The Digest Tue, 10 May 2005 Volume02 : Number 740
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- Re: Num Lock off?/5mx Pro Operating System
- CF card partitioning
- Skip this if you want - it's about morality
- Re: SmtpAuth
- Re: 5MX Pro Operating System
- gmail
- Routeplanning on my P910
- Nokia 9500 keyboard
- Copy Anywhere
- Problems connecting a Sony Ericsson F500i phone to myRevo
- Re: Comment
- Re: The Digest V1 # 736 (6)
- Re: Evolution
- Engineering level of the 9500, Comment, Num Lock off ?,5MX Pro Operating System
Date: 8 May 2005 04:06:37 +0000
From: Keith Giles <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Num Lock off?/5mx Pro Operating System
For Studio 70: To disengage Numbers Lock, Ctrl+Shift+NumLock (the Menukey).
For Patrick Warner: Whenever you have to do a hard reset, put the CF cardwith the OS on it into the D drive, turn on the machine, and it'll loadthe system. Once that's done, remove that CF card and keep it in a safeplace in case you need it again.
Happy Cycling,
Keith
Sunnyvale, CA
http://ohsix827.home.comcast.net
Thought For The Day: Remember when TV bloopers were a rare mistake - notthe entire show?
Date: 8 May 2005 10:54:33 +0000
From: Phil Aypee <address truncated>
Subject: CF card partitioning
Hi Folks,
Trygve, when I partitioned my CF card it was under Windoze 98. The Fdisk program would only let me make one primary partition and one extended partition. They are both FAT 12.
Though I've downloaded a couple of partitioning programs I'm loth to try them as they're shareware and I think buying them would be uneconomic. I only want one big CF partitioned and that's far from vital.
Happy days,
Phil.
"Freedom is the handle on the bucket of your soul."
http://www.philaypee.co.uk/index.html
Date: 8 May 2005 10:54:34 +0000
From: Phil Aypee <address truncated>
Subject: Skip this if you want - it's about morality
Hi Folks,
Itamar, the only thing in your reply to me (about copyright) I disagree with is that anything is "clearly immoral". Though there are deeds that I, and apparently you, consider immoral we *might* be wrong, mightn't we?
But to extend my opinion, I still think that copyright law will have to be changed to cope with the ephemeral nature of computer software. It seems odd to me that breach of copyright in Britain ceases to be a (civil) offence 1 day after 70 years have passed. The previous day it was an offence!
I don't see how that can be moral. Where literature is concerned it may be defensible if a little silly - but software? The word I would use is "stupid".
Happy days,
Phil.
"If it can't be expressed in figures,
it is not science; it is opinion."
http://www.philaypee.co.uk/index.html
Date: 9 May 2005 06:15:06 +0000
From: Marcus von Cube <address truncated>
Subject: Re: SmtpAuth
Hi Mark,
> Unable to get SmtpAuth set up properly to send email via > my 7Book EMail app using either GMX, Yahoo, or Tiscali.
Why don't you ask the author? (me) :-)
SmtpAuth has some debugging aids built in to diagnose the situation. The same is true for EPOC EMail.
1. Create a directory C:\LOGS and a subdirectory EMAIL below this directory.
2. Change the line "trace=no" to "trace=yes" in SmtpAuth.ini. Reload the configuration or restart the program.
3. Try to send mail.
4. Use the menu item File->Save Screen to create a dump of the SmtpAuth screen contents.
5. Get the files from C:\LOGS\EMAIL, the screen dump (should be
C:\Documents\SmtpAuthConsole.txt) and your SmtpAuth.ini to your PC, ZIP everything and send it to me.
You can, of course, read the files yourself and try to figure out what was wrong but I'm always glad to help.
If SmtpAuth crashes (goes away without any obvious reason), the Java virtual machine (JVM) might
have crashed. You should then create a dummy file (e. g. with Word) named Console in the directory
C:\System\JAVA (create it if neccesseray) and try again. Now, after a crash, switch to a window
named "STDOUT". Check this window for any error messages and mail the information to me.
