The Digest Wed, 18 May 2005 Volume02 : Number 744
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- RE: The Digest V1 # 743
- Off Topic Topics!!
- CF Partitions
- Copyright alternatives?
- Re: A 9500 question
- A 9500 question
- Firmware and Application Multitasking
- Evolution,
- Help urgent: File deleted on Nokia9500
- History of PDAs
- Crippled Multitasking on UIQ no more!
Date: 16 May 2005 03:26:36 +0000
From: SA <address truncated>
Subject: RE: The Digest V1 # 743
We seem to have lost the plot:
Come on guys, enough of this babble about copyrights and how the big bangformed. Can we get back to what this digest is supposed to be about;epoc/Psion.
Thanks
Brendan
Date: 16 May 2005 08:48:17 +0000
From: Gary Jenkinson <address truncated>
Subject: Off Topic Topics!!
Hey Guys,
If you do feel the need to be contemplative and discuss all manner of esoteric matters like the meaning of life, evolution and other such weighty subjects, could I ask that you do it between yourselves, and more importantly, off Digest please?
I, for one, subscribe to the Digest to participate and learn about handheld ITC matters and the above subjects don't fall into that category, as far as I'm concerned.
This is really detracting away from my enjoyment of the Digest because the content of last one (# 743) for example was mostly filled with non-ITC subject matter.
Thank you,
Gary Jenkinson
Date: 16 May 2005 09:29:57 +0000
From: Phil Aypee <address truncated>
Subject: CF Partitions
Hi Folks,
Victor (Kviat), you may be perfectly right
But it was not my experience of RPM that informed my post, it was the program’s “readme” and the included promise of a more capable version soon.
Incidentally, I use your NetUtils which I find invaluable. Thank you.
Happy days,
Phil.
"All original ideas are dangerous
to the existing order of things."
http://www.philaypee.co.uk/index.html
Date: 16 May 2005 09:29:58 +0000
From: Phil Aypee <address truncated>
Subject: Copyright alternatives?
Hi Folks,
Rolf (Brunsting), I have not spelt out any alternative because, unlike you, I am aware of my ignorance in this area. I am not aware that this means that I should accept the *status quo*. And I agree with neither of your alternatives; neither eternal copyright nor no copyright appeal to me.
I think one of the reasons copyright runs out is to free writers to quote *usefully* without penalty. In software terms this might well imply that copyright should cease when the software becomes obsolete. This would neither be never nor immediately nor in 70 years nor even in 10 years - apparently the only alternatives you think possible.
Further I wholeheartedly disagree that the true moral question is whether to grant copyright or not. It is just one question among many. The rules of copyright may be simple but each rule can be questioned. Is it moral for me to quote as long as it’s for me alone? Is it moral for me to quote to you? If it is, how many people can I morally quote to? Should morality must inform the decision as to how long copyright subsists for? Are the current copyright rules the right ones in moral terms?
These are all valid questions.
You may well be right in that software copyright only persists for 10 years (absolute), that I don’t know. How long does the most popular consumer OS last? 10 years - no. 5 years - no. 3 years - no. 2 years - maybe. But even 10 minutes can be a long time!
Happy days,
Phil.
"If all the politicians were laid end to end,
they wouldn't reach any conclusion."
http://www.philaypee.co.uk/index.html
Date: 16 May 2005 10:50:53 +0000
From: Lord Kimberley <address truncated>
Subject: Re: A 9500 question
In answer to:
> The Digest V1 # 743 (via bigfoot)
> Date: 14 May 2005 09:49:47 +0000
> From: Charles Davies <address truncated>
> Subject: A 9500 question
>
> On my 5mx Contact a search will find any text in any field including > notes. Does the 9500 allow the same or does one have to install an extra > program ? With a migration in view bought an iPaq 5550 earlier this year > but based on Microsoft Outlook Contacts this type of search does not seem > to be possible so I may have to look at the 9500. Connections between
> the iPaq and P800 phone are not too happy.
