.pscience5.net/ and informed me, that the EDUs can be downloaded there for free: www.pscience5.net/lost/edu.zip
Thank you, Martin and Kees.
--
BR
Rolf
Date: 18 Jan 2005 20:58:37 +0000
From: Stéphane Sage <address truncated>
Subject: Therbligs in TFTD
Hello all!
Phil (Aypee), could you please tell me what are "therbligs" (couldn't find it in the dictionary): I would very much like to double my lifetime...
Best regards
Stephane (Grenoble, France)
Date: 18 Jan 2005 21:09:36 +0000
From: Stéphane Sage <address truncated>
Subject: Nokia 9xxx and "standard " screen, keyboard...
Hello all!
I have just been able to play a bit with the Nokia 9500 of a friend: how pleasant it must be to have it with you when travelling (everything nicely packed into one single, streamlined box...). But I am also using my 5mx quite often at my office, just like a lap- or desktop PC. DOes anyone know whether there is a possibility of connecting the 9500 (or 9300) to an external VGA screen and/or a desk keyboard (like with the P910) ?
Best regards
Stephane (Grenoble, France)