Don't give up too early! There are rumors that some people are actually using SmtpAuth successfully. ;-)
Marcus
http://www.mvcsys.de
Date: 9 May 2005 06:23:06 +0000
From: Marcus von Cube <address truncated>
Subject: Re: 5MX Pro Operating System
Patrick,
> I purchased a 5MX Pro from Clove...
> Included with it is an operating system disk...
> Under what circumstances might I need to use this OS disk, and how would I go about it?
The PRO works a little like the netBook: the ROM isn't actually a physical ROM but a protected part of RAM. A boot loader in ROM reads the actual operating system (EPOC R5) from the root of a CF card
or via the PsiWin link from the PC if it cannot detect a valid image in the protected memory area. This occurs after a complete powerfail or a hard reset. A good place to keep the (uncompressed!) image
file is the root directory of your main CF card, or an old (16 MB) CF, kept only for this purpose.
Marcus
http://www.mvcsys.de
Date: 9 May 2005 11:16:47 +0000
From: Ealasaid and Simon <address truncated>
Subject: gmail
Has anyone here got gmail POP to work on a psion? We are trying to set it up on the netbook and it only gets as far as "connecting to mailbox". I know gmail is encrypted, we found the "advanced" tab but it even so seems not to work. Ideas?
Also if any Psioneers want a gmail invite, let me know.
Simon
Date: 9 May 2005 12:56:51 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Routeplanning on my P910
Could someone comment on what would be the best option to use the P910 (UIQ) as a Route planner ? I would need software as well as a GPS connection. Can one connect these phones to a Garmin eTrex for example (as I already have this one and works well) ?
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
Date: 9 May 2005 13:11:32 +0000
From: Eir <address truncated>
Subject: Nokia 9500 keyboard
Hello all,
I tried out a Nokia 9500 dummy in a mobile phone store yesterday. (They don't keep actual phones in stock). I was very disappointed with the keyboard on the
dummy. It was quite stiff and certainly more difficult to use than I remember the 3a used to be.
Does anyone know if the keyboard on the dummy is the same as on the real phone?
Many thanks,
Martin O'Neill
Date: 9 May 2005 13:33:48 +0000
From: Phil Aypee <address truncated>
Subject: Copy Anywhere
Hi Folks,
Alan (Tracey), I haven't used the Copy Anywhere facility but I don't really understand what you want to do. Using the 3a emulator connected to the 3mx, the 3mx can open and use such files as it recognises in native format or any text files. It can copy from them into the clipboard as normal.
It can do the same if PsiWin is set to allow the 3mx to see PC files as I just tried it with my 3c (the 3mx is basically the same but faster). You can't do this with machines later than SIBO as they can't see PC files which may be the reason for Copy Anywhere.
Happy days,
Phil.
"How infinite is the debt owed to metaphors
by politicians who want to speak strongly
but are not sure what they are going to say."
http://www.philaypee.co.uk/index.html
Date: 9 May 2005 16:46:09 +0000
From: Dave.Weston <address truncated>
Subject: Problems connecting a Sony Ericsson F500i phone to my Revo
Problems connecting a Sony Ericsson F500i phone to my Revo
Can anybody help? I have just bought a new mobile phone and had hoped to be able to use it to connect to the net to receive emails via my Revo. Whenever I try, I get the message "No response from modem, ensure modem is connected and switched on". I am able to swap Contacts between the phone and the Revo with no problem, and have backed up my SIM, and the Revo does work with a friends Nokia phone.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. I tried the Ericsson helpline but they were no help at all.
Thanks
Dave Weston
Date: 9 May 2005 22:32:14 +0000
From: U Hornstein <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Comment
Reference is made to the mail in the The Digest V1 # 739 : Cyril Catt <address truncated> wrote on 1 May 2005 14:22:19 (> ):
> Of course, Rolf, colour screens ARE more pleasant than
> B&W.
...
> I was simply noting that for MY purposes I could
> accept a monochrome screen if it gave me back the
> battery life of, say, a 3a, and wondering whether I'm
> Robinson Crusoe on this or whether a few others might
> agree with me.
Cyril,
you are not alone. I would not want to go back to a 3a, but I am sticking to a MC218=5mx quite deliberately. I have still my first model (after a 3c and 5 classic) which still works well despite it's heavy use, and I have 2 spare ones. That should keep me going for quite a while (knock on wood).