> Regards
> Charles Davies
Yes - you have to turn on advanced search Menu ->Tools->Settings->advanced search
This has a numbe of fields you can set to Yes. However searching is slower, because they are not optimised (I assume indexed). I would suggest using only when needed.
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Yours John.
Tel: +44 1763 289 732 e-mail: mailto<address truncated>/a>
Date: 16 May 2005 11:29:19 +0000
From: Simon Jeffree <address truncated>
Subject: A 9500 question
Reply to: Charles Davies
Subject: A 9500 question
With the 'Contacts' program on the 9500, the only way to search is by just starting to type. The program searches dynamically as you type (but because of the time taken to perform the search, it feels more like 'after' you finish typing). In the 'Search' tab of 'Settings' you can select any of the following fields with tickboxes:
Last name
First name
Company
However, there is a further set of tickboxes in the 'Advanced' tab, which allows any of the other fields to be selected for searches. As far as I can tell, this covers ALL fields, including the 'Notes' field. However, If any of these are selected, you are given the following warning:
"The contact search is not optimised for these fields & so the search will take longer"
& this does indeed seem to be the case; On my contacts database, which has a couple of hundred contacts, it takes about 3-4 seconds, but without any of these 'advanced' fields selected it only takes about a second. This difference is long enough to be very frustrating. I prefer the way it's done on the 5mx, with the normal search searching only the main fields & the 'Advanced' (or ALL) fields being searched with a special option. But "hey ho", at least it is possible to search all fields.
BTW, this is typical of many such minor niggles with the 9500 when compared to the Psion machines. It's got most of the required functionality but it's just not quite as ergonomically designed.
Regards
Simon Jeffree
Date: 16 May 2005 11:52:48 +0000
From: Arabbitte <address truncated>
Subject: Firmware and Application Multitasking
Subject: P910i software update
Itamar said:
>I checked the Sony Ericsson website and it says that I should update my software from version R1A30 > to version R4A01. As said before however, they don't give any details what will be updated and why. > Did anyone do the update, did it work and what was added (or deducted) to (from) the software on the phone ?
I've now done 2 firmware upgrades on my phone. To be very clear, my motives were very simple - I wanted the latest firmware. I didn't really have any particular problems that the firmware resolved and - all should be warned - updating the firmware isn't always a simple process and doesn't always work. I sure there must be some EU legislation about the morality of such a situation, but, hey, I just went ahead regardless ;-)
When I purchased my P910i from Expansys, it had R2A16 firmware and my first upgrade brought this up to R3A04. My second upgrade brough me to R4A10. A firmware upgrade is divided up into 4 sections: phone, Bluetooth, Organiser and CDA. To find out the specifics for your P910i, from the main screen, select EDIT -> System Information. The firmware details are listed on the next 3 screens. I have listed the 3 different states of my firmware below:
Original: 2nd: 3rd (& current)
Phone: CXC162042 R4A006 CXC162042 R4B002 CXC162042 R4D006
Bluetooth: CXC162028/1 R2C CXC162028/1 R2F CXC162028/1 R2F
Organiser: CXC162041 R2A17 CXC162041 R3A04 CXC162041 R4A10
CDA: CDA162005/3 R2A16 CDA162005/3 R3A04 CDA162005/3 R4A10
To find out the latest version of your P910i firmware, go to this place: http://uiqzone.org/software/firmware_p910.php. You will see that there are different "flavours" of P910i. The "flavours" listed represent the CDA (see above) for your phone. Note that those who brand P910i phones do not always bring out updates at the same time! Follow the link in the above site to go to the Sony Ericcson site where the actual upgrade can be done.