Some reasons for sticking: color is not all; I know this machine quite well - many hours went into reading digests, trying software and optimizing parameters, writing SW and Macros etc - I have on NO machine a similar expertise; if there should enter a machine into the market which would be "better" in all aspects I'd change happily. but I don't think such a machine will appear soon on the market, if at all. The 218 does (almost) everything I want it to do with a decent battery life - why should I change?
It may well be that I'll be a "Robinson" when my first 2 MC218 stopped working, but maybe we both and a few others share Psion-Island then?
--
With greetings from Germany
Ulrich Hornstein
For spam protection: Please NEVER type my mail address into a www page ('send to a friend' or similar)!
Sent by MC218 (EPOC palmtop)
Date: 9 May 2005 23:30:14 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting <address truncated>
Subject: Re: The Digest V1 # 736 (6)
Dear Phil,
<< Rolf (Brunsting), why is it contradictory for me to say that someone can do as they will as long as they don't harm others? >>
Because self-contradictory fits the way you're approaching the subject. What it boils down to is that you say there are no restrictions while you add one restriction after another. Like saying that freeware registration isn't wrong while you say two sentences later that it's illegal.
<< ... the UK law I referred to may be encompassed in that EC directive but it predates the EC itself by a great many years; most countries
have such a law, even those not in the EC >>
That EC law stands above, and thereby overrules, national law of the EC member states was established in 1964. When Britain joined the EC in 1972 it accepted this. What's more, the UK needed to adapt some of its laws so that they were in accordance with EC law before it could join the EC. Irrespective of the age of the UK laws in question. Each and every EC law passed since 1972 is now part of UK law, including EC Directives. Procedure is that the EC countries are given time to incorporate an EC Directive. And that the Directive comes into force after this period. Meaning that those EC countries who haven't incorporated the Directive by that time are still bound by it.
Consumers in the UK can therefore refer to clauses in the EC Consumer Protection Directive when the UK parliament has yet to incorporate the directive in its consumer protection legislation. Note that I've
already made it abundantly clear that the Consumer Protection Directive doesn't apply outside the EC. It does apply, however, when somebody outside the EC supplies goods to to one of the EC member countries.
<< Rolf (Brunsting), when you said "That there are local, national or regional variations doesn't necessarily mean there are no universal moral values" you were right - but it *implies* a lack of universality. Sure, you can treat "the UN Declaration as a yardstick" but others don't. Are they wrong? Is the UN Declaration the only yardstick that anyone should use? >>
International law says that nations are bound by the clauses and provisions in the international treaties they've signed. The UN Declaration Of Human Rights is one of such treaties. That there are nations which disregard the Declaration isn't because it's citizens don't embrace what's mentioned in it. That's due to power politics. To people who want to keep their political and/or economical and/or social position, whatever it takes. Trouble is, that the UN is a lopsided institution in that it hasn't been given the powers to enforce the Declaration Of Human Rights, to enforce Security Council Resolutions, etc. The UN can therefore urge nations to adhere to the Declaration Of Human Rights and to use diplomatic pressure. But it can't rattle its sabres, let alone use them, because the UN doesn't even have a fruit knife.
<< To reiterate, I think that the rules of copyright will have to be amended in the case of software - laws will have to be altered and
added to. The morality concerned will have to be considered by those responsible and their advisors - the moral responsibility of software writers will have to be addressed >>
What you still refuse to address are your responsibilities as a software user. One of them is that you respect respect and observe the rights of the software author as described in copyright law. Ken Emmanuel has the right to decide what happens with his Recycle Bin
Macro for as long as it's covered by copyright. Meaning that Ken *can* decide to remove the functional limitations that are linked to its registration scheme but that he's *not* obliged to do so. As the right to decide by the creator of the intellectual work is fundamental to copyright. Something that's not subject to opinion but a plain fact.
Trouble is that you're dragging this into the sphere of morality and moral judgement. That you use the law of Nazi Germany and Vorster's South Africa in order to make the relation between morality and the law so relativistic that copyright is undermined. Without even having the courtesy to look at the reasons why, moral or otherwise, the right to decide has been granted to the creator of the intellectual work. Which makes the question of morality subject to whether you're able to lay your hands on a piece of software on your terms.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Beilen - Netherlands
Date: 9 May 2005 23:30:26 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Evolution
Dear Itamar,
<< First of all, talking about the Big Bang theory also in scientific terms is extremely difficult as clearly the physical laws by which our universe is measured were non-existant during that same Big Bang and as such cannot be measured (repeated) by science, it can only measure the result of that Big Bang >>
To get one thing out of the way first - scientists don't measure physical law. They measure such things as lengths, pressures, frequencies, temperatures, etc. in order to get the confirmation that an idea - could it be that ... - is the right one (or not). A series of such ideas and confirmations can then lead to the development of a theory. The nature of the theory requires a range of additional confirmations before it becomes well established and described as a physical law.
Coming back to the Big Bang, the pioneering work of Edwin Hubble lead to the conclusion that our universe is expanding. Meaning that when you'd go back in time you'll see the universe shrinking and shrinking ... till you reach the situation in which the universe is a point (otherwise known as a singularity). I trust you remember from secondary school maths that a point has no dimensions. Now, Einstein's theory of General Relativity describes the relationship between space and time. This relationship breaks down when the universe is a point as you can no longer talk about space let alone time. In other words, physical law as we know it didn't exist when the universe was a point/singularity. Physical law came into force, so to speak, the moment the universe started to expand out of a singularity.
The question therefore wasn't how physical law triggered the Big Bang as physical law didn't exist before the Big Bang. Question was whether a theory for a universe expanding out of a singularity could be devised on the basis of what we knew of physical law at that time. Well, Einstein's General Relativity allowed for it, for example. Needless to say that a large number of questions needed to be answered before scientists could start to talk about the Big Bang theory rather than the Big Bang idea. And the idea wasn't readily accepted as a genuine possibility. The British astronomer Fred Hoyle considered it to be so preposterous that he talked about the silly notion that the universe was started by some kind of giant fireworks going off in a big bang. The irony is that a strong opponent gave the Big Bang theory its name.
Which leads us back to measurements and one of the things a genuine theory does - to trigger "OK ... But ..." questions. One such question was asked by George Gamov in the early 1930's. On the basis that the Big Bang theory is true he calculated that there should be a remnant of the Big Bang in the form of a radiation in the range of 3 to 6 Kelvin. One of the curiosities of the history of science is that nobody did anything with Gamov's prediction. Others came to similar conclusions but nobody did anything with them either. Until Penzias and Wilson started to convert an early experimental telecoms microwave receiver for radio astronomy and detected a strange hiss which appeared to come from all directions. Thinking that it was due to contamination of the antenna (pigeon shit) the whole system was cleaned and made spotless ... and the hiss was still there. Penzias and Wilson were awarded the Nobel Prize for physics by detecting the Cosmic Background Radiation that was predicted by Gamov.
<< As to Chimpanzees and Bobobos being self-conscious, there is still a huge gap between any state of self-conscious these animals might have and the development of the human mind and social structure (for good or for worse) over the last 5 to 6,000 years or so, clearly a very small minute part of the total existence of the world. I think experiments amongst the animals has proven that, as much self-conscious as they might have, it is still an instict as opposed to human beings having intelligence >>
Please note that we, humans, aren't born self-concious. It's something we develop at a later stage. Digest members with young babies are able to demonstrate this by putting a sticker, or making a paint mark, on
the forehead of their child and placing the child in front of a mirror. A 6 months old child won't notice the sticker/mark but will notice the image in the mirror and will reach out to it. A child that's 12 months old will show the same behaviour. It's when the child is about 18
months old that (s)he'll notice the sticker/mark and will move his/her hands towards it. In other words, the child (a) recognizes that what (s)he sees in the mirror is an image of himself/herself and (b) that there's something strange about it - the sticker/mark.
This illustrates that being self-concious, or self-aware, is much more than an instinct. It requires a certain level of intelligence to work out that the image in a mirror or a pond isn't that of a chimpanzee or
a human but that it's you. We therefore share a certain intelligence with bonobos and chimpanzees who behaved the same way when subject to the mirror+mark test (as well as a number of other tests). And the work of Frans de Waal, who observed bonobos for years, shows that some of
the characteristics we thought to be typically human, like benevolence, are there in bonobos. Though in a more primitive form - we don't see bonobos collecting money for cancer research. I'm afraid that your "I think experiments amongst the animals has proven..." is rather outdated.