Coming back to your question, Itamar, the upgrades I have done have incorporated the following Maintenance Releases. I have copied below the stated improvements each of these has brought (there are no doubt others that SE will not admit to ...):
Maintenance Release 1 (MR1)
Quality improvement regarding document viewers/Editors
General stability improvements
Pre-installed link to application shop added
Bluetooth stability improved
Added support for RIM BBC clients
MMS, colours and text selection doesn't always work, fixed
Maintenance Release 2 (MR2)
JAVA quality improvements
Quality improvements regarding document viewers
Several fixes regarding the browser
Change behaviour in picture application
Problem with slow synchronisation, fixed
Release of SEM Desktop
Updated network/operator name list
P910i Maintenance Release 3 (MR3)
- QuickOffice in the device memory
- China support for pdf viewer
- New features for BlackBerry Connect support
- Quality improvements for Brazilian Portuguese
- SonyEricsson Desktop improved
I will finish off my answer here with some "tips for firmware upgraders" that I have learnt myself and/or gleaned from various UIQ forums, etc. It is not necessary to do all these, but it does make things easier for the upgrade script:
1) Install the latest java client on your PC before starting. Get this from www.java.com
2) The latest firmware has Powerpoint included in ROM. If you have this installed already in RAM (you may have got it from the CD that came with the phone or installed from the SE website) remove it - BEFORE you do your backup
3) Take the opportunity to remove any unwanted apps or files. The restore process is very slow and some apps take a long time to copy back - anything with lots of files such as Avant Go, mail, etc. The less you have, the faster everything will be.
4) Do a full backup (I mean it!)
5) Remove the Memory stick
6) Using the hidden service menu, format your internal memory*
7) Use Microsoft IE when connected to the Sony Ericisson website. Other browsers do work, but this one always works
8) Disable Firewalls if possible
9) Close all tasks on your PC before doing the upgrade - IE should be the only thing running.
10) Go to the SE site & do the ugrade (do what you are told!)
11) Replace the Memory Stick & do a restore
* Diagnostic / Service menus. To access these, close the flip, have no - flip closed - apps running and have the keylock off. Then:
Rotate the jogwheel clockwise (up) one click and press *
Rotate the jogwheel anticlockwise (down)
Rotate the jogwheel anticlockwise (down) one click and press *
Rotate the jogwheel anticlockwise (down) one click and press *
Select option 3 to format the internal disk.
N.B. This scrubs EVERYTHING on your internal disk. This means all applications, all contacts, all agenda entries, all data: EVERYTHING. You have been warned.
Subject: Crippled Application Multitasking on UIQ
I suffered at the hands of the UIQ-dictated crippled application multitasking on my P910i again last night. I was emailing some quotations and copied some text from a document into the body of an email. I decided that I would summarise some of the figures in the quote by multiplying a particular number by 4. So I copied the large number and then switched to the calculator program and pasted it. I multiplied it by 4 and copied the result. I then switched back to the mail program only to find that not only had my email disappeared, but I wasn't even back in the right mailbox! I was in the main messages screen, so I reselected my mailbox, then selected drafts and eventually found my mail. I opened this up again and pasted - and it didn't work!!! I mustn't have copied the number correctly from the calculator. So off I went again - albeit with steam coming out my ears this time!
Now I know people like our good friend Rolf will say that in fact this is not a problem at all and that if I was an engineer (or possibly somebody with a similar level of intelligence) I would not find this an issue. Well, let me clear: I do! UIQ have still not responded to my - many times resent - email on this very matter. I can't find any technical documentation on UIQ 3 (despite the fact that it was launched months ago) to indicate if this behaviour will continue. Hopefully not.