That there's a gap between chimpanzees and bonobos on the one hand and humans on the other doesn't pose a problem for Darwin's theory of evolution. First, because the evolutionary lines of bonobos/chimpanzees and humans split very much earlier than 6,000 years ago. What you're referring to is a human development. What's more its a sociological and cultural development, not a biological one. While Darwin's theory of evolution is a biological theory. It simply doesn't work when applied
to social and cultural evolution.
Secondly, it's perfectly possible to have two closely related species that share a common ancestor but are remarkably different in a number
of respects. After all, the evolution of a particular trait requires that the building blocks for that trait are there (if in rudimentary form) and that there's something that triggers the evolutionary
process. You can compare it with a chemical reaction. You have two components dissolved in water. Add a third component to the solution
and the chemical reaction takes place. The building blocks of the reaction are the three components (in solution) and the trigger is the moment the three are brought together. Which allows for the situation
in which you have two glass beakers. One in which the reaction has already taken place and one containing two of the components with the third still to be added to it. When two groups of the same species live separate from each other, and one group is confronted with changes in the environment in which it lives, the two groups are subject to different evolutionary pressures. The changes within the environment of the one group can be the trigger for the development of a particular trait. While that trait doesn't emerge in the other group when its environment doesn't change in the same way. The evolutionary changes
can be such that when the two groups would meet they'd see each other as aliens. Even though they could mate with each other and produce offspring they no longer do so. In other words, the difference in evolutionary pressures has lead to the development of two separate species.
We share 98% of our genetic code with chimpanzees and bonobos and are therefore very closely related. Within the 2% are the seeds for our bigger brains and higher intelligence. However, we do share a certain level of intelligence with chimpanzees and bonobos. While chimpanzees and bonobos also have culture as it has been observed that separate groups have developed different social rules. That one group uses a stick as a tool for a particular purpose while the other group doesn't do so. So that here's confusion when these two groups meet as members
of the other group don't quite behave as expected. And the use of a stick as a tool is picked up by the group that doesn't use it by observing members of the other group using the stick. Well, one of the basic aspects of culture is that you have the ability to share information between fellow members of your group as well as with your descendants. Learning by imitation - using a stick like members of the other group do - is a very simple form of information sharing. We're therefore only a few steps ahead of chimpanzees and bonobos. But these steps were sufficient to create a self-accelerating cultural development. The more we came to know the more we were able to do and the more we learned ... etc.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Beilen - Netherlands
Date: 9 May 2005 12:56:51 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Engineering level of the 9500, Comment, Num Lock off ?, 5MX Pro Operating System
Answer to: Thomas F. van der Zijden
Re.: Engineering level of the 9500 - While I appreciate what you are lacking in the 9500 does not mean that therefore the 9500 is a "toy" instead of a "tool". This is true for you, but for example I am a trader in metals and photographer. I need a good email program, a good contacts database, a financial program, databases and spreadsheets to store a variety of data. These are my reuirements so for me the 9500 can be a "tool" and not a "toy". Can we expect all software writers to take all the various trades and professions into account ? Could it be that the engineers decided that the screen of the 9500 is too small for their requirements, which was not the case with the netbook ?
Answer to: Cyril Catt
Re.: Comment - I for one, having used the S7 and mB over the last years, would not want to return to a B&W screen, even if it would mean longer life between battery charges.
Answer to: Bob & Loris Hancock
Re.: Num Lock off ? - Press together Shift-Menu
Answer to: Patrick Warner
Re.: 5MX Pro Operating System - While the old 5MX had the Os in ROM, the current version built by Clove is based on the original German only 5MX Pro which has (had) the Os in RAM. If you do a hard reset the OS is gone and you will have to reinstall it, needing the disk. Keep it in a safe place !
The OS comes in a file called OS.IMG. The size is abt. 13.3Mb nad you might want to install it on the CF disk you have in the 5MX so if you need a hard reset while out and about you could still re-install the OS. Your data would however be lost unless you have these backed-up on the CF as well (advisable with this machine !).
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
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