All the best from Dublin, Ireland
Alan Rabbitte
Date: 16 May 2005 15:42:48 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Evolution,
Answer to: Rolf Brunsting
Re.: Evolution - I am fully aware that you cannot compare science with religion and that different religions have different explanations for the beginning of the World, life and human life. I am trying hard to keep religion ourt of this discussion as it is a very subjective matter for each and every one of us, whether you are religious or not. What I am trying to say is that science should stay science and publish facts as facts and theories as theories. The problem is that many people see scientific theories as facts while in fact these are based not on scientific measurements but on missing parts being interpreted by scientists or on unmeasurable details also interpreted. And once scientists start to interpret, they do so with the same differences in background, religion etc. as the general public. Science can only start from the point of conception of the Universe, but still there must have been something before the big bang that gave the energy required for it to happen, in your example the "egg and the seed". As to the evolution, there are large holes in the theory of evolution which are being explained as "one day we will find the evidence". However, on the other side there are also new discoveries that go against the theory of evolution, and the question is whether the theory is valid without the full proofs required in general for more narrow scientific theories.
Unfortunately I don't have the facts available like you to support my opinion, but it is not based on religion. For me it is clear that the human being is in a league of it's own as to intelligence and abillity. And I wonder ho come that no other group of animals has made a similar improvement in their intelligence and abillity. Even if some animals have a form of self-conscious, they clearly have not made the stap from 2 to 4 to 8 to 16 ... etc. And if this human intelligence and abillity is due only to evolution, I find it strange that this happened to only human beings and not any other animal group.
You wrote to Chris "Creationists don't need all this as any scientific theory that contradicts scripture - whether it's the Bible, Torah, Koran or
whatever - is wrong anyway. They happily use scientific theory in any way they see fit". I think this is an over simplistic view. As you wrote before yourself science and religion exist in different realms and accordingly cannot be compared. In my view (and may others) the Blible Story is _not_ a scientific report of the Creation of the World and therefore can co-exist with scientific theories. However, that would be a separate discussion again which i don't want to start in this digest.
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
Date: 16 May 2005 16:24:25 +0000
From: Rolf Vonau <address truncated>
Subject: Help urgent: File deleted on Nokia9500
Hi all,
by misstake I deleted an important file. Is there any way to recall it directly at the Nokia9500 without PC? May be a program for patching the FAT already exists?
Please help!
To short time, pls. reply by PM.
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BR
Rolf
Date: 16 May 2005 20:05:04 +0000
From: Steve Hodgson <address truncated>
Subject: History of PDAs
Thanks to the Gadgeteer website I was reading a history of PDAs <http://www.snarc.net/pda/pda-treatise.htm> tonight and thought it was worthy of a mention here. The site did not fit onto my 1024 X 768 PBook as text did not wrap well so it may not (ironically) be PDA-friendy.
It was interesting that the author asserts that "anything that requires two hands to reasonably use, isn't a PDA." In my experience all PDAs (bar the Invair Filoewalker I guess) require at least one hand to hold the thing and the other to drive. By the author's criteria the classic Psion 3 series would be even less of a PDA as it required two hands to hold and two thumbs to type.
It was great to see the Sharp Pocket Computer again; I aspired to own one of these back in the 80's. The whole thing is a bit light on Psion history for my taste and rather downplays the Psion contribution with nothing of any note on the unique Psion 'laptops' or indeed on the Series 5 family.
Interesting nonetheless.
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Regards,
Steve Hodgson mailto<address truncated>/a>
Date: 17 May 2005 22:13:29 +0000
From: Arabbitte <address truncated>
Subject: Crippled Multitasking on UIQ no more!
Regular digesters will know that I have been asking UIQ (the organisation responsible for the UI on Symbian) about the crippled application multitasking on my P910i for a number of months - and being ignored. I got tired of this and decided to directly email UIQ's CEO - Johan Sandberg - earlier this week. 2 days after that email (but 5 months after my first), I got the following response:
I'm happy to tell you that the behavior you are describing has changed in UIQ 3.0. In UIQ 3.0 an application keeps the state the user left it in and does not automatically return to the
base view.
Now we just have to wait for a device that will run UIQ 3. Current best estimates are about 4 months. Wonder if SE will have a FW upgrade for UIQ 3 on my P910? ...
All the best from Dublin, Ireland
Alan RabbitteYou've Been Reading The Digest
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